The bulk update request #3540 is active.

change category crack_ship (209) -> invalid
change category crack_pairing (0) -> invalid

Reason:

A crack ship is a ship that is highly ridiculous, bizarre, disturbing, and/or unlikely to ever become canon.

There is no universe in which the application of this tag is not going to cause flamewars. The subjectivity is built right into its definition. The validity or otherwise of certain ships is a touchy enough subject in fandom as it is.

EDIT: The bulk update request #3540 (forum #349789) has been approved by @slyroon.

+1
The description implies that these ships would be between characters within the same canon (which would be too subjective for a tag), but 99% of the posts are crossovers, which would be the only "objective" "crackships". I wonder if something like crossover_couple would be a useful tag for crossovers where characters are romantically or sexually involved with each other.

Mm. Would this be useful instead as a lore tag? We probably shouldnt have this but if people use it. It could be handy to keep around in some form?

demesejha said:
Mm. Would this be useful instead as a lore tag? We probably shouldnt have this but if people use it. It could be handy to keep around in some form?

The problem with crack ship is that it's pretty subjective, it could be used to tag characters from the same franchise that the uploader just feels showing together as a "ship" is weird, defying canon or "disturbing". In practice though, it's almost entirely used for crossover ships.

If there's a useful tag to pull out of this, it should be something like crossover_ship, crossover_relations, crossover_relationship, or crossover_couple for any crossover where two (or more) characters from different pieces of media are engaging in romantic or sexual relations with each other, as opposed to a crossover where there are two couples from different media shown together.

maplebytes said:

The problem with crack ship is that it's pretty subjective, it could be used to tag characters from the same franchise that the uploader just feels showing together as a "ship" is weird, defying canon or "disturbing". In practice though, it's almost entirely used for crossover ships.

If there's a useful tag to pull out of this, it should be something like crossover_ship, crossover_relations, crossover_relationship, or crossover_couple for any crossover where two (or more) characters from different pieces of media are engaging in romantic or sexual relations with each other, as opposed to a crossover where there are two couples from different media shown together.

Good idea. I remember back in the time when lemon meant sex that crack ship was just "two characters who never interact but noe they do"

From the examples, im not sure that has changed at all. But if Crossover is more useful then thats where this should go

maplebytes said:
If there's a useful tag to pull out of this, it should be something like crossover_ship, crossover_relations, crossover_relationship, or crossover_couple for any crossover where two (or more) characters from different pieces of media are engaging in romantic or sexual relations with each other, as opposed to a crossover where there are two couples from different media shown together.

Isn't that largely covered by crossover -rating:s or crossover romantic? Seems it would be highly redundant.

I agree that just the crossover definition is inadequate. When someone first told me the term years ago, they gave me an archetypical example of Jayfeather × Stick, which is within one series.

The definition they were trying to get at was "pairing meant as a joke", but I'm not sure how common a definition that is and it probably isn't a taggable concept anyway.

You mean this has to with with relationships and not sea-going vessels?! :o

I have to agree that this should be invalidated. A particular relationship might seem the height of absurdity, as if suggested by some brain-damaged crack addict, but if there's something I've noticed about these things, there's always someone out there who will take it seriously and think it isn't absurd or a joke. They wouldn't necessarily be wrong. Some might once have considered a GadgetxZipper pairing to be a crack ship, but it's canon now. It's best to leave relationship pairings out of tagging as they're TWYK more than TWYS.

lendrimujina said:
I agree that just the crossover definition is inadequate. When someone first told me the term years ago, they gave me an archetypical example of Jayfeather × Stick, which is within one series.

The definition they were trying to get at was "pairing meant as a joke", but I'm not sure how common a definition that is and it probably isn't a taggable concept anyway.

Pairing meant as a joke or extremely bizarre was largely the original definition I think.

Update: Discovered the crack_pairing tag is also in use and should be invalidated for the same reason.

crack_pairing can probably just be aliased to crack_ship, that way there's only 1 tag to clean up.

+1
I think if people still wanna categorize weird ass ships, they could create a set, if there isn't one already.

The bulk update request #3540 (forum #349789) has been approved by @slyroon.

The bulk update request #6257 is active.

create alias crack_pairing (0) -> crack_ship (209)

Reason: Might as well consolidate them to one tag for easier cleanup, like Faucet said

EDIT: The bulk update request #6257 (forum #387205) has been approved by @slyroon.

The bulk update request #6257 (forum #387205) has been approved by @slyroon.