WARNING: I apologize in advance if I sound/am being confrontational. My past has developed me into a bit of an angry person in general, and while I try to control it, it's very difficult.

I will admit, I'm getting frustrated that my posts that I uploaded 25 days ago are receiving no attention (pool #15490 if you want to be the kind soul that finally chooses to approve or delete them), and that the 35-day deadline is fast approaching. I've seen this happen with other pictures that seem to be above the minimum acceptable quality, but get completely ignored. I want to ask: What prevents you from approving or deleting a post when you come across a "tricky" post? Do you even come across "tricky" posts? Do you turn off your blacklist when sorting through pending posts? Do you sort by oldest first? Do you only sort when you see it as you go about the site, or do you set aside time purely for sorting pending posts?

Things can get buried by all the other things that get posted. Say this site gets 500 posts a day (it can easy be more than that, but for the sake of simple math we'll go with that), that stuff that you posted had been buried by 12,500 other images and animations that have to be gone through since the 25 days ago that you posted it. Also, the positions given to those that approve art are purely volunteer positions, and those that do it do it in the spare time that the set aside from their daily lives. I'm sure that if there could somehow be a paid position for art approvals and other site management (which I doubt will ever happen) things would probably run more smoothly.

And as far as blacklists for hiding posts for approvals, I personally don't use my blacklist so that I can see anything and everything on the site that gets submitted, but sometimes I have a hard time deciding whether or not something should stay on the site, as something that might seem okay to me, might not be okay to another member of the staff, as we are all people with differences of opinion.

I hope that all helps.

I don't have anything in my blacklist and I do try to prioritize older posts, but my personal strenghts are handling actual files instead of the content, so I prefer to stay with stuff like animated content and flagged posts, especially if I only have little time to spare.

If the post is over week old, chances are that I might've seen it, but don't have strong and justifyable opionion one way or another, usually leaning towards deletion, so I'll leave it to either come back to it (which rarely happens thanks to thousand new posts next day) or hoping someone else manages to do decision.

I did see that example pool and saw how much problems anatomy had, but at the same time there were parts which were maybe acceptable, but as overall felt it wasn't good.

Also in future, definitely recommending using PNG.

Mairo said:
I don't have anything in my blacklist and I do try to prioritize older posts, but my personal strenghts are handling actual files instead of the content, so I prefer to stay with stuff like animated content and flagged posts, especially if I only have little time to spare.

If the post is over week old, chances are that I might've seen it, but don't have strong and justifyable opionion one way or another, usually leaning towards deletion, so I'll leave it to either come back to it (which rarely happens thanks to thousand new posts next day) or hoping someone else manages to do decision.

I did see that example pool and saw how much problems anatomy had, but at the same time there were parts which were maybe acceptable, but as overall felt it wasn't good.

Also in future, definitely recommending using PNG.

I was given it in jpeg format.

ShylokVakarian said:
WARNING: I apologize in advance if I sound/am being confrontational. My past has developed me into a bit of an angry person in general, and while I try to control it, it's very difficult.

okay, a brief aside before we get started. I understand this. But I also believe that you can, 100% control yourself if you want to. it's not easy. it's not jsut deciding one day to not get mad again, It's a long slow process that is built day by day, not all at once. You can change yourself if you want to.

Find words that help sooth yourself in the future: "This is not a big deal. This is an annoyance. It is a frustration. This doesnt' affect anything. Everything is okay." sometimes trying to pinpoint WHY something is angering helps. ("This upsets me because I feel disrespected" versus "I have other art I would like to upload" versus "I don't like waiting") ... It can be hard, but try to keep perspective. a lot of the things that make us angry won't matter in a few days, a few weeks, or a few years. The driver cutting us off? annoying. Dangerous! But outside of the danger factor, it's a brief issue.

You can be better than you are, if you want to be. It just takes time. People like to talk about having an Ebeneezer scrooge moment where 'all of a sudden, I had a HUGE hallelujah moment and realized...!" and that's bull. That's deciding that you want to change. actually changing is something that is slow.

It's like painting a black wall white, you start in one area and slowly work your way across the wall. Sometimes you miss places. Maybe you need a second coat, because it still looks gray. Maybe a third. Sometimes it gets smudged or chipped. From the moment you put the brush on the wall, you can't really say that it's a black wall or a white wall, but it's a wall that's changing. You're painting that wall, one stroke at a time. There's not a magic point where the black wall becomes white. Just one day you look at it and say "yeah, that's pretty good."

And as the artist, sometimes you look at the wall and you see all the little corners where the brush didn't fit, or the little gaps here or there, you see the imperfections and see them as failure. Most people will never notice. To them, the wall's white, y'know?

Just keep painting man.

I want to ask: What prevents you from approving or deleting a post when you come across a "tricky" post?

Well, speaking personally, Sometimes it's that I hate the content, dislike the style, or something about it annoys me, but I feel like I'm being biased, so I don't act.
Sometimes I'm unsure: Maybe I'm being too harsh? Maybe this animal humanoid is too much like a human wearing a costume? Maybe There's another rule that it maybe kinda sorta violates.
For me, I'm an artist: I can recognize some of the "common" things newer artists do (y'know, trying to hide hands, cutting off pictures at ankles, poor framing, "I drew this hand once, and don't want to draw it again" ... etc etc etc.) ... and while new artists don't automatically draw bad art, I SEE it as clumsy and poorly done. But again, I recognize that i"m being biased and will let someone else look at it.

Mostly it's just that I'm not quite sure if it's good enough.

Sometimes we wonder if an image is traced. Or if someone is posting a DNP artist and just saying unknown_artist. Sometimes we get caught up on 'is there a better version available?" or "Why isn't there a source?" Sometimes we're not sure if it's paid content, or if it's a base, or there's some other reason that it shouldn't be approved. We normally get back to those pretty quickly.

Do you even come across "tricky" posts?

All the time, man. over a thousand posts are posted each day. search for status:pending and look at the last pages. Those are all posts that we've not made choices on. Tricky posts are why the automoderator was created.

Do you turn off your blacklist when sorting through pending posts?

No.

If I don't want to see while normally browsing, why would I want to see it when approving posts?

That said, most of us don't use our blacklists much. But blacklists are not the problem with tricky posts, I promise.

Do you sort by oldest first?

That varies from person to person. Again, with over 1000 new posts a day, we all have our own ways of going through the queue. Me, I tend to just search status:pending and pick a random page. Every few days, I start at the back, but that tends to be exhausting because you look at once tricky picture... and maybe you decide, maybe you don't but you spend a lot of brain juice on it, and then you go on to the next image and it's the same thing. Then the next one and the next one. and it's TIRING, man. We don't enjoy not making decisions. We like the feeling and being able to look at a post and sort it neatly into one box or the other and move on to the next images.

I promise, the problem isn't that no one saw a particular picture. it's that no one could make a decision on it.

Do you only sort when you see it as you go about the site, or do you set aside time purely for sorting pending posts?

This is getting down to personal preferences.

I mean. This is work flow. we all have our different ideas of what works best for us. What works for one janitor doesn't always work for another.

But, i think I can give you a decent bit of information that might help you, even though it's not what you're looking for.

We have a specialized moderator page that allows us to see the pending posts, and sort through them and filter them in a wide variety of ways. We are given a lot of information on this page. It's a good and helpful page. If it's not approved, it's on this page.

We are not, as has been suggested before, clicking "approve" with one hand, with our hands in our pants with the other.

most of the time. ;)

While causally browsing, I am way more likely to disapprove of posts than approve of them, because i'm here to look at art, not "work".

When I sit down to work, I am looking at the site in some form of filtered state that controls what I'm being exposed to.

....

as for your PARTICULAR artwork... generally speaking, and speaking for me alone: it's not bad. I'm not fond of the subject matter, but I try not to let that affect me. (I don't like lots of muscles) ... it's well put together, but there's a lot that's not quite ... well. You're new at art and I can tell . and that's okay! we all gotta start somewhere and the difference between a new artist and an experienced artist is miles of paper, so to speak. Practice.

But for me, I can see a lot of places, where it looks like you/the artist placed a line down and said "good enough." ... like, in http://www.furaffinity.net/view/28054516/ the chests and stomachs were given a LOT of love and attention. very nice--if muscles are your thing. The expressions say a lot! But like.. brown-dudes' arm is just kinda hanging out there. I don't know what it's doing. It's.... an arm. is it clenched? is it reaching up, hanging down? is he flexing his mighty back muscles to brace against the wall? Iiiii dunno!

I'm also not sure that the muscles around the elbow look like that. And you go down into the forearm and it's just kinda... There. there's no attention to detail there. and the hand feels like it was sketched in quickly and left along. t he big lump along the bottom doesn't make sense and the thumb at the top of the fist is doing.. something? kind of... overlapping? the rest of the fingers? I guess? Blue dude's hands ... he has no thumbs? and the fingers jsut look like quick little noodle fingers. Like, there's no... definition. Those were drawn in REALLY quickly.

and brown guy's legs are the same way: You've got some vague muscle-lines that I am pretyt positive don't work that way... going down into feet that are... weird. Blocky, wuth no toe definition really except at the tip. and the closest foot has some really weird toes. and don't get me started on the OTHER feet...

Those toes look a lot like "I drew these toes once and they're good enough" ... compared to the just amount of detail of the bellies and chests --the intracate shading along the ONE side of that ONE pec... (and randomly under that one hand?) and the rest is just "air brush some black in."

Shading with black is a no-no BTW. :/

It just... looks very amature. No offense meant to the artist who is clearly doing very well in learning a skill that takes many lifetimes to master. It's a good piece of artwork, but it's not what e621 wants out of the art that we archive.

We're not perfect. we're human and we make mistakes. and in a perfect world, we could just accept or deny everything in the order it's recieved, but we're human. and gosh, did I mention over 1000 posts a day?

Everyone things it's "click, approve, click, approve" but that's how mistakes happen.

I mean, if each post only takes a minute to approve, that's over 1000 minutes a day. or 16 and a half hours. if we had 4 janitors, that's still over 4 hours a day. Some posts go by quicker -- we have some uploaders who we know are good and generally don't need a lot of supervision. But others take a lot longer than a minute. I am honestly not sure how we manage, haha.

SnowWolf said:
as for your PARTICULAR artwork... generally speaking, and speaking for me alone: it's not bad. I'm not fond of the subject matter, but I try not to let that affect me. (I don't like lots of muscles) ... it's well put together, but there's a lot that's not quite ... well. You're new at art and I can tell

This isn't my work. I commissioned it. The artist who drew them already has like 30 posts credited to him.

Also, "brown-dude" has a name, y'know. *coughcoughisme*

Sounds to me like they are simply understaffed and/or the staff that they do have are inactive or uninterested in approving posts (not a dig on the staff, just saying...it's possible for people to get tired of moderating furry porn). Considering I highly doubt that they pay anything to these people I think they should just open up recruitment for new janitors making it explicit that these janitors would focus their attention in the lacking areas...25 days to get an image approved just seems too damn long...protip: if you want people to use your site don't keep them waiting for 3+ weeks.

ShylokVakarian said:
This isn't my work. I commissioned it.

I know it isn't.. You were asking about the artwork you submitted. hense "your artwork" --Oh wait, I did say "you" at one point -- my bad! No, I know it's not your artwork :)

The artist who drew them already has like 30 posts credited to him.

Approval once--or thirty times-- doesn't mean approval always :) Many of those images were uplaoded before the tightening of our artisst standards. " as for the rest of it... we're human man. Tha'ts all there is to it. Sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad.

Also, "brown-dude" has a name, y'know. *coughcoughisme*

No, I don't know :p But thank you for telling me. :) He's a good looking character :)

I hope we all helped answer your questiosn well? :)

Dyrone said:
Sounds to me like they are simply understaffed and/or the staff that they do have are inactive or uninterested in approving posts (not a dig on the staff, just saying...it's possible for people to get tired of moderating furry porn). Considering I highly doubt that they pay anything to these people I think they should just open up recruitment for new janitors making it explicit that these janitors would focus their attention in the lacking areas...25 days to get an image approved just seems too damn long...protip: if you want people to use your site don't keep them waiting for 3+ weeks.

There are over 800 new posts daily and most get approved within several days, so anything that waits 1+ week was either missed completely or a staff member couldn't make an immediate decision. I personally like to work in bulk so I'll spend a few hours just banging on the queue instead of doing a set amount daily. Plus I'm not always feeling up to slogging through tons of furry porn every day.

Dyrone said:
Sounds to me like they are simply understaffed and/or the staff that they do have are inactive or uninterested in approving posts (not a dig on the staff, just saying...it's possible for people to get tired of moderating furry porn). Considering I highly doubt that they pay anything to these people I think they should just open up recruitment for new janitors making it explicit that these janitors would focus their attention in the lacking areas...25 days to get an image approved just seems too damn long...protip: if you want people to use your site don't keep them waiting for 3+ weeks.

*deleted

Not exactly a happy ending for my posts, but at least NMNY did SOMETHING about them (So good on them for giving into my whining and delivering the coup de grace, I guess). I just wish this whole ordeal didn't count against my upload limit. I'm now at 7 just because I didn't know standards were raised. *sigh* Sic vita est. (Translation: In such life is)

SnowWolf said:
Oh wait, I did say "you" at one point -- my bad!

Trust me, you'd know if you were looking at something I drew, because you'd be trying to claw out your eyeballs. There's a reason I don't draw anymore, mainly because my art teacher never had drawing people in her damn curriculum, yet I can draw still life, one-point, and two-point perspectives, and make coil pots out of clay just fine, and even those aren't exactly very good because she liked to focus on painting, the thing I'm the least good at. And she switched from tempera to acrylic once we hit high school, so there goes everything I learned about using tempera paint. Thanks, Ms. McNeely/Schaffer. >.<

SnowWolf said:
Approval once--or thirty times-- doesn't mean approval always :) Many of those images were uplaoded before the tightening of our artisst standards.

I know, but I thought that since he was already uploaded several times, I'd've had a pretty good chance of getting these approved. Guess not.

Also, I passed your critique over to the artist. This was his response:

ehh. e621 is like the gamefaqs of artists.

*hides behind a bulletproof credenza*

ShylokVakarian said:
I just wish this whole ordeal didn't count against my upload limit. I'm now at 7 just because I didn't know standards were raised. *sigh* Sic vita est. (Translation: In such life is)

You can raise your upload limit by uploading better versions of posts with the bvats tag (that have already been approved).
There's even a Firefox add-on that makes it quick and easy:
forum #87369
So many people complain about their upload limit, and we have 13 pages of bvats posts.

ShylokVakarian said:
Also, I passed your critique over to the artist. This was his response:

*hides behind a bulletproof credenza*

How dare he insult GameFAQs like that!

Munkelzahn said:
So many people complain about their upload limit, and we have 13 pages of bvats posts.

Huh. I always thought that tag was used if there was a reason to not use the best version. Good to know.

Dyrone said:
Sounds to me like they are simply understaffed and/or the staff that they do have are inactive or uninterested in approving posts (not a dig on the staff, just saying...it's possible for people to get tired of moderating furry porn)

It is not the job of every staff member to approve pictures. We have a number of staff members who provide other valuable services. I assure you, most of our janitorial staff spends a few hours every day approving or denying posts. (I have been very busy lately with some RL stuff, so have not been active recently)...

But just because a staffmember may, perhaps, seem inactive, does not mean that they do not contribute to the site in otherways.

Nor is there a quota :P

Considering I highly doubt that they pay anything to these people I think they should just open up recruitment for new janitors making it explicit that these janitors would focus their attention in the lacking areas...

hahahah... oh my god.

Sorry sorry, just...

Do you realize that in the last like... half year? we've added, like 3 new janitors? It's not like the administration is just sitting around going "oooh. My toes are pretty. Why aren't there more janitors growing around my toes?" It's that being a janitor on e621 is kind of a big deal.

No, really.

We are one of the biggest furry sites out there. There are some people who will use being a janitor here as an excuse to inflate their own ego and appearance. there are a LOT of people that will do that. There is no shortage of people who message us--regularly-- and say they want to be a janitor, but clearly have no real familiarity with the site. Like, we haven't even heard of most of these people , because they've posted 6 pictures, edited 15 tags and left 30 comments. They just want to say that they're PART OF THE e621 STAFF and use that to preen and polish their feathers.

And that's really the kick. Each janitor is picked because we've illustrated that we are very familiar and comfortable with the site's rules. We understand how the site works. We know what a bad picture looks like or a good picture. we know good tagging when we see it. We are generally pretty levelheaded and calm individuals who are not going to flip out if annoyed by, say, someone screaming because we deleted their MSPaint doodles.

A potential good janitor will be obvious just because they are participating on the site and generally making a good impression. Gosh, I promise, we're always paying attention to who is aware of how the site is supposed to work, and doing our best to keep track of them.

Because you don't want random Bob McFurryson becoming a janitor and deleting things because "eeew" or "I don't like that person" or whatever. This isn't like a forum where, generally speaking, the role that staff has is to say "hey, stop arguing guys." and scolding anyone who misbehaves. a janitor's got a whole lot more going on.

Believe me, I've done both. Being a Forum-moderator is pretty light weight compared to this.

25 days to get an image approved just seems too damn long...protip: if you want people to use your site don't keep them waiting for 3+ weeks.

"no digs on the staff" huh? :p

Fine, let me get you some friendly numbers. As a note, I am grabbing these from the site RIGHT now, so people are uploading and pictures are being approved as we speak. This, as well as some quirks of the searching system, will explain any discrepancies with my numbers. (as well as me counting manually :P)

In the moderation queue:

• 362 posts are from today date:2018-10-23 status:pending
• 285 are from yesterday date:2018-10-22 status:pending
• 968 are from this week. date:week status:pending This number includes the 647 from today and yesterday. ...So: in the 5 days AFTER today and yesterday, there are 321 in the queue, or about 60 a day.
• 572 are from the previous 3 weeks-ish date:week..month status:pending ... around 27 a day.

Orrrrrr if you'd like to do this differently:

As you can see, within 3 days, the vast majority of the posts are approved, leaving somewhere between 15 and 40 posts remaining. The average number of posts remaining goes down each week, suggesting that they are still being sorted through.

With such... consistent results, we either have a spectacularly consistent hole (I don't even know how this would begin to happen, honestly) or the truth is that of the thousand some odd posts we have posted each day, about 20-30 are "tricky" enough that no one is willing to make a ruling on it.

so yeah. Most people wait something like 3 days, not 3 weeks.

(edit: Grammar and clarification in a few stops)

ShylokVakarian said:
Not exactly a happy ending for my posts, but at least NMNY did SOMETHING about them (So good on them for giving into my whining and delivering the coup de grace, I guess). I just wish this whole ordeal didn't count against my upload limit. I'm now at 7 just because I didn't know standards were raised. *sigh* Sic vita est. (Translation: In such life is)

Sorry.... but it shouldn't take too much effort to get it back up -- and if it ever gets restrictively small, In most cases, a polite request can get your max upload limit readjusted for you. Just post good stuff--with permission :)

Trust me, you'd know if you were looking at something I drew, because you'd be trying to claw out your eyeballs. There's a reason I don't draw anymore, mainly because my art teacher never had drawing people in her damn curriculum, yet I can draw still life, one-point, and two-point perspectives, and make coil pots out of clay just fine, and even those aren't exactly very good because she liked to focus on painting, the thing I'm the least good at. And she switched from tempera to acrylic once we hit high school, so there goes everything I learned about using tempera paint. Thanks, Ms. McNeely/Schaffer. >.<

Aw, well, high school and lower art classes generally don't focus on some of the trickier stuff -- my high school classes actually focused on new mediums and ideas every 2-3 weeks. The idea was to teach us a lot... but not so much teach us about methodology. Drawing people is HARD. But anyone can learn.

Art is not a magical talent. It's a skill, like any skill it can be learned. bob Ross didn't start painting until he was very firmly an adult, and what he says is basically 100% true: Anyone can do it. It just takes time and learning how to move your hands the right way. it's SKILL. It can be learned. Any human out there can be taught HOW to paint, or draw or create art. People with talent have a little bit of a leg up: but it's also harder for them: they're not used to failing. Failure is part of learning.

Go find a picture of a human and draw it, man. i'ts not that different from a still life.

I know, but I thought that since he was already uploaded several times, I'd've had a pretty good chance of getting these approved. Guess not.

It's normally a pretty good guess, sorry :/

Also, I passed your critique over to the artist. This was his response: ehh. e621 is like the gamefaqs of artists.

Oh dear, I didn't really intend for it to be passed along to the artist -- but if tha'ts his answer, I feel a bit sorry for him. Most of my critique boils down to "needs to pay more attention to anatomy" and someone named muscleartguy REALLY should be paying attention to his anatomy :/

But I mean, I guess that's his prerogative and he's probably making decent money by offering relatively cheap commissions, and if he's happy with where his art is, and what he's getting out of him, that's his dealio. 2 months ago he posted complaining about no one wanting commissions and how he must be a bad artist so, er...

he's welcome to feel how we wants about it, I guess. :) I just would expect someone with that name to google things like "strong arm muscles" before drawing muscles, lol.

ShylokVakarian said:
Huh. I always thought that tag was used if there was a reason to not use the best version. Good to know.

I think it rarely is, but I think we're trying to use another tag for that--I dunno. but most of those can be fixed and uploaded without a problem :D

SnowWolf said:
But I mean, I guess that's his prerogative and he's probably making decent money by offering relatively cheap commissions, and if he's happy with where his art is, and what he's getting out of him, that's his dealio. 2 months ago he posted complaining about no one wanting commissions and how he must be a bad artist so, er...

Very few people make a "decent" amount of money off of commissions. Basically no one makes a "decent" amount of money off of cheap commissions.

SnowWolf said:
massive post

Maybe I was a little hasty with my assumptions. I thought that 3 weeks indicated some sort of larger issue, turns out it was more of an anomaly. At any rate I had never seen public call for more janitors on the site, so for all I knew you were just sitting around *shrug*. Actually, it sounds like that is kinda what you do considering you just wait for potential janitors to come to you. Never thought the janitor position would attract that kind of attention considering...idk...the name is "Janitor"...doesn't sound very prestigious to me.

LoneWolf343 said:
Very few people make a "decent" amount of money off of commissions. Basically no one makes a "decent" amount of money off of cheap commissions.

*shrugs* I have offered cheap commissions in the past and earned some casual spending money for myself. I did not ask for 'enough' money, especially as my commissions became more complex and time consuming, something like 20-30 bucks for 2-3 hours of work, I believe. Cheap, but not pennies. but I was happy with it because I was getting to practice my art while being paid money for it, and was able to turn around and use that money to commission other people--something I had always wanted to do but never had the spare money to do.

If Dude's goal is some spare change, to make people happy, to always have an answer to "what should I create," and so forth, then he might be happy with that money. If someone is trying to pay the bills, that is a totally 100% different story.

we should ALWAYS pay artists a fair and substantial amount -- but not everyone is trying to be a full time artist. I actually have a friend who loves commissiosn because they're basically a flow of sketch prompts for her. :)

Dyrone said:
Maybe I was a little hasty with my assumptions. I thought that 3 weeks indicated some sort of larger issue, turns out it was more of an anomaly. At any rate I had never seen public call for more janitors on the site, so for all I knew you were just sitting around *shrug*.

Nah. There's a lot of busy bees buzzing around all the time.

Actually, it sounds like that is kinda what you do considering you just wait for potential janitors to come to you.

Well, what else can we do? There's a limited number of visitors to the website. Of them, only a small fraction participate on uploading, tagging or anything like that. Of those who do, only a tiny fraction of THEM do it with any regularity. And this is the sort of thing where burn out happens a lot. Of those people, only a few will actually hang around for more than a few months. and it's not like we can take random people and forsce them through e6 bootcamp :P

I mean.

Looking at the 10 day period between Oct 18 and Oct 28, Millcore uploaded 432 pictures -- 5.3% of what had been uploaded in that period. The second place winner had 299 images--3.7%, then 2.5, 1.8 and 1.5%. Most people only upload a few things. There were over 5000 images in that period. most people uploaded only a handful of pictures in 10 days.

Let's look at tag updates:
Millcore did 29.5% of all tag changes.
Furrypickle did 19.5%
Dice did 14.5

but I want to point at that again. 2 people did very nearly 50% of all tag edits in a 10 day period. There were 94,053 tag changes in that time period. Holy shit, bro.

Millcore? Janitor
Furrypickle? Former SDtaff.
Dice? Upgraded to Privileged 3 months ago.
The person in 4th place has had 4 gentle warnings over the last 2 months -- for disobeying TWYS, for being creepy, and a few other minor things including boasting about tagging things.
Person number 5 was responsible for under 1% of tag edits, by the way, but are also privileged.

How baout wiki updates? It's the same names. Dice, Lurkin', Millcore and another. The top 4 make up half of the total wiki updates.

There's a very TINY pool of people to chose from, and we don't want someone who's going to accept the position then get bored and quit 2 weeks later. And, while more staff would be nice, they're not NEEDED. As we established: 3 days.

Never thought the janitor position would attract that kind of attention considering...idk...the name is "Janitor"...doesn't sound very prestigious to me.

It doesn't, but we're part of the staff. and that *is* worth something. especially if you're just lookign for bragging rights. "I am part of the staff over at the biggest furry porn site" is kind of attention getting. People get weird about strange things . I've mentioned it offhandedly to a friend before and gotten ... er... surprising reactions, actually. People are weird :P

Dyrone said:
Maybe I was a little hasty with my assumptions. I thought that 3 weeks indicated some sort of larger issue, turns out it was more of an anomaly. At any rate I had never seen public call for more janitors on the site, so for all I knew you were just sitting around *shrug*. Actually, it sounds like that is kinda what you do considering you just wait for potential janitors to come to you. Never thought the janitor position would attract that kind of attention considering...idk...the name is "Janitor"...doesn't sound very prestigious to me.

On the contrary, janitors are some of the most important people in a school or business. If the janitors don't do their job then a school or business could get shut down or fined for health code violations. We on e6 have a similar job, we clean up the queue. Thankfully we can't get be effected by any health code rules here.

Queen_Tyr'ahnee said:
On the contrary, janitors are some of the most important people in a school or business. If the janitors don't do their job then a school or business could get shut down or fined for health code violations. We on e6 have a similar job, we clean up the queue. Thankfully we can't get be effected by any health code rules here.

Can confirm, am an IRL Janitor. I clean an MU Hospital Clinic.

Also, *affected. e621 was not born out of health code rules, especially considering the art we host tends to completely ignore the health code. :P

ShylokVakarian said:
Can confirm, am an IRL Janitor. I clean an MU Hospital Clinic.

Also, *affected. e621 was not born out of health code rules, especially considering the art we host tends to completely ignore the health code. :P

Dunno there are pretty strict rules for clean linework.