Topic: Searching for "childofthenight" yields odd results

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When I search for childofthenight while logged in, it displays all posts (like clicking on the Posts link on the main page). But when I run different browser (MS Edge) where I'm logged off, I get "No posts matched your search" as I probably should. Does this happen to anyone else?

Updated by Drkfce0

child appears to be a blacklisted search term, like loli and shota. blame cloudflare.

Updated by anonymous

Blind_Guardian said:
child appears to be a blacklisted search term, like loli and shota. blame cloudflare.

Are there any other search terms that CF has shadowbanned? (for lack of a better term, I know it's not accurate)

Updated by anonymous

Add a space before the search term as a work around for this issue.

Updated by anonymous

Fucking hell. What's next?
Ummm when is anybody going to actually officially look into or do something about this?

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Drkfce0 said:
Fucking hell. What's next?
Ummm when is anybody going to actually officially look into or do something about this?

It's offsite, so there's not really anything to "look into."
Beyond that, the admins like to keep out of anything relating to young content in the first place.

Updated by anonymous

Pretty dumb that it is so overzealous that it even does stuff to things where it's part of a bigger search. It's getting to a new level of stupid at this point

MagnusEffect said:
It's offsite, so there's not really anything to "look into."
Beyond that, the admins like to keep out of anything relating to young content in the first place.

They've never stayed away from most things, otherwise this site with a whole bunch of weird fetishes would not function very well

Updated by anonymous

Today I've noticed similar odd behavior: when I search for doe, the site displays all posts. But this time, it doesn't matter whether I'm logged in or not. Cloudflare causes this, too?

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ConsciousDonkey said:
Today I've noticed similar odd behavior: when I search for doe, the site displays all posts. But this time, it doesn't matter whether I'm logged in or not. Cloudflare causes this, too?

I'm pretty sure you're just confused, doe is aliased to female. A doe search should be identical to a female search.

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JAKXXX3 said:
I'm pretty sure you're just confused, doe is aliased to female. A doe search should be identical to a female search.

That seems a bit odd. Doe typically refers to a female deer or rabbit, not all female things. I understand this site doesn't tag gender-specific terms (buck is similarly not used), but it seems to me aliasing to invalid_tag or making a disambiguation (similar to buck) would be more appropriate than plain female.

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Watsit said:
That seems a bit odd. Doe typically refers to a female deer or rabbit, not all female things. I understand this site doesn't tag gender-specific terms (buck is similarly not used), but it seems to me aliasing to invalid_tag or making a disambiguation (similar to buck) would be more appropriate than plain female.

But there are 21 buck_(*) tags, with some related to major media properties. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that's why buck goes to a disambiguation.
The only doe_(*) above 8 posts is an artist-owned character. But why would an alias to invalid be more beneficial than an alias to female? An image with doe tagged is almost guaranteed to be eligible for the female tag

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MagnusEffect said:
But why would an alias to invalid be more beneficial than an alias to female? An image with doe tagged is almost guaranteed to be eligible for the female tag

Because an image with 'female' tagged wouldn't be almost guaranteed eligible for a 'doe' tag. So when you search for 'doe', getting results for all female-tagged images is less useful than getting an invalid tag. At least with an alias to invalid_tag (or disambiguation), you know its an incorrect tag to use and to use more appropriate tags. But with the alias to female, searches appear broken as it gives almost everything, and tagging a post with it doesn't tell you anything's wrong (other than 'doe' itself not appearing).

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Watsit said:
Because an image with 'female' tagged wouldn't be almost guaranteed eligible for a 'doe' tag. So when you search for 'doe', getting results for all female-tagged images is less useful than getting an invalid tag. At least with an alias to invalid_tag (or disambiguation), you know its an incorrect tag to use and to use more appropriate tags. But with the alias to female, searches appear broken as it gives almost everything, and tagging a post with it doesn't tell you anything's wrong (other than 'doe' itself not appearing).

Literally every single (besides few special cases) unnecessarily gendered tag in this site is aliased to broader tag that covers content that the away aliased tag does not. That is just how it's handled here. The point of aliasing it away is not to ensure that users still can search for content of the invalid tag as easily as possible, but to stop people from using invalid tags while minimizing unnecessary mess to clean when people don't understand how this site's tagging works.

Updated by anonymous

Banning "loli" and "shota" makes sense because those are specific terms with specific meanings. "Child"...that's way too broad.

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LoneWolf343 said:
Banning "loli" and "shota" makes sense because those are specific terms with specific meanings. "Child"...that's way too broad.

It's not e621 (as far as we know) banning those tags/words but CF itself forcing the censorship! How does e621 banning them make sense when they aren't banned here to begin with? (not used but not banned either)

EDIT: oh wait.. Were you just talking about CF themselves? NM then.

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