The tag alias #50903 terrorbird -> terror_bird has been rejected.

Reason:

EDIT: The tag alias terrorbird -> terror_bird (forum #305531) has been rejected by @Millcore.

The request would be to join both tag groups and keep it named terror_bird as it's not a closed compound word. Did I put them in the right places?

They are in the right places in the context of your request, but the request itself is invalid. Terrorbird refers to a fictional species and Terror_Bird refers to a real species according to their wiki pages.

gattonero2001 said:
They are in the right places in the context of your request, but the request itself is invalid. Terrorbird refers to a fictional species and Terror_Bird refers to a real species according to their wiki pages.

I probably didn't think about checking that because it seems there are more posts using it incorrectly than terrorbirds that I could notice.
Should I change the tags in pet_foolery's posts featuring terror_birds?

zw3rn4 said:
The request would be to join both tag groups and keep it named terror_bird as it's not a closed compound word. Did I put them in the right places?

The "right place" would be

zw3rn4 said:
The tag alias #50903 terrorbird -> terror_bird has been rejected.

Reason: REASON GOES HERE

gattonero2001 said:
They are in the right places in the context of your request, but the request itself is invalid. Terrorbird refers to a fictional species and Terror_Bird refers to a real species according to their wiki pages.

It looks like the "real" Terror Birds are "Half avian half raptor" anyways? It's a poor way of defining it, but they're effectively more dinosaur-looking avians.

The wiki entered for terrorbird currently seems to be the description of the species, and the mention of the owner of an unnamed character who happens to be a terror bird.

I'd personally say to alias them, and if this fictional species is distinct enough, make a new tag for it with the creator's suffix appended to it. Otherwise it seriously just looks like it's just two tags for the real creature.

I'd say add a suffix to the fictional species, as Vulkalu suggests – terrorbird_(kyreegryphon) or terrorbird_(lucaloo), and then flip the current alias of phorusrhacid -> terror_bird (after all, we alias tags like deer to cervid or bat_(species) to chiropteran). We can then go ahead and let OP's alias go through.

Real phorusrhacids existed in South America long after the impact that killed off all non-avian dinosaurs, with a few migrating into southern North America. They're all bird, not half-bird, and did not run around with/from T-rexes. They lost their ability to fly and evolved a body plan similar to their ancient (and long-extinct) maniraptor cousins like Velociraptor or Deinonychus, and are no more half-raptor than any other bird.

So:

unalias phorasrhacid -> terror_bird
retag all fictional species of terrorbird -> terrorbird_(kyreegryphon) (owner) or terrorbird_(lucaloo) (creator)
retag all other characters as necessary
alias terrorbird to terror_bird or straight to phorusrhacid
alias terror_bird to phorusrhacid
implicate phorusrhacid to cariamiform

clawstripe said:
(after all, we alias tags like deer to cervid or bat_(species) to chiropteran)

...Why do we do that, anyway?

strikerman said:
...Why do we do that, anyway?

Because an admin said so.
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/17956
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/17303
I don't think there was a community discussion about that.

bitwolfy said:
Because an admin said so.
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/17956
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/17303
I don't think there was a community discussion about that.

Maybe we could discuss it. I'd be in favor of going back to the normal names.

vulkalu said:
if this fictional species is distinct enough, make a new tag for it with the creator's suffix appended to it.

clawstripe said:
I'd say add a suffix to the fictional species, as Vulkalu suggests – terrorbird_(kyreegryphon) or terrorbird_(lucaloo)

What fictional species? The terrorbird character is of the non-fictional Terror Bird species.

strikerman said:
...Why do we do that, anyway?

Taxonomy. In other words, a standardized hierarchy of groups that help show relationships between different species. Common names, even ones like deer or bat, can be all over the place. For example, some deer aren't called deer, and there's some species out there that share the same name but aren't closely related (such as American versus European robins). Sure, a bat might be flying mammals, but they can also be called reremice or flying mice, even though they're nowhere near being rodents.

Terms usually are derived from Latin because Latin has traditionally been considered the language of scholars and the educated. It's also a dead language that doesn't change to the extent living ones do, so we can be sure that Cervidae (and thus cervine) will still mean deer a century from now, even if we end up calling them "bunnyhoofers" or something. It also means that a chiropteran refers to the same type of animal whether you call them bats, fledermaus, or kōmori. Furthermore, if we're going to call all dogs and related "canids" and all cats and related "felids", then it stands to reason we ought to do similar for other groups of animals.

It does take getting used to, though, and yes, I had my doubts about the change over. But if people are going to get fussy about standardizing things like X_domination and Y_penetrated (which I have even more doubts about the point of), why not taxonomy?

clawstripe said:
Terms usually are derived from Latin because Latin has traditionally been considered the language of scholars and the educated.

we ain't scholars and educated folk here

furrin_gok said:
What fictional species? The terrorbird character is of the non-fictional Terror Bird species.

Then this alias ought to go through, then, and the wiki needs to be corrected.

I'm suddenly wondering if I'm getting it wrong, and that particular character has nothing to do with the listed copyright. I mean, those images are drawn by pet_foolery or mosquitos_suk, I can't find any connection between them and the names Lucaloo or Kyreegryphon.

However, I'm not seeing anything that especially stands out as an original species. Anything that doesn't represent the skeletons we have for Terror Birds just looks like an anthrofied terror bird.

Edit: A short search found the origin of the myth. It absolutely is just an anthro Terror Bird. The only "copyright" is the character itself, Tucakeane. LucaLoo even made a second one that somebody else purchased. That wiki was wrong from the start.

As of now all non-anthro phorusrhacid posts have been changed to terror_bird. So these tags may be left as they are.

zw3rn4 said:
As of now all non-anthro phorusrhacid posts have been changed to terror_bird. So these tags may be left as they are.

An anthrofied terror bird is still a terror bird. The alias should still go through.