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Topic: Tag implication: koopa_troopa -> koopa

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

I thought that the koopa tag was specifically for bowser-like characters and not the rest of the "koopa" family

strikerman said:
koopa -bowser -koopalings -bowser_jr. gives a few too many results for that to be the case (besides, that's not how the original series uses the name)

Isn't Koopa originally Bowser's Japanese name?

https://www.mariowiki.com/Koopa_(species)#
Said interpretation has since been rectified, with Koopa being acknowledged to be the Japanese name of Bowser,[3] but the concept of Koopas as a group of turtles in the West remains,[4] while Nintendo in Japan consistently refers to Koopa as the name of Bowser and to the Turtle Tribe (「カメ族」) as the group to which the various turtles belong.

e6's wiki says koopa:
"Refers to Bowser, also known as King Koopa and Bowser Koopa, or otherwise the race of turtle-like creatures from the video game series Super Mario Bros."
It sounds like koopa should be disambiguated, suggesting bowser or one of the various turtle-like creature species (the latter of which implicating koopa_(species) as a catch-all).

watsit said:
Isn't Koopa originally Bowser's Japanese name?

Yes, but the English translation of the series doesn't use "Koopa" that way, and since e621's an English site, please let's follow the English example.

watsit said:
e6's wiki says koopa:
"Refers to Bowser, also known as King Koopa and Bowser Koopa, or otherwise the race of turtle-like creatures from the video game series Super Mario Bros."
It sounds like koopa should be disambiguated, suggesting bowser or one of the various turtle-like creature species (the latter of which implicating koopa_(species) as a catch-all).

As you said, "Koopa" is only Bowser's name in Japanese, and the vast majority of English speakers are going to associate "Koopa" with the broader collection of enemies/species. I think the tag is fine as is, just needs to be rewritten so that it puts more emphasis on the "race of turtle-like creatures" with a note about Bowser.

Well, if koopa isn't meant for what I thought it was then we don't have a tag for an entire species. a species which contains all of the canon characters and also a non-zero amount of OCs.

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