Topic: why is gay/ lesbian anti-blacklisted or anti-taggable?

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There is nothing wrong with it i would rather stop seeing two guys going at it like two sweaty frisky dingos. It's been an issue for years now. it keeps just jumping out at me like "your parents having old bondage sex" and "finding out how hotdogs are made" . i cant just blacklist anal or oral or salad_tossing it's something everyone of both genders enjoys.

If there is a kink out there that only gay men can do . Let me know so i can stop having gay porn sprung on me.

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cybercraft said:
There is nothing wrong with it i would rather stop seeing two guys going at it like two sweaty frisky dingos. It's been an issue for years now. it keeps just jumping out at me like "your parents having old bondage sex" and "finding out how hotdogs are made" . i cant just blacklist anal or oral or salad_tossing it's something everyone of both genders enjoys.

If there is a kink out there that only gay men can do . Let me know so i can stop having gay porn sprung on me.

It isn't unblacklistable or untaggable, it's just aliased to male/male and female/female respectively. Both can be blacklisted just fine.

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as Dice says, "gay" is "male/male" and "lesbian" is "female/female" so blacklist those.

and while you're at it you'll probably also want to blacklist "intersex" so you don't get "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" characters.

we've had threads about it a gazillion times but i still don't get why it can't just be andromorph and gynomorph instead of cuntboy and dickgirl.

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
It isn't unblacklistable or untaggable, it's just aliased to male/male and female/female respectively. Both can be blacklisted just fine.

I have male/male m/m gay homo homosexual and any other letter combo that means two men having sex blacllisted. And yet i am still seeing two or more men going at it on a daily bases. And gay is undable to be added to tags same with lesbian. Then there is picture of post anal sex males leaking thier deposits. How do i go about gender targeting that?

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cybercraft said:
I have male/male m/m gay homo homosexual and any other letter combo that means two men having sex blacllisted. And yet i am still seeing two or more men going at it on a daily bases. And gay is undable to be added to tags same with lesbian. Then there is picture of post anal sex males leaking thier deposits. How do i go about gender targeting that?

You probably are formatting your blacklist incorrectly. Is everything on a separate line? If they're all together, it won't work properly cause then it would blacklist only posts that include all the terms you added at once. Make sure what you want to blacklist is on separate lines, aka hit the enter key to seperate them.

Also if you're wanting to blacklist after sex related male and cum posts that don't necessarily involve two male characters, I'd recommend adding the terms solo male cum_in_ass and solo male cum_from_ass to your blacklist; make sure these are on separate lines.

https://e621.net/help/show/blacklist

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cybercraft said:
I have male/male m/m gay homo homosexual and any other letter combo that means two men having sex blacllisted. And yet i am still seeing two or more men going at it on a daily bases. And gay is undable to be added to tags same with lesbian. Then there is picture of post anal sex males leaking thier deposits. How do i go about gender targeting that?

Do you have your blacklist on one line?
gay solo, for instance, will block all male/male images that are also tagged solo. To continue the example, you have to separate the lines so it looks like
gay
solo
This will blacklist both male/male and solo posts. If you have all your tags on one line, your blacklist won't work.

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cybercraft said:
And gay is undable to be added to tags same with lesbian.

That's what being aliased means. If you write 'gay', the tag added will be 'male/male'; ditto lesbian ->'female/female'. Blacklisting 'male/male' and 'female/female' (each on their own line) is correct.

A simple proof of whether your blacklist is working is to search male/male, and then female/female. If all of the images on both of these pages are blacklisted, then your blacklist is working. I've done this check and it works for me.

The most likely scenario IMO is that the images you are seeing have not yet been tagged male/male (or female/female)

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BlackLicorice said:
as Dice says, "gay" is "male/male" and "lesbian" is "female/female" so blacklist those.

and while you're at it you'll probably also want to blacklist "intersex" so you don't get "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" characters.

we've had threads about it a gazillion times but i still don't get why it can't just be andromorph and gynomorph instead of cuntboy and dickgirl.

I don't have a problem with "cunt boys". That's simple to me they are just flat chested women. Which might get me some hate from people looking for something to whine about. Some men are gay some sexual acts are gay and some post sex things are gay insert lesbian in where required. But isn't moderators there to approve pictures and their tags for the purpose of trolling and hate group related stuff? Couldn't one who was into that sorta stuff just make sure the words where not being used in the wrong way?

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
You probably are formatting your blacklist incorrectly. Is everything on a separate line? If they're all together, it won't work properly cause then it would blacklist only posts that include all the terms you added at once. Make sure what you want to blacklist is on separate lines, aka hit the enter key to seperate them.

Also if you're wanting to blacklist after sex related male and cum posts that don't necessarily involve two male characters, I'd recommend adding the terms solo male cum_in_ass and solo male cum_from_ass to your blacklist; make sure these are on separate lines.

https://e621.net/help/show/blacklist

Cum_from_ass is something both males and females can do. I don't mind it from females..... blocking it blocks both. I don't know now to selectivly blacklist combos. bannana+chocolate+tentacle_monsters.

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If you type "cum_from_ass solo male" on the same line then it blocks pictures that have those 3 tags at the same time. If the picture has cum_from_ass and solo, but does NOT have male, then it is NOT blocked because it does not have all three tags.

If you type tags on separate lines then it blocks all pictures under those tags.

e.g. if you type this:


male/male
female/female
dickgirl

then it blocks ALL male/male pictures, ALL female/female pictures and ALL dickgirls.

But if you type

cum_from_ass male -female

then it will block ALL cum_from_ass that are ALSO male pictures UNLESS they are also tagged female.

I hope this helps you to understand.

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Cool i didn't know that was a thing. I use the "enter" button heavily in my blacklist.

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e621:blacklist has a lot of examples of how the blacklist works :) You might want to give that a read over too.

That said, please please come back and ask for help if you need help. The blacklist is there to make you comfortable and happy, and we want everyone to make use of it :)

So if things are still slipping through the cracks (no pun intended, lol) come on back, and feel free to post your blacklist here for us to look at -- we can probably make it sleek and sexy--for your personal browsing orientation ;)

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BlackLicorice said:
as Dice says, "gay" is "male/male" and "lesbian" is "female/female" so blacklist those.

and while you're at it you'll probably also want to blacklist "intersex" so you don't get "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" characters.

we've had threads about it a gazillion times but i still don't get why it can't just be andromorph and gynomorph instead of cuntboy and dickgirl.

I...I had been searching for ages for a better term for cuntboy that wont make people kneejerk react hate me but nobody ever offered a better solution. Thank you.

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cybercraft said:
Cum_from_ass is something both males and females can do. I don't mind it from females..... blocking it blocks both. I don't know now to selectivly blacklist combos. bannana+chocolate+tentacle_monsters.

Pluses don't work, the blacklist thinks you're trying to blacklist the ONE tag, banana+chocolate+tentacle_monsters, which, if you click on it, you'll realize doesn't exist.

hsauq said:
There's more to a woman's outward appearance than simply having a vagina instead of a penis and testicles.

Cuntboys just tend to be feminine or gender neutral. You may want to add muscular_cuntboy to your blacklist as well, though that will block cuntboys with less masculine shapes. If you don't mind not seeing herms/dickgirls, you might also want to add cuntboy muscular_intersex to a line as well.

These won't block cuntboys with facial hair or non-muscular cuntboys with masculine bone structures but it's unlikely that you'd see something like the images I linked.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cyber meant exactly what he said, as that's how I feel about cuntboys. Got a vagina? Thumbs up. When it's got a penis or bulge, I tend to appreciate it less (though it's not blacklist territory for me on that).

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BlackLicorice said:
we've had threads about it a gazillion times but i still don't get why it can't just be andromorph and gynomorph instead of cuntboy and dickgirl

and while we're at it, "pedomorph" for cubs (i.e. pre-teen characters in sexual situations)

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BlackLicorice said:
we've had threads about it a gazillion times but i still don't get why it can't just be andromorph and gynomorph instead of cuntboy and dickgirl.

Afaik, all the staff want that change. It is more of an issue of not pissing people who can't read off. A major argument is it will break blacklists or they don't want to type gynomorph and instead use cuntboy. None of these arguments are valid as cuntboy would be aliased to gynomorph. If we could make the change without the backlash, we very likely would.

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Chaser said:
A major argument is it will break blacklists or [..]. None of these arguments are valid as cuntboy would be aliased to gynomorph.

.. are you saying the blacklisting code knows about aliases? I didn't think it did.
Or are blacklists automatically updated when an alias is created?

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savageorange said:
.. are you saying the blacklisting code knows about aliases? I didn't think it did.
Or are blacklists automatically updated when an alias is processed?

Pretty sure blacklists work with aliases, except if you are negating a term.

One of the lines I have on my blacklist is humanoid -anthro -feral -pokemon and while the -anthro and -feral terms work fine, the -pokemon term doesn't, such that the search pokemon humanoid -anthro -feral blocks 100% of images via that line.

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Ok, I just tested that by blacklisting pokemon and then searching pokemon. Coming back to my blacklist, it now says "pokémon".

So it seems like what the system does is, when you save your blacklist it applies any aliases (aside from negation as you noted.. ). Which would mean the actual blacklisting script that does the main work doesn't know about aliases, just the server.

So the appropriate response to 'my blacklist doesn't work on the updated tag' objection would be 'just save your blacklist again'?

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malleablecrowbar said:
wow you actually got banned for that

That's more like the latest item in a reasonably consistent history of vaguely -- or not-so-vaguely -- absurdist shitposts.

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Chaser said:
Afaik, all the staff want that change. It is more of an issue of not pissing people who can't read off...

Ah, I understand now.

(btw cuntboy would be andromorph not gynomorph)

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BlackLicorice said:
(btw cuntboy would be andromorph not gynomorph)

My complaint at the time was that I would always forget which one is which, but I could just stick to using the old cuntboy and dickgirl tags and the system would fix it for me.

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YaoiMeowmaster said:
I...I had been searching for ages for a better term for cuntboy that wont make people kneejerk react hate me but nobody ever offered a better solution. Thank you.

Furrin_Gok said:
My complaint at the time was that I would always forget which one is which, but I could just stick to using the old cuntboy and dickgirl tags and the system would fix it for me.

Last I checked, everyone who got involved in the intersex retagging thread still doesn't want to hear anything about it (which is a shame, because I seel like it still needs adressing), but the consensus before the whole thing got shut down seemed to be masculine_intersex and feminine_intersex (with masculine_herm and feminine_herm for herms, which would no longer be part of the intersex umbrella), which you're meant to read "looks like a girl..." (feminine) "...but has the wrong bits between her legs" (intersex).

Shame that didn't end up happenning, though. I keep wanting to make a new thread for it, but I feel like I'd get banned by popular vote if that ended up happenning. You can tell people want it to happen, though, seeing how this isn't the first thread I see getting sidetracked over stuff like this.

Munkelzahn said:
and while we're at it, "pedomorph" for cubs (i.e. pre-teen characters in sexual situations)

I don't see why Munkelzahn got blocked for this, combining the roots pedo- and -morph to describe characters that are "totes over 18, guys" even though they look 12 is legitimate, and certainly not a bannable offense in my eyes.

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Fifteen said:
I don't see why Munkelzahn got blocked for this, combining the roots pedo- and -morph to describe characters that are "totes over 18, guys" even though they look 12 is legitimate, and certainly not a bannable offense in my eyes.

Well, he does have a history of saying inflammatory things that he knows he shouldn't.

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Fifteen said:
I don't see why Munkelzahn got blocked for this, combining the roots pedo- and -morph to describe characters that are "totes over 18, guys" even though they look 12 is legitimate, and certainly not a bannable offense in my eyes.

If they look young they're tagged as young. That tag would be entirely superfluous as it's synonymous to our child. The fact that something is supposedly older than it looks like is also not relevant to tagging at all.

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NotMeNotYou said:
If they look young they're tagged as young. That tag would be entirely superfluous as it's synonymous to our child. The fact that something is supposedly older than it looks like is also not relevant to tagging at all.

Not saying I'd agree with the existance of such a tag, just that I don't think it was meant to be kink-shaming/offensive to anyone and that, as far as tag-coining goes, the name would have made sense.

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Fifteen said:
Not saying I'd agree with the existance of such a tag, just that I don't think it was meant to be kink-shaming/offensive to anyone and that, as far as tag-coining goes, the name would have made sense.

considering Munkelzahn's history of constantly dramabaiting, posting intentionally offensive commentary and shitposting on forums, i really dont believe that it was just a simple honest suggestion...

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My impression was that it was meant to make fun of andromorph/gynomorph by implying that they were obscure, confusing, and worse than the existing tags.

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savageorange said:
My impression was that it was meant to make fun of andromorph/gynomorph by implying that they were obscure, confusing, and worse than the existing tags.

I'm guessing the key words there were "make fun of", and with Munkelzahn's history I'm guessing this is a case of "the straw that broke the camel's back".

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BlackLicorice said:
as Dice says, "gay" is "male/male" and "lesbian" is "female/female" so blacklist those.

and while you're at it you'll probably also want to blacklist "intersex" so you don't get "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" characters.

we've had threads about it a gazillion times but i still don't get why it can't just be andromorph and gynomorph instead of cuntboy and dickgirl.

tfw just gyno (;

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