The bulk update request #2191 is active.

remove alias salamander (5972) -> salamander_(disambiguation) (0)
remove alias fire_salamander (211) -> salamander_(disambiguation) (0)
remove alias urodela (0) -> salamander_(amphibian) (3)
remove implication fire_salamander_(salamander) (2) -> salamander_(amphibian) (3)
remove implication salamander_(amphibian) (3) -> amphibian (22880)
remove implication newt (1160) -> salamander_(amphibian) (3)
remove implication giant_salamander (27) -> salamander_(amphibian) (3)
remove implication mole_salamander (2676) -> salamander_(amphibian) (3)
remove implication lungless_salamander (160) -> salamander_(amphibian) (3)

Reason: Currently, there are 52 posts tagged with salamander_(disambiguation). As far as I can tell, ALL of them are just salamanders. This is a pointless disambiguation tag that does nothing but accumulate mistags from people trying to tag something as a regular salamander or fire salamander - and, apparently, nobody is keeping up with these mistags. Also, the redundancy of the tag “fire_salamander_(salamander)” is a bit absurd.

Nobody is going to confuse this actual species with some random character or artist who has “salamander” in their name. Nobody. The only thing that seems to have warranted this disambiguation in the first place is mythological salamander, but I really don’t think that’s worthy of a disambiguation either. the use of that tag is not nearly common enough to cause any major mistagging. And even so, a mythological salamander really is just:

• A regular salamander but with some sort of fire attributes (like a flaming tail or fire breath), in which case the regular salamander tag would still be appropriate, or…
• a fire-breathing lizard or dragon. These should probably just be retagged as lizard or dragon + fire breathing, no?

I’m not even sure we need the mythological salamander tag since it’s not a separate mythological species - it’s just a real species given mythological characteristics - but I’ll leave it for now.

Followup BUR:
update salamander_(disambiguation) -> salamander alias salamander_(amphibian) -> salamander alias fire_salamander_(salamander) -> fire_salamander alias urodela -> salamander imply salamander -> amphibian imply fire_salamander -> salamander imply newt -> salamander imply giant_salamander -> salamander imply mole_salamander -> salamander imply lungless_salamander -> salamander

EDIT: The bulk update request #2191 (forum #330039) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

scaliespe said:
Followup BUR:
alias salamander_(disambiguation) -> salamander alias salamander_(amphibian) -> salamander alias fire_salamander_(salamander) -> fire_salamander

I think these would be fine as a mass update. Few people are going to keep tagging salamander_(disambiguation) or the others.

watsit said:
I think these would be fine as a mass update. Few people are going to keep tagging salamander_(disambiguation) or the others.

Well, some people might be using these tags in blacklists/saved searches, so this would allow the previous tags to continue functioning, while a mass update will break them.

But now that you mention it, aliasing salamander_(disambiguation) might interfere with people searching *_(disambiguation) for tag cleanup purposes, as it may return all salamander posts in the results. I’ll change that one.

The bulk update request #2191 (forum #330039) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

The bulk update request #5245 is active.

mass update salamander_(disambiguation) -> salamander
create alias salamander_(amphibian) (3) -> salamander (5972)
create alias fire_salamander_(salamander) (2) -> fire_salamander (211)
create alias urodela (0) -> salamander (5972)
create implication salamander (5972) -> amphibian (22880)
create implication fire_salamander (211) -> salamander (5972)
create implication newt (1160) -> salamander (5972)
create implication giant_salamander (27) -> salamander (5972)
create implication mole_salamander (2676) -> salamander (5972)
create implication lungless_salamander (160) -> salamander (5972)

Reason: Followup

EDIT: The bulk update request #5245 (forum #371312) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

scaliespe said:
The bulk update request #5245 is active.

mass update salamander_(disambiguation) -> salamander
create alias salamander_(amphibian) (3) -> salamander (5972)
create alias fire_salamander_(salamander) (2) -> fire_salamander (211)
create alias urodela (0) -> salamander (5972)
create implication salamander (5972) -> amphibian (22880)
create implication fire_salamander (211) -> salamander (5972)
create implication newt (1160) -> salamander (5972)
create implication giant_salamander (27) -> salamander (5972)
create implication mole_salamander (2676) -> salamander (5972)
create implication lungless_salamander (160) -> salamander (5972)

Reason: Followup

Fantastic!

I've just created a wiki entry for salamander. Other users are welcome to build upon it as well.

If the simplified amphibian tree on that page is useful, I can copy it over to the amphibian, frog, caecilian, and other wiki pages alongside other general improvements.

The bulk update request #5245 (forum #371312) has been approved by @gattonero2001.