I made a thing to suggest posts you may like

In category: e621 Tools and Applications

Still just an early concept right now, but I hope to develop it further.

http://zoranu.ddns.net

Unlike some of the other tools I've seen here, it doesn't ask you to rate posts before it can suggest anything. Instead you enter your username and it suggests posts based on your favorites. It's also web based, so there's nothing to download and it's platform-independent.

I'd like to hear your feedback on how well it works and any improvements I could make.

BlueDingo
Privileged
1 year ago
2013 5_fingers abs anthro athletic canine claws collarbone cute dingo front_view fur gloves_(marking) half-length_portrait holding_arm imiak inner_ear_fluff looking_at_viewer male mammal markings navel nipples nude peachez pecs pink_eyes pink_fur pink_nose portrait pose shy solo tan_fur v-cut

Rating: Safe
Score: 36
User: flux_capacitor
Date: March 02, 2013

zoranu said:
it suggests posts based on your favorites.

So I can't use it.


Let's see how this tool holds up in the face of my massive 97,402 favorites list.

Edit: it took about a minute for method 1 and suggested me 61 images (actually 60), which I will analyze below.

▼ Method 1

0 - The very first thumbnail has '0' above it and a broken thumbnail. It links to a non-existent post
post #1154794 - I don't typically fave dickgirl images so the first one is already wrong
post #1153715 - sure
post #1153011 - already favorited (zp92)
post #1153010 - already favorited
post #1151433 - a little weird but hey whatever. approved (literally)
post #1149551 - already favorited. standard ream-a-renamon
post #1147108 - dickgirl
post #1146183 - dickgirl
post #1145813 - already favorited (tsampikos gets all the favs)
post #1145677 - dickgirl
post #1144221 - lion king images weird me out but I'll add a favorite
post #1144219 - as above
post #1142166 - nice traditionally drawn
post #1132461 - good
post #1130529 - dickgirl but I'll fav it anyway
post #1126689 - more girls with dicks
post #1125653 - I'll fav the definitely not an amputee
post #1123301 - already favorited
post #1122740 - D I C
post #1120611 - already favorited
post #1117858 - K G I
post #1116819 - few herms as well in my favs. middle of a comic isn't ideal either but can be excused
post #1115512 - sure thing
post #1112879 - already favorited
post #1112683 - R R L (dickgirl/dickgirl this time)
post #1112122 - another dickgirl/dickgirl. I favorite many lygerside images and probably lycanroc
post #1111812 - already favorited
post #1111139 - sure
post #1111134 - sure (same comic as above)
post #1104571 - sure
post #1104567 - sure
post #1104562 - sure
post #1102205 - already favorited
post #1100778 - sure
post #1099417 - already favorited
post #1097727 - sure
post #1095597 - dickgirl
post #1086199 - dickgirl and vore
post #1085484 - dickgirl
post #1085215 - dickgirl (looks good though)
post #1085214 - as above
post #1084023 - sure
post #1083236 - already favorited
post #1081762 - I don't fave many videos. And it's a dickgirl
post #1080103 - sure
post #1080101 - sure
post #1079863 - 2x dickgirl
post #1077994 - dickgirl
post #1077984 - as above
post #1156969 - sure. and overlooked. Sudden jump in post id from 1077k to 1156k
post #1156962 - gaaayyyyy
post #1156949 - sure
post #1156881 - already favorited
post #1156880 - good/great. as an mlp fan character, it is less well represented in my favorites list
post #1156879 - already favorited
post #1156786 - good/great
post #1156738 - sure
post #1156710 - already favorited
post #1156700 - weird, but I'll fav and approve
post #1156689 - sure

Analysis analysis #1: I didn't ask for all these dickgirls (not a blacklist issue, I just have animated type:gif and bvats on there). post #1156880 and post #1156786 were the stand out winners, and they were both in the second group after the post ID jumped back up. Images the user has already favorited should be removed from the array. That should take a fraction of the roughly 60 seconds it took to make the list.

Now my favorites list is at 97,430. Query took around 203 seconds and returned 74 images.

▼ Method 2

(no empty thumbnail this time)
post #1157539 - sure thing
post #1157518 - sure (male/ambiguous)
post #1157473 - ok
post #1157336 - basically gaaay
post #1157295 - already favorited
post #1157283 - already favorited
post #1157216 - already favorited. added upvote since this is a higher resolution version of an old image
post #1157203 - already favorited
post #1157196 - sure. same artist as above but missed
post #1157183 - sure (flash I tend to ignore)
post #1157162 - sure
post #1157141 - ok
post #1157120 - gaayyyyyy space odyssey
post #1157113 - over 50 MB so I ignored it
post #1157017 - already favd
post #1156662 - already favd
post #1156646 - teh gay
post #1156621 - fav'd parent but forgot this one
post #1156503 - ghey
post #1156469 - already favd
post #1156452 - good (others disagree)
post #1156402 - ok (middle of a comic)
post #1156396 - ok
post #1156373 - already favd
post #1156366 - dickgrrl
post #1156333 - good. I won't fav this yet because it's the... 3rd?... redraw of the comic
post #1156243 - gay
post #1156215 - good
post #1156214 - as above
post #1156147 - gey sanic lol
post #1156125 - already fav'd.
post #1156102 - gayliens
post #1156092 - gay (added eyes_closed tag)
post #1155970 - alrady favvvvdddd
post #1155934 - good
post #1155849 - already favd
post #1155838 - gay. pretty cute though
post #1155828 - already fav'd despite it being palcomix
post #1155827 - dickgirls
post #1155815 - dickgirls
post #1155809 - gay
post #1155799 - sure. skipped marsminer lately
post #1155768 - what in the hell is that? lolfav'd.
post #1155654 - dickgirl. possible mistag.
post #1155636 - sure
post #1155553 - sure
post #1155551 - gaaaaay.. I mean male/male
post #1155539 - sure. should be pooled with post #1155553.
post #1155503 - already favd
post #1155498 - already favd
post #1155492 - d*ckg*rl but I'll fav it
post #1155483 - already favd
post #1155325 - herm
post #1155303 - m/m
post #1155266 - male on male
post #1155264 - sure
post #1155242 - big gay
post #1155240 - as above and the tattoo is in a weird place
post #1155138 - gay. but at least it's decidueye
post #1155127 - good
post #1155073 - gay
post #1155034 - good
post #1155021 - good
post #1154952 - sure
post #1154948 - sure
post #1154945 - sure
post #1154901 - sure
post #1154885 - sure
post #1154872 - sure (this streak brought to you by yogoat)
post #1154870 - dickgirl
post #1154794 - dickgirl, 1st image from Method #1
post #1154245 - ok
post #1153829 - already fav'd, but added upvote
post #1153806 - already faved

Analysis analysis #2: Many more gays this time. Found a neat artist, yogoat. Over 3 times the loading time, although there could be other explanations like higher traffic since you posted the forum thread.

Favorites list at 97,459. Query took only around 39 seconds and returned 75 images.

▼ Method 3

post #1157269 - already
post #1157216 - already (came up in method 2)
post #1157118 - already
post #1157008 - already
post #1157004 - already
post #1156570 - already
post #1156562 - ok
post #1156333 - came up in method 2
post #1156107 - sure
post #1154244 - ok
post #1153560 - already
post #1153383 - sure (comic)
post #1152886 - sure
post #1152331 - already
post #1152142 - ok (hyper)
post #1151763 - already lol'd
post #1151526 - sure
post #1151517 - already
post #1150270 - sure
post #1150139 - sure (I favorite lonbluewolf hard)
post #1150083 - sure
post #1149903 - already
post #1149831 - already
post #1149829 - already
post #1149487 - already
post #1149323 - great
post #1149295 - good (video)
post #1149128 - good (long comic)
post #1149090 - already
post #1148934 - sure (no artist tagged)
post #1148817 - ok
post #1148463 - good. forgot to favorite
post #1148418 - great. In fact, I'll ultra-fav it. That bodes well for Method #3.
post #1147712 - sure
post #1147596 - sure (comic)
post #1147433 - good
post #1147334 - good (that one comic)
post #1147210 - ok (comic)
post #1146445 - sure
post #1146390 - already had it. great pic too.
post #1146218 - already
post #1146182 - ok (comic)
post #1146063 - good (comic)
post #1146061 - as above
post #1145572 - sure
post #1145570 - as above
post #1145559 - good (comic)
post #1145180 - sure
post #1144620 - sure (very long comic)
post #1144456 - sure (end of comic)
post #1144009 - already
post #1143742 - ok
post #1143460 - Good. This is an interactive flash game with many tags on it.
post #1143389 - good
post #1142648 - already
post #1141931 - sure
post #1141774 - already/great
post #1141437 - sure
post #1141418 - sure
post #1141094 - already. added upvote
post #1140562 - sure
post #1140561 - sure
post #1140558 - sure
post #1140557 - sure
post #1140556 - already/good
post #1140555 - sure
post #1140552 - sure
post #1140550 - sure. 7 of the last 8 were eevee swaps.
post #1139937 - herm
post #1139530 - sure
post #1139506 - good
post #1139445 - sure
post #1139385 - good
post #1139021 - sure
post #1138890 - good due to the fire

Analysis analysis #3: This method did much better than the first 2 and did not spit out many intersex or m/m. I also wonder if it gave higher weight to images with higher scores.

▼ Final thoughts

Previously favorited images should be ignored. It makes sense and should not be hard to compute.

Although the blacklist can't be addressed yet, maybe never, less of the types of images users blacklist should show up just because they don't tend to favorite them. If they fave a very small number of m/m or m/f images, they shouldn't show up as much. This appeared to work as expected with the experimental mode. Rating should also play a role. I'm not sure if it does that now. If someone who usually favorites rating:safe uses the tool, it should return mostly rating:s images.

Middle of a pool (comic or sequence) is an interesting case. I don't want to suggest ignoring images from the middle of a pool, and not all pools have images that directly relate to each other (there are pokedex pools). inpool:true comic might help here. An advanced option could replace any suggested image from the middle with the first image of the pool, but only if it has the comic tag. The eevee color swaps are an interesting case. They are in a pool, and all but one of them appeared in the 75 suggestions (method 3).

Will users reuse this tool often? It seems to return images from the last 2 weeks and many from the past day, so will it be fresh results after 2 weeks? Is it expensive to search for older posts?

I think the ultimate tool could be an artist suggestion tool, possibly using a web of similarity based on tags shared by the artists' images or many users favoriting images from the same 2 artists or multiple artists in clusters of artists who are similar. There are many approaches.

After "I've found X images I think you may like." you should add "It took Y.YY seconds." That way users don't need to clock it to give you feedback on that.

Genjar
Former Staff
1 year ago
2011 annoyed antennae arthropod biped black_markings blue_eyes clothed clothing crossed_arms cute duo feral front_view green_body human insect insect_wings lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view traditional_media_(artwork) watercolor_(artwork) white_background wings

Rating: Safe
Score: 292
User: Genjar
Date: May 29, 2013

Pretty good. Didn't find many new favorites for me, but that's probably because I've already seen just about every post that's here.

Method one worked the best for me, while the third was full of misses.

Here's my least accurate matches from method 1:
post #375810 post #1082342 post #1081762 and especially post #1077192. No idea why it'd recommend that last one to me.

Clawdragons
Privileged
1 year ago
4_fingers all_fours ambiguous_gender claws dragon feral gemskull green_eyes horn lying nude open_mouth sandwing_(wof) scales scalie sharp_teeth simple_background smile solo sunny_(wof) teeth western_dragon wings wings_of_fire yellow_scales

Rating: Safe
Score: 43
User: Rigma
Date: December 19, 2017

Method 1 gave me pretty much nothing but female human on male feral animal stuff. Which, except in rare instances, I often very strongly dislike. This was not one of those rare instances - the pictures it suggested to me were by and large the sorts of things that genuinely make me unhappy to look at.

Method 2 was somewhat better, though it also returned quite a bit of material that I have blacklisted. Lots of cub art, for some reason, and then just a bunch of kind of generic furry porn which wasn't as viscerally off-putting as the stuff the first method returned, but also wasn't very interesting to me.

Method 3 was much better. Actually gave me stuff I like, and a fair amount of it - though most of it was stuff I'd seen before. Also it leaned very heavily towards solo pictures, whereas the other two leaned very heavily towards duo or group images.


Eugh, Method 1 gave me practically nothing except for stuff that I can't stand to look at. Cub, group sex, so on.

Clawdragons said:
Method 1 gave me pretty much nothing but female human on male feral animal stuff. Which, except in rare instances, I often very strongly dislike. This was not one of those rare instances - the pictures it suggested to me were by and large the sorts of things that genuinely make me unhappy to look at.

Basically this.

DelurC
Blocked
1 year ago

i don't have many in my favorites, but lets see.

1.
There were a few interesting pics.

2.
Much better.

3.
Also good.


Out of 75 pictures, only two were good, but one of them were already in my favorites.


Create an error message for users with zero favorites instead of returning this link:

https://e621.net/post/show?id=0


I skipped option 1 and 2 because people were saying 3 gives the best posts.

I was not disappointed.

O16
Member
1 year ago
2016 :d <3 abomasnow alakazam amaura ambiguous_gender animate_inanimate antennae anthro arcanine arthropod avalugg badge bastiodon beak beartic biped black_body black_eyes black_fur black_horn black_nose black_scales black_sclera blue_body blue_claws blue_eyes blue_feathers blue_fur blue_pawpads blue_scales blue_sclera bovine brown_body brown_feathers brown_fur canine claws cloud cranidos crotch_tuft digitigrade dipstick_tail directional_arrow eeveelution electricity english_text excadrill eyes_closed fangs feathered_wings feathers feline feral fire floating floatzel flower fur fur_markings gem gengar gloves_(marking) gogoat gold_scales green_body green_feathers green_fur grey_background grey_body grin group hair half-closed_eyes hand_holding hawlucha haxorus heliolisk hi_res hidden_eyes hindpaw hooves horn ice insect insect_wings jellicent kingdra kneeling leaf leavanny lillipup long_tail looking_at_another looking_at_viewer looking_down lucario lunatone luxray magneton makuhita mammal markings meowstic milotic miltank mismagius modern_vivillon monster multi_tail multicolored_body multicolored_feathers multicolored_fur multicolored_scales multicolored_tail musical_note neck_tuft nidoking nintendo no_sclera nosepass on_one_leg onix open_mouth orange_body orange_fur panpour pansage pansear pawpads paws pidgeotto piloswine pink_body pink_fur pink_nose pink_sclera plant pokéball pokémon pokémon_(species) poliwrath purple_body purple_fur purple_hair quadruped raichu red_body red_claws red_eyes red_feathers red_fur red_hooves red_nose red_sclera ribbons rodent rose roserade scales screw scyther sharp_teeth shell silver_body simple_background sitting slaking smile socks_(marking) solrock sparkle spikes spiral standing star starmie steam steelix stripes sun swanna sylveon tail_tuft talons tan_body tan_feathers tan_fur tan_scales teal_eyes teeth text toe_claws tongue torkoal tuft tusks two_tone_body two_tone_fur tyrunt video_games vileplume vivillon watchog water weezing whirlipede white_body white_eyes white_feathers white_fur white_hair white_scales wide_eyed wings yellow_beak yellow_body yellow_eyes yellow_feathers yellow_fur yellow_sclera zebstrika かんな_2日目東m02a

Rating: Safe
Score: 60
User: Rad_Dudesman
Date: February 28, 2016

Accuracy:
  • Method 1: ~ 87%
  • Method 2: ~ 59%
  • Method 3: ~ 75%

Note: accurate = aceptable (most), good (~ 40) or excellent (5, 3 favorited previously).

Obs: a thing that bothered me was the lack of posts in the following categories:

pokémon (~ 14% of my favorites).

rating:safe (~ 18% of my favorites).

-rating:safe -masturbation -sex (~ 35% of my favorites).

Genjar
Former Staff
1 year ago
2011 annoyed antennae arthropod biped black_markings blue_eyes clothed clothing crossed_arms cute duo feral front_view green_body human insect insect_wings lifting lol_comments male mammal markings moth nisimawari pellucid_hawk_moth portrait quadruped shirt shorts simple_background solo_focus spread_wings standing three-quarter_portrait three-quarter_view traditional_media_(artwork) watercolor_(artwork) white_background wings

Rating: Safe
Score: 292
User: Genjar
Date: May 29, 2013

Now that I had time to look closer at the results, here's my stats:

Method Accuracy
1 ~85%
2 ~15%
3 ~10%

There's barely any interspecies or size_difference among 2 or 3, even though those are common among my favorites. Way too many mammals, nowhere near enough scalies or avians.

DelurC
Blocked
1 year ago

Method Accuracy
1 ~10%
2 ~75%
3 ~70%

I had more like.


Using my data from earlier:

Method Images Accuracy #1 Accuracy #2 Accuracy #3 New Ultra Favorites Added
1 60 ~67% (40/60) ~43% (26/60) ~57% (26/46) 0
2 74 ~66% (49/74) ~42% (31/74) ~55% (31/56) 0
3 75 ~99% (74/75) ~68% (51/75) ~98% (51/52) +1

Accuracy #1: anything with "ok" or better gets in.
Accuracy #2: counts "already favorited" as misses.
Accuracy #3: removes "already favorited" from the total.

I guess the reason my results are so different from @Genjar is that I have 193 times more favorites and I'll favorite nearly anything with a female in it. This huge sample size and simplicity makes it very easy for Method 3 to work.

Genjar's favorites list is Earth and mine is two Saturns.


I got nothing out of all three, I guess option three was close mostly ponies which I've already looked at but there seemed to be a lot of humanized ponies and giant boobs neither of which I like.


Accuracy 1: 0% (no results)
Accuracy 2: 0% (no results)
Accuracy 3: 0% (no results)

Not sure what is going on there.. not like I'm lacking in favs.

I tried entering '8673' (user id) rather than 'savageorange' (user name), but neither returned any results other than the so-called "post #0"

I also tested in both Firefox (51.0.1) and Midori (0.5.11), in case one of my addons could have been interfering. Same results in both.


←------------------→
Hit 1: 39/75
Miss 1: 36/75
←------------------→
Hit 2: 21/75
Miss 2: 54/75
←------------------→
Hit 3: 24/75
Miss 3: 51/75
←------------------→

Raw Data (multiplied by 3 for 75) (x - hit, o - miss)
1: xxoooxoxoxooxxoxoooxxxoxx
2: oooxooxooxxooooooxooxooxo
3: ooxxooxooxooxoxooxoooooox


Typed in my username, all I got was a blank gray screen. :/

Edit: Working now.

Clawdragons
Privileged
1 year ago
4_fingers all_fours ambiguous_gender claws dragon feral gemskull green_eyes horn lying nude open_mouth sandwing_(wof) scales scalie sharp_teeth simple_background smile solo sunny_(wof) teeth western_dragon wings wings_of_fire yellow_scales

Rating: Safe
Score: 43
User: Rigma
Date: December 19, 2017

There's a new mode. I was going to do an in-depth analysis but then I got bored.

The new mode was better at picking things that I hadn't seen before that I liked, but at the same time it gave me a hell of a lot of dickgirls, which is odd because I have very many of those saved, and I find them very unappealing (the ones I do have saved are incidental).


New mode actually works for me, so that's something.

Thumbnails are broken (of course; since they reference e621 servers, only thumbnails that are already cached will show up)

Hit rate is still 0% (it suggested ~78, none of them were of particular interest. One or two got upvotes for art quality)

BlueDingo
Privileged
1 year ago
2013 5_fingers abs anthro athletic canine claws collarbone cute dingo front_view fur gloves_(marking) half-length_portrait holding_arm imiak inner_ear_fluff looking_at_viewer male mammal markings navel nipples nude peachez pecs pink_eyes pink_fur pink_nose portrait pose shy solo tan_fur v-cut

Rating: Safe
Score: 36
User: flux_capacitor
Date: March 02, 2013

I decided to do a test with post #1129063 as the only favourite.

4_toes 5_fingers absurd_res alternate_version_at_source animal_genitalia anthro balls belt brown_fur canine casual_nudity claws confident digitigrade dog eyebrows facial_scar fur green_eyes hand_on_hip headwear heater hi_res holding_object holding_weapon iztli looking_away male mammal melee_weapon mostly_nude multicolored_fur nintendo nipples nude paws penis penis_tip pose pubes runes scar sheath shield smile solo standing sword tan_balls tan_fur the_legend_of_zelda toes two_handed_sword two_tone_fur video_games weapon

Rating: Explicit
Score: 23
User: slyroon
Date: February 05, 2017
Deleted: takedown #6341: Artist requested removal

17/69. Despite the only material it had to work with being one image of a mostly_nude solo male standing while holding_weapon and looking_aside, I got many images containing multiple characters, intersex characters, characters having sex and multiple intersex characters having sex. Also, the blacklist is not being taken into account if that particular intersex image is anything to go by.

Too bad it can't check my upvotes. Then again, it wouldn't know what to look for if it could.

-------------------

Test 2: 10 similar images from the following search: ~nude ~mostly_nude solo male standing sword

Found 120 this time. Maybe it finds more if your favourites are more specialized? Again, multiple characters, intersex and sex despite none of the favourites containing those things.

Has anyone had results that didn't contain intersex characters yet?

Also, after clearing out my favourites, the count is at 4. It should be 0.

Clawdragons
Privileged
1 year ago
4_fingers all_fours ambiguous_gender claws dragon feral gemskull green_eyes horn lying nude open_mouth sandwing_(wof) scales scalie sharp_teeth simple_background smile solo sunny_(wof) teeth western_dragon wings wings_of_fire yellow_scales

Rating: Safe
Score: 43
User: Rigma
Date: December 19, 2017

I think a lot of the issues people are having stem from the same basic issue: It is treating all tags with equal weight. However, I think special consideration ought to be given to "orientation" tags.

That is, the gender tags, the form tags (anthro, feral, humanoid, etc.), the gender-on-gender, gender-on-form, form-on-form tags. They should carry a special weight.

I'm not sure exactly how the "experimental" modes work, but I think one way to do what I'm suggesting would be to always include at least one of those tags from some favorited image, and in particular, it should always take the highest-order tag possible from an image.

Which is to say, a solo picture containing a male anthro would have two "single order" possible tags - "male" and "anthro". A duo picture containing a male anthro with a female feral would (if properly tagged) have four single-order tags (male, female, anthro, feral), and three "double-order" tags (male/female, anthro_on_feral, male_on_feral). So the way the program would work would be to choose from "male" and "anthro" if examining the solo picture but if examining the duo picture, it would ignore all of the single-order tags and only choose from "male/female", "anthro_on_feral", "male_on_feral".

The point of all this would be that, first of all, there would be a heavy focus on trying to match the user's orientation... But beyond that, this would also avoid issues where, if someone has, say, a lot of female solo pictures and male/female pictures, the program wouldn't see "male" and "solo" and figure "oh hey I'll give them a bunch of solo males!" when really the obvious conclusion from that mix of favorites is that their interests are just the opposite of that - a focus on females.

This entire post of mine is completely unwarranted but I am tired as heck and my window is being replaced so I can't sleep. Banging and noise, woo! Blah.

Anyway. I did want to offer some encouragement, to balance out what might be seen as negative... I do think this is a somewhat nifty project - I've considered doing similar things in the past, so I support what you're going for here.

And despite how picky I can be when it comes to enjoying art, This did actually manage to expose me to something I'd not seen before that I liked, which honestly even people who know my interests well can struggle with. So I do want to say "keep at it".


^ What if the tags you talked about were treated as a group?

That is [male/female anthro feral duo] would be treated like a single tag, [female solo feral] would be treated like a single tag. A picture would either match all of the tags in a given group and be suggested, or not fully match any group and be rejected.

To me that seems to express what you actually want.

(although the solo/duo/group thing may be a bit fuzzy due to inadequate tagging..)


With 97,806 favorites, mode 4 took 101.8454 seconds and "found 1 images I think you may like". Which were not shown.

I am also anxious to see zoranu post in this thread again.

O16
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1 year ago
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Date: February 28, 2016

Clawdragons said:
I think a lot of the issues people are having stem from the same basic issue: It is treating all tags with equal weight. However, I think special consideration ought to be given to "orientation" tags.

That is, the gender tags, the form tags (anthro, feral, humanoid, etc.), the gender-on-gender, gender-on-form, form-on-form tags. They should carry a special weight.

Maybe that should also be valid for some other tag groups, like fetishes/"unusual" preferences (incest, bdsm, foot fetish, sizeplay, etc), character number (solo, group, large group, duo etc), large species groups (scalie, mammal, avian, crustacean, etc) and possibly others.

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savageorange said:
To me that seems to express what you actually want.

Not exactly.

Well, first off, if you treat them as one tag that has to be included, suddenly a lot of search slots are taken up. In your example, four tags would be used, using very little for whatever actual searches would normally be going on. I think limiting it to one or two is more reasonable.

Second I think a certain amount of flexibility is fine, as long as there's at least some precedent there.

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Just for shits and giggles, I tried the following individually: (v0.4)

1. post #1049426 - 0 results. No surprise here.
2. post #1005112 - 0 results. Kinda surprised. I figured it would find at least 1 other chair image.
3. post #974624 - 0 results. I think zero_pictured images stops it from working...
4. post #521328 - 0 results. Has a copyright this time (Star Fox) but still found nothing.
5. post #1144516 - 0 results. animate_inanimate this time, no species or characters.
6. post #1157879 - 0 results. Character and copyright tags present but no species tags (or many other tags for that matter).
7. post #1157971 - 3 results. Character and copyright tags present but no species tags. Lots of general tags. Finally found something but what exactly did it look for?
8. post #1159014 - 0 results. Species tagged, others not. I'm guessing character, species and copyright tags don't make a difference. Looks like solo was ignored as well.
9. post #286706 - 0 results. big_breasts tag present, but not much else. Low tag count seem to kill it.
10. post #315433 - 0 results. Zero pictured, ~40 general tags.
11. post #765898 - 6 results. Some basic gen tags present. All results had the same character, maybe character tags aren't ignored?
12. post #207584 - 0 results. Previous test without character tag.
13. post #1146671 - 23 results. Gentags only, over 45. Not zero_pictured. See results section.

What I learned:
  • zero_pictured kills it.
  • Displayed result count is always 1 higher than actual result count.
  • It only seems to care about certain general tags and ignore everything else, though test 11 suggests otherwise.
  • There may be a minimum tag requirement for gentags. Too few and it won't work.
  • Well-tagged images (>30 tags) are way more likely to be found.
  • There may be a priority system in place, ensuring at least one tag is in every result.

Try your favourites again and see if a tag shows up in every result. If it does, post it.

Random shit:
  • Gotta love the numbers in the results section:
    • Test 7 (lucky 7) with 3 results (good things come in threes).
    • Test 7 and 11 next to each other (7-Eleven ).
    • Test 11 had 6 results. The 6th prime number is 11 (1,2,3,5,7,11,13).
    • Test 13 (Unlucky 13) which had 23 results (23 enigma ).
    • 7+11-13 = 5 (Law of Fives)
    • 7, 11 and 13 are consecutive prime numbers.

Clawdragons said:
Not exactly.

Well, first off, if you treat them as one tag that has to be included, suddenly a lot of search slots are taken up. In your example, four tags would be used, using very little for whatever actual searches would normally be going on. I think limiting it to one or two is more reasonable.

I assumed that the tool was doing its own filtering to a certain extent, and thus was not subject to that kind of limit.

For example, doing only the searches involving tags that are not 'special' in the way you describe.


I've updated things a bit.

- Some tags are now weighted to have more or less of an effect on results
- Images you've already favorited should no longer appear

Let me know if these changes have made the results better or worse for you. They have been a little better for me, but if the changes have negatively affected everyone else's results I can adjust the weights appropriately.

savageorange said:
I assumed that the tool was doing its own filtering to a certain extent, and thus was not subject to that kind of limit.

For example, doing only the searches involving tags that are not 'special' in the way you describe.

At the moment, most of the filtering is done be the tool so I can avoid hitting the six tag search limit.


I can't access it, the url times out for me.


JAKXXX3 said:
I can't access it, the url times out for me.

same here