News - May 23, 2013 (1 day ago)

Hey guys, regardless of what you may have seen proposed in the News recently, our Tag What You See rule is still unchanged from this here. Remember, the only recent change was to allow using external information for tagging character NAMES only, NOT gender or virtually anything else. PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE RULE! Thanks! :)

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LtleDragon said:
We do :3, and I still wish i was flexible enough to do that :/

they have surgery for that XD

Love herms, love this, +1. Also herm+autofellatio is wonderful. :3

Jasonafex's animation's are the best, and you look like you're enjoying youself Aisha ;P

The quality seems a bit blocky, but the animation is very smooth.

Isnt that the reason people get art, and stuff of their characters? So others can pleasure them sleves over them? :3

Masteraar said:
No, you don't...

I don't, but it is possible to have surgery to allow you to bend like that more easily.

Leoofmoon said:
I don't want my rib cage removed!

the surgery usually involves taking out just 1 or 2 ribs if I remember right. I can imagine having a vertebra removed would also help.

AishaLove said:
Kinda surprised this ended up on here so fast.

Hope you perverts enjoy watching me suck myself off XD

Now why would you wanna suck yourself off, when you have so many willing canidates who would be more than willing to do it for you? :P

I edited the tags, added in some and changed "dragon" to "dracogryph" as dragon is inacurate. (I should know shi is my fursona)

AishaLove said:
I edited the tags, added in some and changed "dragon" to "dracogryph" as dragon is inacurate. (I should know shi is my fursona)

According to the rules of the site, you tag as you see. Adding the dragon tag alongside that one.

Rha'Tyzul said:
I used to be. Unfortunately it takes a lot of stretching, so it's possible to lose the mood (Lol), some good length and or a combination of dexterity. ..Right now I have a little bit of a gut so I'm a little restricted from it. 8)

"Here's a guy who used to be able to do it, but sandwiches were better!"

One of the hottest (and best looking at that) if not the hottest flash ever on e621 in my opinion <3
Also, Aisha love your work, your poems I mean. Since according to your FA, you don't do actual art. Correct me if I'm wrong (just did some peeking around your FA).

Mr.smartass said:
According to the rules of the site, you tag as you see. Adding the dragon tag alongside that one.

The tag dragon does not apply and seeing as it's my fursona I should know. I could request the submission be taken down if I really wanted.

expecting proper tags is not much. (fixed it again)

Ryushi said:
One of the hottest (and best looking at that) if not the hottest flash ever on e621 in my opinion <3
Also, Aisha love your work, your poems I mean. Since according to your FA, you don't do actual art. Correct me if I'm wrong (just did some peeking around your FA).

Thought I took down my poetry. haven't been into that in a long time.

A new autofellatio gif. <3 Has to be my favourite type of art by far.. Maybe because I can do it. c:

AishaLove said:
The tag dragon does not apply and seeing as it's my fursona I should know. I could request the submission be taken down if I really wanted.

expecting proper tags is not much. (fixed it again)

Re-added the dragon tag as per site rules of tag what you see.

(See the comments on post #227064 for a preview on what happens next.)

MaShCr said:

Re-added the dragon tag as per site rules of tag what you see.

(See the comments on post #227064 for a preview on what happens next.)

I don't see how that is reasonable, in the instance of the character's owner or the artist editing the tags, it should be obvious they know what the content of the pic is.

We had this discussion before. It's tag what you see, the artist's or character creator's opinions don't matter.

Guys I can do all the way down and I have all my ribs. Stop being so pathetically retarded.

sylamorase said:
"Here's a guy who used to be able to do it, but sandwiches were better!"

When you got someone that knows how to cook, there's very little reason to deny what's in front of you. lol.

This has happened three times in as many days now...And I always seem to be the one stumbling in on it. E621's policy is a tag what you see, not what you know; policy. The reason for this is so that users can come in and search EXACTLY what their looking for with no prior knowledge of who the character is, or what. A person looking at this image would probably be thinking sans prior knowledge of the character "Oh hey, that's a dragon", therefor, it would be tagged dragon according to our sites rules. As a compromise we will use both tags, as I doubt many know what a "Dracogryph" is, including myself who has not heard of it up until today. {Minor note; some leeway is given to "Show" characters like Renamon, Lola bunny, and other characters who have appeared in cartoons and other such things.}

Also, on an irrelevent to the above note, theirs a whole lotta creepy posts going on in this thread.

Rha'Tyzul said:
I used to be. Unfortunately it takes a lot of stretching, so it's possible to lose the mood (Lol), some good length and or a combination of dexterity. ..Right now I have a little bit of a gut so I'm a little restricted from it. 8)

Yeah I know your pain, I used to be able to suck my tip, but after growing and gaining some weight I can now barely lick it. :'(

Princess_Celestia said:
This has happened three times in as many days now...And I always seem to be the one stumbling in on it. E621's policy is a tag what you see, not what you know; policy. The reason for this is so that users can come in and search EXACTLY what their looking for with no prior knowledge of who the character is, or what. A person looking at this image would probably be thinking sans prior knowledge of the character "Oh hey, that's a dragon", therefor, it would be tagged dragon according to our sites rules. As a compromise we will use both tags, as I doubt many know what a "Dracogryph" is, including myself who has not heard of it up until today. {Minor note; some leeway is given to "Show" characters like Renamon, Lola bunny, and other characters who have appeared in cartoons and other such things.}

I understand that, but that same logic is why I removed the tag in the first place, I "saw" that there was an incorrect tag.

I am conflicted, because I don't want people thinking my fursona is what it is not, and looking at the tags on an image and seeing that shows them something false about my fursona, about me.

I also don't want to request art of my fursona be taken down, and realize that it would be a futile effort as people would likely repost.

If this were a photograph of my IRL self would I not have the right to ask the image be tagged correctly? This is how I feel about art of my fursona.

AishaLove said:
I understand that, but that same logic is why I removed the tag in the first place, I "saw" that there was an incorrect tag.

I am conflicted, because I don't want people thinking my fursona is what it is not, and looking at the tags on an image and seeing that shows them something false about my fursona, about me.

I also don't want to request art of my fursona be taken down, and realize that it would be a futile effort as people would likely repost.

If this were a photograph of my IRL self would I not have the right to ask the image be tagged correctly? This is how I feel about art of my fursona.

mmm.....how to best explain this... ok. Long story short, the way tagging here work is that an artist, oc owner, or tagger may not use "Knowledge" of the character in the tags. The tag must be looked at from the untrained eye {Again, special exclusion is given to show characters as most people tend to know who they are}.

You, of course, know what it is. Again, I'm offering a compromise here instead of outright stating the tag will be dragon, as from the untrained eye, most would likely not even know what a, what was it you called it, dracogryph? is. But to most users this looks like a dragon, to me it looks like a dragon, so by rule of thumb by our rule of "Tag what you see, not what you Know." This would get the Dragon tag.

If a photograph of your IRL self was posted here, it would likely be deleted as subjective content; a more prime example would be to point at my own personal OC {Whom has generally remained absent from this site}, and ask me "Would I want my character to be tagged appropriate to what she is", and no. I would want her tagged according to the tagging system that the rules have set in place, again, I think having both tags is a fair compromise.

...That ran on longer then I wanted it too...

AishaLove said:
I understand that, but that same logic is why I removed the tag in the first place, I "saw" that there was an incorrect tag.

I am conflicted, because I don't want people thinking my fursona is what it is not, and looking at the tags on an image and seeing that shows them something false about my fursona, about me.

I also don't want to request art of my fursona be taken down, and realize that it would be a futile effort as people would likely repost.

If this were a photograph of my IRL self would I not have the right to ask the image be tagged correctly? This is how I feel about art of my fursona.

Hey Aisha,

Your reasoning for wanting the image to be tagged "dracogryph" instead of "dragon" is completely understandable, so don't think that we're really disagreeing with you there. :)

I think what's important to keep in mind though is what users would see if they had absolutely 0 information about the character in the picture from anyone at all, including yourself. In this case, I believe nearly everyone would say that they see a dragon. No one is disagreeing with you though and saying that your character ISN'T a "dracogryph", they're just saying that, from all they can tell, it just looks like a dragon.

"Tag what you see" is important because if the vast majority of our users see a dragon in this image, then we want those who are searching for "dragon" to be able to find this image, because it's an image that they'll want to see.

As Celestia said, we don't have a problem leaving it tagged with both "dragon" and "dracogryph". It's just that our users do not seem to be able to identify any distinguishing features that would make this character NOT appear to be a dragon to them, so it's important that we leave it tagged as such.

Char said:
Hey Aisha,

Your reasoning for wanting the image to be tagged "dracogryph" instead of "dragon" is completely understandable, so don't think that we're really disagreeing with you there. :)

I think what's important to keep in mind though is what users would see if they had absolutely 0 information about the character in the picture from anyone at all, including yourself. In this case, I believe nearly everyone would say that they see a dragon. No one is disagreeing with you though and saying that your character ISN'T a "dracogryph", they're just saying that, from all they can tell, it just looks like a dragon.

"Tag what you see" is important because if the vast majority of our users see a dragon in this image, then we want those who are searching for "dragon" to be able to find this image, because it's an image that they'll want to see.

As Celestia said, we don't have a problem leaving it tagged with both "dragon" and "dracogryph". It's just that our users do not seem to be able to identify any distinguishing features that would make this character NOT appear to be a dragon to them, so it's important that we leave it tagged as such.

I'm not going to push it, and don't want to. I just wanted to clear convey my reasoning and knowing you understand helps me feel better about it.

AishaLove said:
I'm not going to push it, and don't want to. I just wanted to clear convey my reasoning and knowing you understand helps me feel better about it.

I'm glad you've reached some peace. The rules here are... ugh... but they general work. Everyone else already said basically what I wanted to say to ya, so I'll keep this shortish. I saw your sona, and thought "Dragon". As I sometimes search that tag, I would be delighted to find this. I've never heard of a... one of you, so that tag isn't HELPFUL. THAT is the base principle of tagging; so people can find you through simple tags. I feel for you, as I would hate to have my sona improperly tagged. I respect your determination and love your sexy scaly sona ^.=.^

Looked up "Dracogryph". Apparently, it is a variation of a gryphon (creature with the head, talons, and wings of an eagle and the body of a lion), only with the body of a dragon rather than a lion.

Sorry Aisha, but I don't see any eagle in your sona. I wouldn't be able to guess that you are a dracogryph in a million years. Please don't take offense to that, I'm just stating an opinion. I still think you have a sexy sona and that you have the right to be what and whoever you want.

incredible.. just gorgeous... just try to reach over with one finger in your bum, then it would be the purrfect picture.

Nice! Ive searched for ages for something like this!

ArcticDerrick said:
We do :3, and I still wish i was flexible enough to do that :/

I can :P Almost all the way >:D