Topic: New e621 interface

Posted under General

walkingspaghett said:
Yes that's what I want, can you send what to put in CSS?

This is what shifts the icons to the right, but i have other css acting on the two icons (and one of them is a size increase, so for you it might not obscure it fully)

.nav-controls > a > span {position:relative; right:290px}

In that case, you might want to make the e6 logo disappear altogether

.nav-logo a.nav-logo-link {display:none}

or shift it to the right

.nav-logo a.nav-logo-link {position:relative; left:290px}

(modify the numerical values to suit your needs)

snpthecat said:
This is what shifts the icons to the right, but i have other css acting on the two icons (and one of them is a size increase, so for you it might not obscure it fully)

.nav-controls > a > span {position:relative; right:290px}

In that case, you might want to make the e6 logo disappear altogether

.nav-logo a.nav-logo-link {display:none}

or shift it to the right

.nav-logo a.nav-logo-link {position:relative; left:290px}

(modify the numerical values to suit your needs)

Using these methods can we bring back what this site used to look like back when it looked good to use before the unnecessary changes for the sake of change? Besides only coming here from the wayback machine that is.

I already understand the feedback is kinda pointless since we stuck with this regardless of how we feel :)

casmin7~ said:
Using these methods can we bring back what this site used to look like back when it looked good to use before the unnecessary changes for the sake of change? Besides only coming here from the wayback machine that is.

you can certainly try
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gleeful_geko said:
This constant need to "update" things is a disease.

Yes, it's a disease! And then people (admins...) wonder why there are always so many complaints when they change something that works...

*Admin: adds a bunch of new pointless buttons*
*Me: right click, block. lol*

Changes are good? No, not if you are forced into them!

thorax1212 said:
Changes are good? No, not if you are forced into them!

this is an untenable statement. you can't keep supporting old versions forever.

and also, this isn't Audacity suddenly deciding that they want their entire UI to look worse and be less intuitive, this isn't Windows 11 deciding to change a several bits of shape language and also trying to look like OSX for some reason.

this is changing a hamburger menu on the mobile site so that it works like a hamburger menu normally does, the theme selection button being moved back to the top of the page with a link to settings next to it, and a couple other buttons that you could easily just { display: none; }.

This has been getting worse, it was easy to ignore at first, but they have been updating it repeatedly as of late and not only it looks a lot worse, but is it just me or is...the site struggling to load now? Every page now has a five or seven seconds to load which is nearly double or three times as long as it used to be.
Also that massive thing at the bottom is needlessly bulky.

somerandomvoir said:
This has been getting worse, it was easy to ignore at first, but they have been updating it repeatedly as of late and not only it looks a lot worse, but is it just me or is...the site struggling to load now? Every page now has a five or seven seconds to load which is nearly double or three times as long as it used to be.
Also that massive thing at the bottom is needlessly bulky.

The site loading slower is unrelated.

I'm fine with the changes personally. I like the new footer (especially that it has the version that's running) and the new profile pic icon at the top is nice. I primarily use desktop and the re621 script. Once a few quirks are ironed out and re621 isn't broken every couple weeks, I'm all for the UI updates. Main thing is that basically everything still works in my experience.

More themes plox? :) lol

new theme looks pretty good to me at least. page numbers are easier to click though for example. but the text on the footer is quite large meaning so your eye always drifts to it...

I feel like people are getting too upset over this. Yes, it does suck that this was forced without any warning. Yes, the website has been altered in some negative ways. But… this?? This is your reaction? I just feel like people are being a bit too harsh over some inconveniences that can easily be fixed with a couple lines of CSS.

masterkingkoco said:
I feel like people are getting too upset over this. Yes, it does suck that this was forced without any warning. Yes, the website has been altered in some negative ways. But… this?? This is your reaction? I just feel like people are being a bit too harsh over some inconveniences that can easily be fixed with a couple lines of CSS.

Not everyone knows how to code: even at all.

dba_afish said:
CSS isn't coding

To be fair the people who don't know how to code won't know the difference between the two, and one is much more difficult to start than the other

dba_afish said:
CSS isn't coding

To a point css can be, there's an old retired discord lib that was made in css (which had to be transpired to be used, but so does typescript so kinda similar)

It's very obscure and hard to find (and abandoned), I can't find it at this exact moment

temp7 said:
Not everyone knows how to code: even at all.

Even many people that know programming are terrible at css (source: me), but simple tutorials and chatgpt can fill gaps

After using it for a bit I'm not too bothered by it except for not being able to sign in directly from the home page anymore

adamb_t2oa said:
After using it for a bit I'm not too bothered by it except for not being able to sign in directly from the home page anymore

Wdym, you still can

dba_afish said:
on desktop the button is there but it's invisible for some reason.

... what?
Apparently, it's an issue on the desktop site if you have the window at a very low resolution.

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cinder said:
... what?

yep, there's a clickbox on the right side of the menu, but no viauals to indicate it, only noticed it was there because I moused over the area when testing some stuff on the laptop and the cursor changed.

and, I mean, it's definitely not my CSS causing it because-- y'know, not logged in.

dba_afish said:
yep, there's a clickbox on the right side of the menu, but no viauals to indicate it, only noticed it was there because I moused over the area when testing some stuff on the laptop and the cursor changed.

and, I mean, it's definitely not my CSS causing it because-- y'know, not logged in.

Yes, as I said already, seems to be an issue on the desktop site at low resolutions.

I found a bug, it seems that the max posts per page is 110 now, I have it set to 250 but it stops at 110
I'm on mobile

And yeah there is a longer load time now

snpthecat said:
How many posts does this show limit:320
and what about this limit:250
and this limit:110

.. I don't think you can specify limit that way.
At least, I checked the 110 search, and it definitely had more than 110 items.

Specifying limit this way: https://e621.net/posts?limit=6
is the canonical way. I think there is no way to do that with the standard {{tags in search}} DText format.

Here's the links in that format:

https://e621.net/posts?limit=320
https://e621.net/posts?limit=250
https://e621.net/posts?limit=110

(also, I'm not totally sure, but I thought max limit was lowered from 320 to 250, so setting limit=320 might not return 320 posts?)

savageorange said:
.. I don't think you can specify limit that way.
At least, I checked the 110 search, and it definitely had more than 110 items.

Specifying limit this way: https://e621.net/posts?limit=6
is the canonical way. I think there is no way to do that with the standard {{tags in search}} DText format.

Here's the links in that format:

https://e621.net/posts?limit=320
https://e621.net/posts?limit=250
https://e621.net/posts?limit=110

(also, I'm not totally sure, but I thought max limit was lowered from 320 to 250, so setting limit=320 might not return 320 posts?)

You can. See e621:cheatsheet for (almost) everything you need to know about searching
Lemme give you something much more obvious limit:1

The limit in the settings is capped at 250, but you can always increase it to 320 manually. This goes for search and elsewhere.

snpthecat said:
You can. See e621:cheatsheet for (almost) everything you need to know about searching
Lemme give you something much more obvious limit:1

The limit in the settings is capped at 250, but you can always increase it to 320 manually. This goes for search and elsewhere.

Looks like this is a re621 bug (?) then. Without re621, limit:110 does return 110 results.

savageorange said:
Looks like this is a re621 bug (?) then. Without re621, limit:110 does return 110 results.

RE621 has infinite scroll. Each page would still have 110 items, but it loads more pages dynamically.

scth said:
RE621 has infinite scroll. Each page would still have 110 items, but it loads more pages dynamically.

I know this. Nevertheless, it's normally possible to scroll to the last item before triggering the items from next page to appear. It's not at all difficult to do, although I suppose something could have changed recently.

savageorange said:
I know this. Nevertheless, it's normally possible to scroll to the last item before triggering the items from next page to appear. It's not at all difficult to do, although I suppose something could have changed recently.

It works fine with re621 though? the limit:1 search makes it obvious, and I checked limit:110 as well.

scth said:
It works fine with re621 though? the limit:1 search makes it obvious, and I checked limit:110 as well.

I agree that limit:1 returns correct # of results.
I do not agree that limit:110 returns correct # of results, but I'm also not that fussed that I'm going to manually recount.
(my programmatic count of a freshly-loaded limit:110 page returned 500, which isn't helpful; I guess it tries to preload post data before actually rendering it onto the page.)

savageorange said:
I agree that limit:1 returns correct # of results.
I do not agree that limit:110 returns correct # of results, but I'm also not that fussed that I'm going to manually recount.
(my programmatic count of a freshly-loaded limit:110 page returned 500, which isn't helpful; I guess it tries to preload post data before actually rendering it onto the page.)

Regardless of what the issue is this is an issue with re6 and not the site, and it should be taken to the topic for re6: topic #25872

The limit metatag works perfectly in the base site (note that if you specify both the metatag and query param the query param takes precedence)

dba_afish said:
uhh... how many things are being hidden by the blacklist?

Right now it's 119 on the recent posts but it's supposed to still replace blacklisted posts with ones that aren't

walkingspaghett said:
Right now it's 119 on the recent posts but it's supposed to still replace blacklisted posts with ones that aren't

no, blacklisted posts still get called with the search and they still take up the page limit, all that the blacklist does is hide them from view.

https://e621.net/users/home

Where is the button for this page now?

I like it since it kept every option in one spot, and I've been looking around it just doesn't exist in the UI?
The page is still accessible and everything still works, but seeing the ui changes (since i kept the users/home page bookmarked) just makes me really confused, especially since buttons are in wildy different locations depending on what tab is open.

Is it being deprecated? Because the only place I could find it is one little tiny link in the FAQ section (https://e621.net/wiki_pages/16) in the "How can I change my Username" section.

tarrgon said:
Funny joke, any UI change to people using the site for 15 years is gonna generate plenty of complaints just because change is evil when it comes to users and UI, despite how old and not intuitive the UI is.

Like when Reddit did it's redesign into a more modern UI, but they have to serve the old one to a dwindling user base of people that were too annoyed to work with the change (though at one point the concern for it being slower on older hardware was actually a potential issue, but holding back for 20 year old hardware is really stupid). It's honestly one of the most annoying things to see as a dev because it makes it impossible to actually make change that will benefit new users, and not anger existing users.

I, for one, am completely on board with a full redesign of the site from the ground up, which I'm aware is very unlikely to ever happen, but small modernizations are completely fine with me to at least bring it into this decade.

TBF, the Reddit redesign from several years back was god awful. But Reddit UI has always been something not designed for people like me. Old one was pretty bad, too. ;)

I'm still getting used to multiple lines in the search box. I mean, that fixes a major usability issue on smaller screens, especially mobile! I'm currently searching for the CSS to restore hover. That's the one breaking change for my workflow.

alphamule said:

I'm currently searching for the CSS to restore hover. That's the one breaking change for my workflow.

You've not been looking particularly hard, given how the solution has been plastered over the forums for over 3 months now

snpthecat said:
You've not been looking particularly hard, given how the solution has been plastered over the forums for over 3 months now

3 months? God, it's been that long? Of course, been not so actively since then. XD
I searched for 'hover' in forums, and scrolled all the way through 3 topics, and didn't see it.

It was the 4th topic I saw:

article img {
  pointer-events: unset;
}

The Wiki excerpt thing reminds me of a feature request for making tag definitions more visible. Neat!

Funny thing about mobile fixes... I prefer Wolf's Stash for tiny screens. But most of the Android clients don't make comments or forum access very convenient if even available.

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alphamule said:
I'm still getting used to multiple lines in the search box. I mean, that fixes a major usability issue on smaller screens, especially mobile!

the search box is generally going to be way larger on mobile than it is on desktop, actually. the box on mobile spans almost the whole screen width, whereas on desktop it's a small box with a set ~14em width.

dba_afish said:
the search box is generally going to be way larger on mobile than it is on desktop, actually. the box on mobile spans almost the whole screen width, whereas on desktop it's a small box with a set ~14em width.

Hmm, I had used other sites and just assumed e621 was similar on phones? I mean, I don't remember how long it's been since using the mobile version of the site.

chaoscontrl said:
My first thought with the new blatantly huge search bar was that I was put in a mobile mode on desktop. Imagine my surprise when mobile mode On/Off does apparently nothing different. And now the search bar with tags is its own panel that can be anchored to... nothing? Or put fullscreen which takes the whole 2160px of my monitor. Not to mention the search "panel" is being overlapped by the main panel, which gives the whole UI a feeling of weirdness.

I like new stuff, but that's not it. If you want to make a mobile-friendly UI/UX leave it to the mobile world only. Desktop did not need any new stuff like those displayed. Also isn't there a limit for search tags anyways? Wouldn't displaying the number of remaining tags be a better UI update than all this?

The whole website went from feeling like a very saucy an archive to someone's web design college project. It felt structured before, and now it feels uncertain.

I still am looking for what that anchor is supposed to do

thyne said:
I still am looking for what that anchor is supposed to do

it makes the element that contains the search box sticky, meaning it'll stay on screen as you scroll down the page.

The new UI is considerably less intuitive, even something as simple as getting my API key has me running in circles. Couldn't they have just made the old UI more mobile friendily?

katesweaty said:
The new UI is considerably less intuitive, even something as simple as getting my API key has me running in circles. Couldn't they have just made the old UI more mobile friendily?

It literally says API Key (Generate) on your profile.

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Former Staff

snpthecat said:
It literally says API Key (Generate) on your profile.

and that's been there unchanged for the last 3 years

Not sure if it's an issue on my phone, but logging in forces me to use the Desktop UI for some reason... The UI is normally when logged out, but as soom as I log in it shows me the Desktop mode (and yes, the "Desktop Site" option on the browser is off, and turning it on or off does nothing.)

jadejuno said:
Not sure if it's an issue on my phone, but logging in forces me to use the Desktop UI for some reason... The UI is normally when logged out, but as soom as I log in it shows me the Desktop mode (and yes, the "Desktop Site" option on the browser is off, and turning it on or off does nothing.)

does clicking on this fix it?

New changes dropped, and our profiles are gonna drastically change in the next update

snpthecat said:
New changes dropped, and our profiles are gonna drastically change in the next update

aww, the on <#> posts is gone. I really liked having a link to all of the posts I'd commented on with them order:comment_bumped.

dba_afish said:
aww, the on <#> posts is gone. I really liked having a link to all of the posts I'd commented on with them order:comment_bumped.

Damn I didn't notice that. Cinder can we have those back please
and the posts pending and replacements pending and the notes on posts

also, it should default to the stats page, at least when you're clicking on your own profile button. the about section isn't usually going to be really all that useful for yourself most of the time.

EDIT: also the avatar being forced to be a square means that some user's avatars are cropped awkwardly. for example: the top of spe's head gets obliterated.

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Some genuine feedback: Clicking on a tag whose wiki page starts with a collapsible box just results in an empty box at the top. Example

Also as long as we're trying to reduce the number of clicks to get to places, can we do something similar for accessing one of our sets? Right now it takes four whole clicks: "Sets", "Mine", the name, and "View Posts."

I don’t know if I’m truly the minority here but I’m not a fan. The older one was easier for me to manage.

snpthecat said:
You've had a profile crashing number of favourites for several years now, one would assume you've encountered it before

I mean, I have a TON of favorites and have been here for about 7 or 8 years, but I still can’t remember how dtext works. I always have to go back to the help section to remember it. Stuff like this is more common than you may think.

Heck, it wasn’t until about a year or two ago that I figured out this website has a forum page. I thought it was just images and comments for the longest time.

lankylank said:
I mean, I have a TON of favorites and have been here for about 7 or 8 years, but I still can’t remember how dtext works. I always have to go back to the help section to remember it. Stuff like this is more common than you may think.

I'm not asking for them to know how something works, i was expecting that they would've visited their profile in the years they have more than 50k favs

I was going to make a snide remark that we can't expect people who've been on this site for years to be able to read, but it's too close to the truth to be a joke

lankylank said:
I don’t know if I’m truly the minority here but I’m not a fan. The older one was easier for me to manage.

Same.

cinder said:
The only things present on the account home page right now that are missing from the profile page are the links for dealing with sets.
But those should be fairly easily accessible from the sets index, which is the exact same number of clicks away.

Can you please add our owned set to our profile pages. It is useful to have everything we own in the same place. For example to switch between our favorites and our sets. Or for users to know than they can create set for themself.

If it was me, I would place this in the user stats section, just under Favorites.

I like the easy access to my sets, this is pretty great. While yeah it takes another click to get to profile, i'm not particularly concerned about that

While the new site layout has a few improvements in the user control panel, I can't seem to find the list of pending posts anymore, only seeing the number of pending posts instead of the exact posts which was super helpful to me when doing mass archives of artwork here.

I also wish I could customize the layout and location of some links, mainly the reverse image search function as that's one of my most used features on here rn.