Remove original_character -> fan_character

In category: Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Original characters are not always fan characters; see Mae by Paige for one such example.


honestly, this alias creates a ton of mistagging and its objectively bad alias. the term is not exclusively used to refer fan characters (in fact it refers more commonly non-fan characters) and people add it to their own ocs without realizing what it causes.

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Original characters that are not fan characters shouldn't be tagged as original characters. By that logic all characters are original characters. It doesn't mean anything.

But I agree, original_character should be aliased to invalid_tag not fan_character. If you post your OC just tag its name.

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Carnaxus said:
Original characters are not always fan characters; see Mae by Paige for one such example.

The entire point of "original character" is to specify that you have added an original character of yours to an existing franchise, as opposed to a canon character. It's just a more "professional" way to say fan character.

If your character is COMPLETELY original and appearing in a completely original world of yours, then you don't need to make that distinction. It becomes a moot point.


FibS said:
The entire point of "original character" is to specify that you have added an original character of yours to an existing franchise, as opposed to a canon character. It's just a more "professional" way to say fan character.

If your character is COMPLETELY original and appearing in a completely original world of yours, then you don't need to make that distinction. It becomes a moot point.

I wouldn't call it professional, honestly it sounds more arrogant to call say 'original character' in place of 'fan character'. If it's a fan-made character in an established universe, there's not really as much originality as the fan thinks.

In short, I agree with aliasing 'original_character' to 'invalid_tag'.


Oh see, Donut steel.


MissChu said:
I wouldn't call it professional, honestly it sounds more arrogant to call say 'original character' in place of 'fan character'. If it's a fan-made character in an established universe, there's not really as much originality as the fan thinks.

In short, I agree with aliasing 'original_character' to 'invalid_tag'.

Believe it or not, that "arrogance" is way more common than people referring to fanchiseless characters as original.

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Well, the reason people refer to non-franchise characters as 'original characters' are more complicated.

Way back when, in the early days of the internet. everyone was very careful to place copyright information on any fan art or fanfic they did, because people were actually, literally getting threatened with legal action. When 'everyone' does something, it's easy to assume you need to do it too. "everyone says 'Stuff like "Lestat belongs to Anne Rice, but Ebony Dementia Raven belongs to ME!' ... so maybe I need to clarify that it's mine?"

Plus, when you create an interesting character, there's a lot of people who'll ask "whoa, he looks cool, what's he from?" leading to the explanation of "no, he's mine, I made him" and it's easier to forstall that by just explaining that they're an original character, not from any franchise.

Or that they're a fan character in the such and such setting.

Obviously, we're no longer in the dark days of the itnernet, but some habits live on


No.
By removing this alias and going by the logic provided in the op post, it would mean every image NOT tagged fan character would be tagged original character.
It is a useless tag, only people who need feel to use the "original character" on art are usually those under the age of 18 who think everyone is out to steal their characters.

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Chaser said:
It is a useless tag, only people who need feel to use the "original character" on art are usually those under the age of 18 who think everyone is out to steal their characters.

Again, original character is *also* a way of stating that, no, this character is is not from some TV show, it's 'mine'. I have spent much time browsing around. If you are at all a popular artist and you do not say "This is my character" you will have people asking what it's from.

And honestly, I really prefer people state it clearly: I hate when I have to spent 20 minutes searching around for ANY character information... Is it the artist's character? a character from a show? a commission? a friend??????

also, i generally agree in that original character is a useless tag, and should not be used on the site. It should not be aliased away to fan character either.

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MissChu said:
I wouldn't call it professional, honestly it sounds more arrogant to call say 'original character' in place of 'fan character'.

Arrogance and professionalism are only distinguished by perspective


FibS said:
Arrogance and professionalism are only distinguished by perspective

Well, that's certifiably incorrect.

The biggest idiots can be extremely confident and still be wrong.


FibS said:
Arrogance and professionalism are only distinguished by perspective

There is a difference. The latter gets the job done. The former thinks the only difference is perspective.

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kamimatsu said:
There is a difference. The latter gets the job done. The former thinks the only difference is perspective.

So you're turning this into a personal attack at the first opportunity.

e621 as usual, I see.


kamimatsu said:
There is a difference. The latter gets the job done. The former thinks the only difference is perspective.

FibS said:
So you're turning this into a personal attack at the first opportunity.

e621 as usual, I see.

Holy crab muffins, people, can't we be civil for one god damn thread?

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I don't see much proof that this alias causes mistags. Original_character is barely even tagged nowadays, mostly for MLP and Pokemon fan characters.

Also note that most of those originate from tags copied from other places: for instance, PoniBooru uses the original_character tag for fan characters. If the alias is undoed, those'll result in unnecessary invalid tags.

Probably best to just leave it.


Honestly the only problem I have this tag is people use it in lieu of "MLP" or "SONIC" or other more legit tags meaning those of us who blacklist certain things have no way to blacklist a color-swapped version of an official character without also blocking anything we DO want to see with an OC tag.


MissChu said:
Holy crab muffins, people, can't we be civil for one god damn thread?

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