This is a discussion about the tag in relation to e621

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It's December of [current year] again,

What do you all think about the christmas TAG?

I was curious, and ran a search^*1 for

christmas ~500 (504) posts
christmas ~religion ~jesus_christ ~cross: ~10 (7) posts
christmas -religion -jesus_christ -cross: ~500 (490) posts

So, if 95%+^*2 of content for the christmas tag is non-religious, or has no major references to Christianity, why is it being tagged with christmas as the default name?

Some definitions: [source]

[(490 / 504) * 100] = 97.222222..%
 
490: {{christmas -religion -jesus_christ -cross}}
504: {{christmas}} 

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Some recent examples (christmas score:>=5):
post #1068802 post #1067747 post #1066541 post #1065663
post #1073985 post #1060554 post #1053262 post #1043744 post #1066494

It'd be easier to keep the festive elements separate from the religious elements since the two are fairly distinct.

Santa Claus on one side, Jesus Christ on the other.

Personally, I was thinking we could have a separate tag for christmas, where it's explicitly mentioned on the post:
post #1058366 post #1056995

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and a tag for ones where it's not mentioned:

post #1057872
+ all in above example

Halloween and Easter don't have such a distinction. Does Christmas need one?

BlueDingo said:
It'd be easier to keep the festive elements separate from the religious elements since the two are fairly distinct.

Santa Claus on one side, Jesus Christ on the other.

Yeah, exactly

titanmelon said:
Yeah, exactly

Simply place all the religious elements in the christianity tag and all the festive elements under the christmas tag. Only cross them over when elements of both are present.

BlueDingo said:
Halloween and Easter don't have such a distinction. Does Christmas need one?

Probably because there's no direct reference to Christianity/religion in their names

(TWYS)

Danbooru has a merry_christmas tag for images that explicitly say "Merry Christmas" somewhere within it. Should we go with that?

BlueDingo said:
Simply place all the religious elements in the christianity tag and all the festive elements under the christmas tag. Only cross them over when elements of both are present.

Something like this sounds a step towards theme separation, yeah

Seems a bit strange to use a tag called christ-mas for scenes with no Christian imagery though

BlueDingo said:
Danbooru has a merry_christmas tag for images that explicitly say "Merry Christmas" somewhere in the image. Should we go with that?

Sounds good!

Some kind of explicitly stated tag for such situations could be extended to other similar cases as well
(there were questions about this relating to the issue of tagging things in that were stated in the post, but not actually present, [links go here])

titanmelon said:
Seems a bit strange to use a tag called christ-mas for scenes with no Christian imagery though

Then again, a lot of people who celebrate Christmas aren't christians. Maybe this is why some call it Xmas instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas

Some kind of explicitly stated tag for such situations could be extended to other similar cases as well
(there were questions about this relating to the issue of tagging things in that were stated in the post, but not actually present, [links go here])

Happy holidays is considered a non-religious synonym for Merry Christmas despite its ambiguity so including it in the Merry Christmas's scope should be okay.

BlueDingo said:
Then again, a lot of people who celebrate Christmas aren't christians. Maybe this is why some call it Xmas instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas

Happy holidays is considered a non-religious synonym for Merry Christmas despite its ambiguity so including it in the Merry Christmas's scope should be okay.

Yeah, actually, I was recently informed that according to Futurama, it's officially called Xmas in the future
if we heard it on Futurama, then it must be true!

Maybe we could do something with an xmas/christmas tag pair?

I'd say there's no need. christmas religion would find the christmas images with elements specific to religion.

BTW, christmas cross doesn't find any religious images and christmas religion only finds two.