'kay, so, the tag's wiki entry starts out as "Sexual activity involving urine and peeing in general." Is this meant to say "Sexual activity involving urine...oh, and peeing in general," or is it meant to be interpreted as "Sexual activity involving urine, and also sexual activity involving peeing in general?"

I mean, the dictionary definition-and certainly the definition followed by kinky roleplaying sites/people who are into the kink-is that the urination/playing with pee/whatever needs to have a sexual component to it, to count as watersports, and without a sexual aspect, it's just peeing. Like, pissing yourself in public because you held it just a little too long, isn't watersports. Not unless you're getting aroused by doing so.

But this site has plenty of tags where the rules run differently to the way the words are usually used, so I'm not going to go on making the assumption. Could I get some clarification from staff, please?

Yeah, I think I bumped into this a while ago and didn't have time to check too much into it, but I think the idea is that if someone is urinating normally or if there's e.g. urine on the floor of public toilet, that shouldn't be tagged with watersports, but only with urine and urinating.

But then somehow peeing in pants is considered watersports almost always, even if it's accidental rather than fetishized and regular urinating is also really commonly tagged as watersports as many blacklist that term as they don't want to see urine at all.

Mairo said:
Yeah, I think I bumped into this a while ago and didn't have time to check too much into it, but I think the idea is that if someone is urinating normally or if there's e.g. urine on the floor of public toilet, that shouldn't be tagged with watersports, but only with urine and urinating.

But then somehow peeing in pants is considered watersports almost always, even if it's accidental rather than fetishized and regular urinating is also really commonly tagged as watersports as many blacklist that term as they don't want to see urine at all.

That sounds more like people misstagging it because they don't want to bother blacklisting all the peeing tags. Can we get a staff ruling on this?

...please? I'm trying to make 100% sure I won't be misusing/erroneously removing the tag, going forward...

I also have an image I'm actively in need of a ruling for, at this moment...

I'm not administrator to rule anything, but IMHO: Considering that there are separate tags for bondage and rope, should there be separate tags for watersports for the activity and urine for there to be urine in the image. Perhaps the watersports tag should imply the urine tag. This would also help people finding all images with urine, or just images where people are... "playing watersports".

urielfrys said:
Perhaps the watersports tag should imply the urine tag.

Pretty sure it already does.

But I don't see what that has to do with my question. My question was whether or not things like a character taking a leak in a public place just to relieve themself-having absolutely no sexual context to it-should really be considered watersports.

Jacob said:
Pretty sure it already does.

But I don't see what that has to do with my question. My question was whether or not things like a character taking a leak in a public place just to relieve themself-having absolutely no sexual context to it-should really be considered watersports.

My response to that question was in the last sentence of my comment, although not explicit:

The watersports tag should be used, if the characters in the image appear to be engaged in watersports, such as peeing on each other, or watching each other peeing. It ought to be sexual for at least one of them, although in cases, where it is forced in one way or another, the one finding it sexual may not actually appear in the image.

If the image consists only of urine, or urinating character(s), it should not be tagged as watersports, even though for the viewer it might appear sexual. If the image has the watersports tag, there should be watersports happening within the image, not just between the viewer of the image and the image.

Of course, you can break the fourth wall here and have the character in the image peeing at the viewer (like characters in portraits are often looking_at_viewer), which could cause borderline cases in tagging, if the character is drawn completely innocent and oblivious of the viewer and the image perspective.

A penis is a penis, not penetration by itself.
A urinating character is a urinating character, not watersports by itself.

If a person is interested in all sorts of urinating characters, they should be (theoretically) found by searching "urinating".

A person searching for waterports, using the "watersports" tag for searching, should not be bothered with images with merely urinating characters.

My foundations here are: tag what you see and that urine and urinating alone are not watersports.

The thing is that somebody with the "privileged" status has been consistently tagging things as watersports even though none of them have any sexual component to them, hence my uncertainty. I'd really like somebody from ACTUAL STAFF to chime in and let me know if that's correct or not.

...Is this about me? Because this thread appeared after I readded watersports to one (1) post after you removed it?

If it's about me:
1. Use the goddamn post report function. The tagging abuse report exists for a reason.
2. I tagged it because the image is sexualized and obviously fetishizes urination, and the character seems to be getting off from pissing all over the bed and on her friends (also no, text does not count in this), and I have been under impression that watersports tag covers this
3. Aren't you exaggerating a little with that "consistently tagging" thing, since this is about one singular post's tagging dispute.

kahen_kilon_vittu said:
...Is this about me? Because this thread appeared after I readded watersports to one (1) post after you removed it?

kahen_kilon_vittu said:
If it's about me:
1. Use the goddamn post report function. The tagging abuse report exists for a reason.
2. I tagged it because the image is sexualized and obviously fetishizes urination, and the character seems to be getting off from pissing all over the bed and on her friends (also no, text does not count in this), and I have been under impression that watersports tag covers this
3. Aren't you exaggerating a little with that "consistently tagging" thing, since this is about one singular post's tagging dispute.

Wow. Holy crap, guy, calm down. There's literally no reason to react like you're being personally attacked. All I said was that somebody was re-adding the tag, had you not spoken up, nobody would ever have had any reason to discover I meant you. As for your second post...

1. I'm asking for clarification I can use on ALL posts that get tagged watersports, as well as all that I have removed it from in the past. Reporting one image will be of no help with that.
2. No, it is not sexualized and obviously fetishizing urination, it just takes one glimpse at the character to tell she is massively embarrassed and humiliated about the fact she's wetting the bed. Even without the text, it would be obvious. Point one thing out to me that even hints at her being aroused by this.
3. "Consistently" means "every time a thing happens," so the fact you've added the tag back literally every time I've taken it away, means that it literally counts as consistently.

If I was gonna' publicly call you out personally for poor behavior, I can think of something I'm pretty sure is much worse, that I could do it for.