Implicating pegging → female_penetration
Link to implication

Reason:

According to the wiki:e621.net/wiki/show?title=pegging, pegging is defined as a female using a strapon to penetrate a male.

EDIT: The tag implication pegging -> female_penetration (forum #191035) has been rejected by @Millcore.

I would recommend an alias; we're trying to get rid of the tag due to it being misued.

not always.

I vaguely remember images involving a small-packaged male using a strapon to please his partner.

you mean female_penetrating?

Mutisija said:
you mean female_penetrating?

Huh, I looked specifically to see if it had that typo and somehow didn't see it.

Knotty_Curls said:
not always.

I vaguely remember images involving a small-packaged male using a strapon to please his partner.

That's why we're trying to get rid of pegging, people like me wanted it to be broadened, while others complained that it was being used wrong.

Furrin_Gok said:
Huh, I looked specifically to see if it had that typo and somehow didn't see it.
That's why we're trying to get rid of pegging, people like me wanted it to be broadened, while others complained that it was being used wrong.

Pegging has a specific definition though outside of this site. there is toying_partner though you could probably use.

rdobet said:
Pegging has a specific definition though outside of this site. there is toying_partner though you could probably use.

I'm sure we're not the only location where people tried to use Pegging for any genders.

I concur. It's been pretty hard to blacklist this kind of thing when there is such a dependence on the term "pegging" which is seen as very specific and tends to rub people the wrong way when broadened, for what reason I don't understand.

As for toying partner, that doesn't help because a male can use a toy on a female and you may not want that blacklisted and at the same time, the issue is with all male anal penetration, not just the use of dildos which is where the broadening of the term comes into place.

Furrin_Gok said:
I'm sure we're not the only location where people tried to use Pegging for any genders.

Doesn't make it right. A guy wearing a dildo over his cock and fucking a guy isn't pegging. They actually make those irl for "big dick" porn shoots/if a guy wants to feel longer. Lesbians toying each other also wouldn't be pegging.

Ko-san said:
I concur. It's been pretty hard to blacklist this kind of thing when there is such a dependence on the term "pegging" which is seen as very specific and tends to rub people the wrong way when broadened, for what reason I don't understand.

The reason why is since "pegging" has a very specific use. Many people searching it don't want to see whatever else people felt like tagging it with outside the intended usage. :v

Words mean what a community decides they mean, man. Just because the intended definition is one thing doesn't mean people can't or even won't use it for other purposes.
In other words, if a guy wears a strap-on and pegs another guy, it's pegging because they're calling it pegging. That's why I was saying to alias it to something that can't be confused like that, "the community" isn't going to change the definition of "Female penetrating" so easily.

Furrin_Gok said:
Words mean what a community decides they mean, man. Just because the intended definition is one thing doesn't mean people can't or even won't use it for other purposes.
In other words, if a guy wears a strap-on and pegs another guy, it's pegging because they're calling it pegging. That's why I was saying to alias it to something that can't be confused like that, "the community" isn't going to change the definition of "Female penetrating" so easily.

The community at large isn't chiming in about it though because they have little reason to at the moment. You'll probably have a bunch of confused people in here wondering why pegging was changed to mean something it doesn't mean if it does get "officially" broadened.

So yeah, the only real options are to either get rid of the tag entirely in favor of adopting fully generalized terms that can cover all cases, or keeping it as-is while adding others for other cases. Broadening pegging outside of it's actual meaning would be a poor idea in this case because of the term's specificity and widely-known definition among furries and non-furries alike.

To me it just seems like stubbornness on your end. Pegging, plain and simply, is a man being anally penetrated for pleasure outside of homosexual intercourse. When people mention the act that's the only thing they take into account. I'd say this site, (and men who do it who are afraid as being labled something other than heterosexual) are the only examples of people who say it absolutely HAS to be a FEMALE using a STRAPON to perform ANAL SEX on a MALE partner.

I've seen people on other parts of the internet generalize pegging to mean a gender-irrelevant person being anally penetrated by a female with a strap-on. That is, they focused on the female part of the original definition, while you focus on the male part. I can't say how common definition drift is though, since the only interest I have in this discussion is hoping my blacklist against it still effectively blocks the male receiving part.

Also if pleasure is an important part of your definition, keep in mind that pegging rape is and should remain a perfectly valid combination of tags (as much as I wish it didn't exist in the first place ._.).

This doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Maybe it was a mistake to make the *_penetrated group. I'm starting to think that more specific tags would work better: female_penetrating_male, female_penetrating_intersex, intersex_penetrating_male, etc.

That'd make blacklisting easier, and then there would be no need to keep the pegging tag.

Genjar said:
This doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Maybe it was a mistake to make the *_penetrated group. I'm starting to think that more specific tags would work better: female_penetrating_male, female_penetrating_intersex, intersex_penetrating_male, etc.

That'd make blacklisting easier, and then there would be no need to keep the pegging tag.

The penetrated/penetrating tags are fine, it's the pegging tag that needs to be aliased away.

Furrin_Gok said:
The penetrated/penetrating tags are fine, it's the pegging tag that needs to be aliased away.

There's currently no way to alias it away without making it broader, and that'd make it impossible for the users to search for (or blacklist) the specific kink of a male being penetrated in a non-homosexual way.

Genjar said:
There's currently no way to alias it away without making it broader, and that'd make it impossible for the users to search for (or blacklist) the specific kink of a male being penetrated in a non-homosexual way.

female_penetrating male/female would be the way. If you want to encourage the tagging of penetrated as well, go for it.

animperfectpatsy said:
I've seen people on other parts of the internet generalize pegging to mean a gender-irrelevant person being anally penetrated by a female with a strap-on. That is, they focused on the female part of the original definition, while you focus on the male part. I can't say how common definition drift is though, since the only interest I have in this discussion is hoping my blacklist against it still effectively blocks the male receiving part.

Also if pleasure is an important part of your definition, keep in mind that pegging rape is and should remain a perfectly valid combination of tags (as much as I wish it didn't exist in the first place ._.).

In reference to the pleasure part, I was more thinking anal penetration in relation to, say, drug smuggling.

Furrin_Gok said:
female_penetrating male/female would be the way.

That's no good for blacklisting. Might work for duos, but not for groups:
post #846764 post #790447 post #551584 post #570291
post #624403 post #627938 post #629950 post #632483

Genjar said:
That's no good for blacklisting. Might work for duos, but not for groups:

Unfortunately, them's the breaks when it comes to blacklisting things.

And that's why it should be implicated.
Pegging is a common role-reversal fetish. It doesn't seem reasonable to just alias it away, since that would make it harder to both search for and to blacklist.

Genjar said:
And that's why it should be implicated.
Pegging is a common role-reversal fetish. It doesn't seem reasonable to just alias it away, since that would make it harder to both search for and to blacklist.

I would suggest "role-reversal fetish" but then there's that whole lgbt thing.

We do have a role_reversal tag but it's being used for a different purpose right now. It only has 264 posts though, maybe we could make a new tag for the posts currently tagged with it and switch them?

Ko-san said:
I would suggest "role-reversal fetish" but then there's that whole lgbt thing.

lgbt?

Siral_Exan said:
lgbt?

Well, let's say role reversal was used, instead, for a range of sub categories. In this example, let's say we use "small dom big sub", "reverse rape" (I'm not even sure that's being used), and "pegging" (though there would realistically be more same as the anus tag). Now that's perfect for "small dom etc" which is not gender specific but problems arise with sexist (or whatever) tones by "enforcing cisgender stereotypes" (or whatever) and I don't think the administration would appreciate dealing with that kind of crap.

@dragonfox69

That could easily be changed to personality swap unless the term is more broadly used in which case I still think it fits.

Siral_Exan said:
lgbt?

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, I think.

The tag implication pegging -> female_penetration (forum #191035) has been rejected by @Millcore.