this is my first time using the forum, so please excuse me if I did anything wrong

As many of you already know, it is illegal to create uncensored porn in Japan. It seems a shame that some of these great works have to be brought down by intrusive censorship. It is easy enough to remove black bars and blur with photoshop, and I have done this for myself on occasion. I would like for others to enjoy these censored pictures in their full glory, but I don't know if modifying another artists work and re-uploading it is ok. I can see how an artist might not want someone else to mess with their art. Is there any precedent for this? I know that there are plenty of edits posted here but I don't know if the editor got the artist's permission first. I would like to uncensor this image:

https://e621.net/post/show/1263201/after_sex-anus-balls-bed-blush-butt-canine-censore

Firstly it is HEAVILY recommended to contact the artist and ask for permission beforehand. After that's done, you then upload the edit with the original as the parent post, and tag the post as "edit" and "uncensored".

Call me a perfectionist, but I personally don't like uncensored edits that much (unless if it's done by the original artists), as I felt that many are unfaithful to what the original artists had done, even if it tries so hard to emulate it perfectly.

In rare cases, the artist can get in trouble for it. Because it might end up being confused as an official version, which wasn't properly censored.

If you do ask for permission, it is unlikely that you'll receive it. Uncensoring for private use is fine by most, but uncensoring for public? No.

Pretty much all uncensor-edits have been done and uploaded without permission, though that's not something that the site condones.

I know this may seem a little off what you were saying but what you said made me think that sometimes those censored versions are quite beautiful the way it is and that it can be more artistic. I mean, I do enjoy a nice smutty piece but I love seeing what the artist wanted regardless if I see the bits or not.

Werewolfchibichan said:
I know this may seem a little off what you were saying but what you said made me think that sometimes those censored versions are quite beautiful the way it is and that it can be more artistic. I mean, I do enjoy a nice smutty piece but I love seeing what the artist wanted regardless if I see the bits or not.

Um, I don't think japanese artists want to censor their stuff, it's just required by law. I would hate to have to ruin parts of my work and I doubt that japanese are that different in that aspect.

MyNameIsOver20charac said:
Um, I don't think japanese artists want to censor their stuff, it's just required by law. I would hate to have to ruin parts of my work and I doubt that japanese are that different in that aspect.

censoring is not necessarily ruining it. it can be part of the drawing as whole and even enchance it if you get creative with it. there are ways to censor stuff besides black boxes and pixelation.

siikaprinssi said:
censoring is not necessarily ruining it. it can be part of the drawing as whole and even enchance it if you get creative with it. there are ways to censor stuff besides black boxes and pixelation.

True, didn't think of that. Ah well my point still stands for black boxes and pixellation, which I'm pretty sure stands for the majority of japanese censoring.

As far as posting images here goes: please refer to "Edits" in our uploading guidelines.
As long as the rest of the image is identical quality and edit itself is done well enough, it's usually approved here.

However keep in mind that we need to know if edit is edit. We have artists on conditional DNP which have told us not to approve any edits of their artwork and original artwork is never inferior to edit, so it's crusial to be as transparent as possible to avoid accidental mistakes from lack of information.

Always tag edits with edit tag, always parent the post to original post, always source to original submission and please use description field to your advantage and tell it's edit and what was edited.

Also as general reminder, never flag original to be inferior to edit, you can always do new and improved edits from original, but you'll never get original out of edit. If we are unsure if edit is edit or if censor offers something of value instead of being just simple black line, we keep both versions up.

siikaprinssi said:
censoring is not necessarily ruining it. it can be part of the drawing as whole and even enchance it if you get creative with it. there are ways to censor stuff besides black boxes and pixelation.

One of the best tags out there: creative_censorship

Mairo said:
One of the best tags out there: creative_censorship

am i doing it right?

siikaprinssi said:
am i doing it right?

Memes. The end.

Thanks to everyone who responded, I didn't expect this kind of response. What I get from this is that I technically could edit and re-upload the image, but I probably shouldn't, so I won't.

if anyone was curious, here is my edit. I tried my best to stay as close to the original artist's style and intentions.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Qr96P1QlQzOqW5mjeLE8iBRkaaVrzxYE

and as for censors being "beautiful" I disagree. I don't know why you come to this site, buddy, but I come to look at porn and censorship gets in the way of the true beauty - cartoon wolf dicks.

biorex said:
Thanks to everyone who responded, I didn't expect this kind of response. What I get from this is that I technically could edit and re-upload the image, but I probably shouldn't, so I won't.

if anyone was curious, here is my edit. I tried my best to stay as close to the original artist's style and intentions.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Qr96P1QlQzOqW5mjeLE8iBRkaaVrzxYE

and as for censors being "beautiful" I disagree. I don't know why you come to this site, buddy, but I come to look at porn and censorship gets in the way of the true beauty - cartoon wolf dicks.

Well, like I said before, I don't like edits, and I don't think it should stick close to what the original artist had intended, but hey, if this what you want, then I guess you should go ahead.

I can't say anything about that kind of censorship. I'm have pretty neutral feelings about it, but because this is the internet, people can complain about it whatever they want, which gives me bad feelings. The face that people demanding it uncensored shows that they can sometimes be lazy.

biorex said:
Thanks to everyone who responded, I didn't expect this kind of response. What I get from this is that I technically could edit and re-upload the image, but I probably shouldn't, so I won't.

if anyone was curious, here is my edit. I tried my best to stay as close to the original artist's style and intentions.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Qr96P1QlQzOqW5mjeLE8iBRkaaVrzxYE

and as for censors being "beautiful" I disagree. I don't know why you come to this site, buddy, but I come to look at porn and censorship gets in the way of the true beauty - cartoon wolf dicks.

You saved as PNG to avoid further quality degradation. Tried to match original style as good as possible. Slight softness in places but mostly in contrast with othervice heavily compressed source material.

You just passed three most major hurdles that many users uploading edits here have stumbled upon. I would most likely approve that if uploaded here.

I actually wouldn't mind slight denoising when editing material as it makes things bit easier and there's then no contrast on edited and unedited sections and no bloated filesize, as there doesn't appear to be better source for the image unless you go and ask the artist to upload it to their pixiv account.

Also as said, there are tons of differend kind of censor methods. Also might sound odd coming from someone who complains about JPG compression ruining images all day, but example image is still at the point where most is showing and rest is easy to fill with imagination so that's at the point where it shouldn't bother that much, but at the same time I do see if it's being joy killer.

cerberusmod_3 said:
Well, like I said before, I don't like edits, and I don't think it should stick close to what the original artist had intended, but hey, if this what you want, then I guess you should go ahead.

I can't say anything about that kind of censorship. I'm have pretty neutral feelings about it, but because this is internet, people can complain about it whatever they want, which gives me bad feelings. The face that people demanding it uncensored shows that they can sometimes be lazy.

Removal of thing made to hide original artwork shouldn't try to match the thing that was hidden? I'm not entirely sure I'm following here. It would be better to just ms paint that or copy-paste photograph of penis instead?

Edits are alteration of image, but in case of uncensor edits you are trying to reverse the effect of the censored area, meaning that the intention should be to match original style as well as possible.

Mairo said:
Edits are alteration of image, but in case of uncensor edits you are trying to reverse the effect of the censored area, meaning that the intention should be to match original style as well as possible.

Of course, but uncensored edits are still edits. Even if it tries to matches the original style, it still doesn't feels quite right. Remember Ecce Homo?

A fresco painted in 1930. When an amateur art restorer attempted to restore the fresco after she noticed that parts of it had peeled off due to moisture on the church's walls, it instead failed to resemble what it was originally looked. Because of this, it became a global laughingstock, and also an internet phenomenon.

Not exactly relevant to this topic, but it's a great example of how not all edits are perfect.

For clarification: do japanese censorship laws blanket all content created within the country, or just what is being hosted or published within the country?

Because I've definitely seen official uncensored versions on twitter or US-hosted furry sites, for example. If the law doesn't cover anything published outside japan I'd say the best course of action would be to inform the artist of this rather than edit it yourself.

That being said, the artists over there really need to collectively get their asses in gear and get the law abolished for good. In america we're still giant prudes about sex and nudity, but a law like this would have been gone shortly after the internet happened.

Ijerk said:
That being said, the artists over there really need to collectively get their asses in gear and get the law abolished for good. In america we're still giant prudes about sex and nudity, but a law like this would have been gone shortly after the internet happened.

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Genjar said:
Not to mention that some politicians refuse to even consider that, because according to them it's not Japan's decision. The law was put in place by general Douglas MacArthur after the war, therefore it should stay in effect until USA undoes it.

Which seems unlikely to happen.