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Blacklist Dilemma

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I want to blacklist pony, I'm not one of those shitposters that say get rid of pony, I want to take the mature route and blacklist things I don't want to see.

The problem is, it's become such a huge fad that you can't take a step outside of google without seeing 1000 pictures of it, and little cameos of the characters showing up.

I am all ready to blacklist things I don't want to see, but if I were to blacklist pony, I wouldn't see one of my to date favourite pictures:

http://e621.net/post/show/152725

Since pony is literally half of the front page every day, could it be possible to get a tag to describe pictures referring specifically to the show, so as to filter out things that are strictly pony, but not to remove things just with cameos?

I know it would be a huuuuuuuuuuuge pain in the ass to maintain, but I'm sure a lot of us can agree and be very mature about not wanting to see pony, while still maintaining the freedom to choose whether or not a cameo will ruin an otherwise good picture.

Please keep discussions civil, I'm only trying to meet the pony community half way.


PhrozenFox said:
I want to blacklist pony, I'm not one of those shitposters that say get rid of pony, I want to take the mature route and blacklist things I don't want to see.

The problem is, it's become such a huge fad that you can't take a step outside of google without seeing 1000 pictures of it, and little cameos of the characters showing up.

I am all ready to blacklist things I don't want to see, but if I were to blacklist pony, I wouldn't see one of my to date favourite pictures:

http://e621.net/post/show/152725

Since pony is literally half of the front page every day, could it be possible to get a tag to describe pictures referring specifically to the show, so as to filter out things that are strictly pony, but not to remove things just with cameos?

I know it would be a huuuuuuuuuuuge pain in the ass to maintain, but I'm sure a lot of us can agree and be very mature about not wanting to see pony, while still maintaining the freedom to choose whether or not a cameo will ruin an otherwise good picture.

Please keep discussions civil, I'm only trying to meet the pony community half way.

Sorry, no can do little buddy, that would break our tagging system! You'll have to blacklist My_Little_Pony and accept all things MLP are blacklisted, or just tough it out in the trenches for those "Diamonds in the Rough."


Princess_Celestia said:
Sorry, no can do little buddy, that would break our tagging system! You'll have to blacklist My_Little_Pony and accept all things MLP are blacklisted, or just tough it out in the trenches for those "Diamonds in the Rough."

It's like you're not even trying though, and coming from a ponyfan I can understand, but I have a total mental block for ponystuff.

When I see it I just remember all the shitposting on 4chan and the general smug attitude I see from ponyfans elsewhere, it really bothers my experience.

Absolutely no way you can enforce a rule where series name can only be posted if the picture relates directly to the series? Like if it was set in equestria, or there was character relation, I can take a cameo or two but the thing as a whole just bothers me.

I'm really trying not to be ungrateful, I've said some shit but I like this site and this dilemma is really bothering me. I'll be free to search normally (other than the people who suck at tagging, of course), but I'll know deep in that 300th palcomix post, I'm missing a real gem because somebody photoshopped a 15x15 rainbow dash into their signature.


Download the picture into your computer. That way it stays with you and you can blacklist MLP.


Brightwater said:
Download the picture into your computer. That way it stays with you and you can blacklist MLP.

Please try to comprehend the entire post before you respond, I am making an observation that in the future there may be more posts like this that I would be missing out on.


I did read your post, i was just trying to help.


Brightwater said:
I did read your post, i was just trying to help.

Thank you for your consideration, but it came off pretty condescending, I'm very capable of saving pictures to my $900 computer I assembled myself.


Are you a programmer? Then you could try this:
- keep mlp in your blacklist
- write a script that goes through all posts in your blacklist, and checks if they're on http://twentypercentcooler.net/

If the script finds a blacklisted post on 20pc, then it's probably a genuine mlp post, and you don't want to see it.
Otherwise, any mlp content in the post is probably incidental, and the post is "safe".


Munkelzahn said:
Are you a programmer? Then you could try this:
- keep mlp in your blacklist
- write a script that goes through all posts in your blacklist, and checks if they're on http://twentypercentcooler.net/

If the script finds a blacklisted post on 20pc, then it's probably a genuine mlp post, and you don't want to see it.
Otherwise, any mlp content in the post is probably incidental, and the post is "safe".

That's a potential.

My friend hates the pony fad so god damn much he would probably do it for free "for the cause".

I'll have to see about that.

In the meantime, any other suggestions?


blacklist my_little_pony -artist_name -artist_name -series_name...

The tag negation would keep unblocked some cameos that you would have to specify.

Or you could see about having mlp posters tag with "mlp_cameo". Again, not perfect.

Or go the opposite way and try to narrow the mlp posts to only ones containing ponies or characters:

my_little_pony pony
my_little_pony spike_(mlp) -plushie

I think you're better off just not clicking mlp thumbnails, but I don't understand blacklisters anyway. Nice avatar btw


As I said in the other topic I'll start going through and adding "cameo" to posts that only have My Little Pony as a cameo, thus it's still tag what ye see but hopefully it will bring back out those gems that only have a pony playing a minimalist or "cameo" role.


Adrian_Blazevic said:
blacklist my_little_pony -artist_name -artist_name -series_name...

The tag negation would keep unblocked some cameos that you would have to specify.

Or you could see about having mlp posters tag with "mlp_cameo". Again, not perfect.

Or go the opposite way and try to narrow the mlp posts to only ones containing ponies or characters:

my_little_pony pony
my_little_pony spike_(mlp) -plushie

I think you're better off just not clicking mlp thumbnails, but I don't understand blacklisters anyway. Nice avatar btw

I think it would be more effective if
1) Blacklist my_little_pony -id:152725, or
2) Don't fight while you can join us them

I did the second (partially, I don't consider myself a brony) because I knew this pony fad will grow to a level making e6 upload function stop working that take 20% of the internet. And admins know that I had them in the blacklist

Edit: If you looked at my favs, I also have ponyflood, so thay may sound a bit contradictory


Maybe you could have your blacklist show mlp pictures that also have another animal type besides ponies?

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Raiden_Gekkou said:
Maybe you could have your blacklist show mlp pictures that also have another animal type besides ponies?

Oh god, what would that even look like?
my_little_pony -feline -canine -avian -dragon -lizard -fish -cetacean -bovine -marsupial
And so on?


Snowy said:
Oh god, what would that even look like?
my_little_pony -feline -canine -avian -dragon -lizard -fish -cetacean -bovine -marsupial
And so on?

It looks ugly, but it'd be a start.


I will never understand blacklisting. Just saying.


Blaziken said:
I will never understand blacklisting. Just saying.

You don't understand people wanting to avoid having to see a subject matter they don't want to see? Blacklisting MLP makes it easier to look for things I want to actually see.


Rainbow_Crash said:
As I said in the other topic I'll start going through and adding "cameo" to posts that only have My Little Pony as a cameo, thus it's still tag what ye see but hopefully it will bring back out those gems that only have a pony playing a minimalist or "cameo" role.

This is exactly what I was going to suggest
The cameo tag only has a handful of posts

@PhrozenFox (& everyone else in this situation), will adding

my_little_pony -cameo

to your blacklist solve that problem?


The conversation is surprisingly civil, thank you!

Adrian_Blazevic said:

I think you're better off just not clicking mlp thumbnails, but I don't understand blacklisters anyway. Nice avatar btw

Ideas are good, so far I've been going the "not clicking MLP thumbnails" rule, but there's the time I get excited by seeing 5 flashes and they're all MLP. It was hard enough to find good flashes to begin with, aye carumba.

Rainbow_Crash said:
As I said in the other topic I'll start going through and adding "cameo" to posts that only have My Little Pony as a cameo, thus it's still tag what ye see but hopefully it will bring back out those gems that only have a pony playing a minimalist or "cameo" role.

Thank you for the help! I personally don't have the stomach to go through every pic with MLP in it, haha.

Snowy said:
Oh god, what would that even look like?
my_little_pony -feline -canine -avian -dragon -lizard -fish -cetacean -bovine -marsupial
And so on?

Raiden_Gekkou said:
It looks ugly, but it'd be a start.

I'm trying to avoid having to do that much work, plus this would help a lot of people like me.

Blaziken said:
I will never understand blacklisting. Just saying.

While I understand the pony fad, I will never understand how people put up with it.

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Thanks for the help guys, and please don't be so hard on people when it comes to the blacklist, it's not exactly the concrete solution we make it out to be. :3


titaniachkt said:
This is exactly what I was going to suggest
The cameo tag only has a handful of posts

@PhrozenFox (& everyone else in this situation), will adding

my_little_pony -cameo

to your blacklist solve that problem?

Though it's un-heard of, adding MLP_(cameo) might be necessary in such a situation, removing "cameo" as a tag entirely would lose those pictures with cameo, I think if we have such a huge fad hit us like Pony, we need to make minor habit changes to ensure the pleasure (and reduction of shitposting) of the users who aren't quite as keen on accepting it.

Nice avatar btw

It's more/less that I'm seeing if somebody will tell me it's inappropriate, when the picture is allowed on the site, heh.


PhrozenFox said:
removing "cameo" as a tag entirely would lose those pictures with cameo,

Not sure if I understand what you mean by that, adding -cameo to same line with mlp allows you to see:

things just with cameos

-
As for the cameo_(mlp) tag, I think it sounds like a good idea, since the mlp cameos are rather sizeable

You'd have to ask one of the Staff to make it official


PhrozenFox said:
Ideas are good, so far I've been going the "not clicking MLP thumbnails" rule, but there's the time I get excited by seeing 5 flashes and they're all MLP. It was hard enough to find good flashes to begin with, aye carumba.

FYI for flashes, if you hover your mouse over the thumbnail/link to the flash without clicking it will pop up a list of all the tags for that flash, as well as it's rating(Safe, Questionable, or Explicit) I use this method to avoid non-porn flashes and you ought to be able to do the same with MLP material fairly easily.


titaniachkt said:
As for the cameo_(mlp) tag, I think it sounds like a good idea, since the mlp cameos are rather sizeable

You'd have to ask one of the Staff to make it official

I have no problem with this, though I do see a bit of potential for misuse. But hey, if you guys think you can make it work, power to ya.


Hammie said:
FYI for flashes, if you hover your mouse over the thumbnail/link to the flash without clicking it will pop up a list of all the tags for that flash, as well as it's rating(Safe, Questionable, or Explicit) I use this method to avoid non-porn flashes and you ought to be able to do the same with MLP material fairly easily.

Yeah I do that, but when I'm tired I get excited, haha.

titaniachkt said:
Not sure if I understand what you mean by that, adding -cameo to same line with mlp allows you to see:
-
As for the cameo_(mlp) tag, I think it sounds like a good idea, since the mlp cameos are rather sizeable

You'd have to ask one of the Staff to make it official

They're all pony now though!

Aaaaaagh


PhrozenFox said:
Though it's un-heard of, adding MLP_(cameo) might be necessary in such a situation, removing "cameo" as a tag entirely would lose those pictures with cameo, I think if we have such a huge fad hit us like Pony, we need to make minor habit changes to ensure the pleasure (and reduction of shitposting) of the users who aren't quite as keen on accepting it.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Since you have "-cameo", cameo will not be blacklisted regardless of whether or not it's tagged with "my_little_pony"

As for an "MLP_(cameo)" tag, I honestly don't think it's necessary when "cameo" itself will work.


Rainbow_Crash said:
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Since you have "-cameo", cameo will not be blacklisted regardless of whether or not it's tagged with "my_little_pony"

As for an "MLP_(cameo)" tag, I honestly don't think it's necessary when "cameo" itself will work.

Oh I get it, I get it.

I haven't used the blacklist in a while, so putting my_little_pony -cameo on one line would remove every picture with my_little_pony except the ones with the cameo tag in them?


PhrozenFox said:
so putting my_little_pony -cameo on one line would remove every picture with my_little_pony except the ones with the cameo tag in them?

Yup, you got it

That's assuming all the posts with mlp cameos are tagged with cameo though

If you see any like those, adding in the cameo tag would be a good idea


titaniachkt said:
Yup, you got it

That's assuming all the posts with mlp cameos are tagged with cameo though

If you see any like those, adding in the cameo tag would be a good idea

I will, and I'm glad all the ponyfans and non-ponyfans are able to make a compromise to help both of us, less shitposting and better service overall!


Thank you for making a nice, civil discussion about an issue that I'm sure others will benefit from knowing as well. I'll go through and add that cameo tag wherever it's needed


I hope everyone knows this isn't a perfect solution though. you could have an MLP picture with cameos from other franchises. (tf2 anyone?) in some cases, how do you separate cameo from featuring? is cameo the best word?


SnowWolf said:
I hope everyone knows this isn't a perfect solution though. you could have an MLP picture with cameos from other franchises. (tf2 anyone?) in some cases, how do you separate cameo from featuring? is cameo the best word?

At the moment this is a band-aid solution. I suppose one might consider adding "my_little_pony team_fortress_2 (or really any franchise they don't want to see) -cameo" but I think we need a more solid solution