So a user took upon themselves to flag the latest 5 posts I uploaded. Three from Eric W and two from Grimdevil.
Because it comes from patreon, does that automatically mean we cant upload it for a certain amount of time?

Most of the Sonic and Sally comics are already uploaded on to the site and the latest two I uploaded were posted free publicly on Patreon.
https://e621.net/pool/show/4025
https://www.patreon.com/GrimDevil

The others are
https://e621.net/pool/show/12483

Paysite content at all is DNP.

And now I have 2 forums mentioning me. Slyroon, I'm catching up!

And your Sally pages are way too high res.

To clarify, the copies you uploaded were from an alternate website--some chan or another as I recall. These were uploaded by someone who 'stole' the content from the artist's patreon. If yo ugo to his fur affinity etc, he hasn't uploaded those images you uploaded yet there, and when he DOES Uplaod them, it's as a smaller resolution.

SnowWolf said:
To clarify, the copies you uploaded were from an alternate website--some chan or another as I recall. These were uploaded by someone who 'stole' the content from the artist's patreon. If yo ugo to his fur affinity etc, he hasn't uploaded those images you uploaded yet there, and when he DOES Uplaod them, it's as a smaller resolution.

Okidoki.
Ok I just looked at Eric's Furfantity. Page 9 was the latest one he uploaded. I dont know how quality makes a difference.

Playfur_Cinema said:
Okidoki.
Ok I just looked at Eric's Furfantity. Page 9 was the latest one he uploaded. I dont know how quality makes a difference.

Quality is a way to determine whether something is superior to an image or it is actually paysite content. Your Sally comic pages are almost 5x larger than the ones on site, and the artist doesn't make it apparent that they upload such resolution versions anywhere but their Patreon. Since Cat-in-Flight already gets the best version available (usually), and the source you uploaded with, I can come to the conclusion that you uploaded paysite content versions of the regular comic pages.

With Eric, I merely had to check a more private (but publicly accessible) source which denounced your versions as paysite content. I have a reliable way of finding paysite versions of comics, and I can always provide proof to a staff member.

Playfur_Cinema said:
Okidoki.
Ok I just looked at Eric's Furfantity. Page 9 was the latest one he uploaded. I dont know how quality makes a difference.

Quality itself doesn't make a difference.

However many artists opt to give higher quality versions to patrons or sell them while giving smaller versions to public. This is really common practise as this way everyone can enjoy the content, but only those who have paid for it get print level stuff.

But this highly varies from artist to artist. In some cases the downscale might even be accidental, as many post on places like furaffinity, they might be uploading the same file but it's actually the furaffinity which is making it much lower quality - as there has been several comics reposted several times here thanks to furaffinitys awful handling of image files.

I'm not familiar with this comic in question and almost at the bed, but if the public pages have been much lower quality, higher quality pages are usually considered to be paid material unless artists public source (or artists written permission) for them is provided by the uploader.

I will provide both the link where I found mine and the patron site and ya'll can decide from there.

Playfur_Cinema said:
I will provide both the link where I found mine and the patron site and ya'll can decide from there.

Please, don't use the link. Use a public source, Eric's FA and TheFuckingDevil's Patreon pages, instead of that site. Those sites are not good for finding posts, they practically thrive with paysite images, and those will be deleted when found out.

Siral_Exan said:
Please, don't use the link. Use a public source, Eric's FA and TheFuckingDevil's Patreon pages, instead of that site. Those sites are not good for finding posts, they practically thrive with paysite images, and those will be deleted when found out.

I put Devil's Patreon with direct links to both the Sally and Sonic pictures in the sources. As a matter of fact here they are.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/sally-comic-page-16502326

https://www.patreon.com/posts/sally-comic-page-16731653

Adventure Begins at Home Page 9.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/26592096/

Playfur_Cinema said:
I put Devil's Patreon with direct links to both the Sally and Sonic pictures in the sources. As a matter of fact here they are.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/sally-comic-page-16502326

https://www.patreon.com/posts/sally-comic-page-16731653

Adventure Begins at Home Page 9.
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/26592096/

First two links:
Available version: 577x860
Your uploads: 2885x4302
On right side panel, you have to pledge B cup ($5/month) to get HD versions of the images.

Verdict: paid material.

Second comic:
Available version: 910x1280
Your upload: 1280x1800
Seems to be downscaled by FA, but still only version available. On right side panel it's stated you need to pledge $1 per comic page/illustration for standard definition as well as getting early access. You did also upload images which did not have artists own public sources, falling into that patreon pledge.

Verdict: paid material.

Poked admin to handle the situation further, I'm so sleep rn.
E: of course anyone is free to upload the versions which are available on these given sources.

Ok...

Please, do not use U18 or equivalent sites as sources for your posts. Please, do not take the images found therein, upload them, and feign the source as from a public site. Please, use only the public source from a first party site, such as FA, INK, DA, Patreon, and etc., instead of U18 or equivalent sites.

(royal) We can see that you changed the sources, those are recorded as tag edits (example, not declarative). Even if you uploaded and feigned, all sources from first party sites can be tracked to a resolution to that specific image. It'll be blatantly obvious that you lied about sources because at the very least your resolution will be different than your source. They will still be flagged, even more so since the source is intentionally wrong.

Uploading paysite content will result in the posts containing paysite content getting deleted. No ifs, ands, or buts except if the artist has given permission or is the uploader themself. You only waste people's time by uploading paysite content, intentionally or otherwise, so use a public, first party source instead.

Siral_Exan said:
Ok...

Please, do not use U18 or equivalent sites as sources for your posts. Please, do not take the images found therein, upload them, and feign the source as from a public site. Please, use only the public source from a first party site, such as FA, INK, DA, Patreon, and etc., instead of U18 it equivalent sites.

(royal) We can see that you changed the sources, those are recorded as tag edits. Even if you uploaded and feigned, all sources from first party sites can be tracked to a resolution to that specific image. It'll be blatantly obvious that you lied about sources because at the very least your resolution will be different than your source. They will still be flagged, even more so since the source is intentionally wrong.

Uploading paysite content will result in the posts containing paysite content getting deleted. No ifs, ands, or buts except if the artist has given permission or is the uploader themself. You only waste people's time by uploading paysite content, intentionally or otherwise, so use a public, first party source instead.

I didnt say I got them from a different source. I provided the other places you could find them. Sorry I can't give you your time back.
I'll keep my mouth shut from now on.

Playfur_Cinema said:
I didnt say I got them from a different source. I provided the other places you could find them. Sorry I can't give you your time back.
I'll keep my mouth shut from now on.

Use those places, not U18. You still uploaded paysite content, editing in a valid source doesn't change that fact. I used to have to babysit U18 because people took those sources, they are not from FA and et cetera. Just use public, first party sources instead, only linking to them solves nothing.

I'll put this clearly since I too feel like I'm getting misinterpreted: don't use U18 for images. It is a remarkably bad site, and while making amends by adding in valid links is good, it doesn't undo the damage done. If you want to upload further comic pages, use the sources you've linked prior instead of U18.

Mairo said:
First two links:
Available version: 577x860
Your uploads: 2885x4302
On right side panel, you have to pledge B cup ($5/month) to get HD versions of the images.

Verdict: paid material.

...

Poked admin to handle the situation further, I'm so sleep rn.
E: of course anyone is free to upload the versions which are available on these given sources.

I don't use patreon, but can download this as 1600x2385

Sooo.. still not the right size, but better than the listed available version from fur affinity I think.

But patreon's a mystery to me--I just know that Imagus shows me a bigger picture than 577x860.

Might be that all the other pictures are too small.

SnowWolf said:
I don't use patreon, but can download this as 1600x2385

I was looking at those, but just deleted my post. Those versions are upscaled. example

Noticeable aliasing at 2K whereas a random 4K version that I checked had no aliasing.

abadbird said:
I was looking at those, but just deleted my post. Those versions are upscaled. example

Noticeable aliasing at 2K whereas a random 4K version that I checked had no aliasing.

Hmm.. So it is. Hrmm.

That's.. weird. I mean-- I dunno if he upscaled the version himself, of if that's just a quirk of patreon. Either way-- geeze.

I shoudla looked more closely, but I was glancing between stuff and in a hurry and bleh.

Still, weird. I woulda looked towards Patreon as the best place to get the best quality stuff a creator's putting out. Guess not. c_c;

SnowWolf said:
I don't use patreon, but can download this as 1600x2385

Sooo.. still not the right size, but better than the listed available version from fur affinity I think.

But patreon's a mystery to me--I just know that Imagus shows me a bigger picture than 577x860.

Might be that all the other pictures are too small.

Even if the resolution was 1600x2385, the content user uploaded didn't appear to be scaled, so the point is still the same.

Patreon upscales content. Which is insanely fucking retarted, but this is the case. Workaround is to tell artists to put the file also as attachement, so that patreon won't do anything to it. They have actually fixed this at one point and but now it's back. So, please feel free to contact your local patreon social media manager about this issue to remind them about this.

As of writing this, current system scales the preview version on page to be 1600 pixels in width, smaller content gets upscaled, larger content downscaled and same width content resaved (JPG file = more compression). You can get closest to original file by first clicking zoom on the image itself and getting that file, it's still altered from original upload but that's best you can get without artist putting it as attachement.
https://e621.net/wiki/show/howto:sites_and_sources#patreon

Like abadbird said above, just looking at the image you can clearly see that there's something wrong with it even without knowing how upscale looks or how to inspect for it. Upscales are not allowed in here, no matter were it done by artist, web service or third party like the uploader, so it's getting deleted on approval process. There are some posts which have never been properly uploaded afterwards sadly, so there's something if someone has extra time on their hands.
delreason:upscale*patreon