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Mine and Dash by Derpixon is really popular, Derpixon doesn’t seem to be on the avoid posting list, and art of the characters with no alterations have been approved and posted under the humanoid tag.
I’m just confused on why such a popular thing isn’t already on here when it was first made years ago.
Not every interpretation of a character will pass our rules for posting. Just because there's other art of them accepted doesn't necessarily mean all art will be. This was already uploaded once and was deleted:
https://e621.net/posts/2838665
tarrgon said:
Not every interpretation of a character will pass our rules for posting. Just because there's other art of them accepted doesn't necessarily mean all art will be. This was already uploaded once and was deleted:
https://e621.net/posts/2838665
I’m just struggling to understand why that’s deleted and not something like these:
https://e621.net/posts/4464557
https://e621.net/posts/2925967
What makes these posts “relevant to e621” but not the original? They are all non-furry posts.
I just don’t get it, it doesn’t really make sense to me.
secretsnake said:
I’m just struggling to understand why that’s deleted and not something like these:https://e621.net/posts/4464557
https://e621.net/posts/2925967What makes these posts “relevant to e621” but not the original? They are all non-furry posts.
I just don’t get it, it doesn’t really make sense to me.
You're completely right. After talking with some other janitors, we've decided that these posts should also be deleted.
I've seen things a lot less humanlike than this — like, things that couldn't even be reasonably mistaken for a highly-stylized human — being deleted for "human only" before.
If you want a humanoid character on e6, give 'em pointy ears. That's the only thing they take into consideration./s
lendrimujina said:
I've seen things a lot less humanlike than this — like, things that couldn't even be reasonably mistaken for a highly-stylized human — being deleted for "human only" before.If you want a humanoid character on e6, give 'em pointy ears. That's the only thing they take into consideration./s
You can also get away with horned_humanoid by wearing a headpiece that is blatantly obviously part of a hat or mask, like Mt. Lady lol
secretsnake said:
I’m just struggling to understand why that’s deleted and not something like these:https://e621.net/posts/4464557
https://e621.net/posts/2925967What makes these posts “relevant to e621” but not the original? They are all non-furry posts.
I just don’t get it, it doesn’t really make sense to me.
The simple answer is that human-only posts irregularly make their way on the site and don't get caught by janitors. Purely coincidental
lendrimujina said:
I've seen things a lot less humanlike than this — like, things that couldn't even be reasonably mistaken for a highly-stylized human — being deleted for "human only" before.If you want a humanoid character on e6, give 'em pointy ears. That's the only thing they take into consideration./s
Yeah that’s one thing I’ll genuinely never understand about this site. Elves and Hylians are fair game when in most cases it’s just a person with pointy ears.
Meanwhile something vaguely humanoid with no discernible features pointing to what exactly they are (in this case, the mimes from Derpixon’s animation)
Seriously we can’t have this but we can have posts of just Link and Zelda? On the furry porn site?
Like, I legitimately thought they were dog-girls when I first watched it. I thought their hair was partially floppy ears, plus they have “:3” mouths, and noses that almost look dog-like.
At least e621 bans ai-generated content. R34 doesn’t even do that.
secretsnake said:
Yeah that’s one thing I’ll genuinely never understand about this site. Elves and Hylians are fair game when in most cases it’s just a person with pointy ears.Meanwhile something vaguely humanoid with no discernible features pointing to what exactly they are (in this case, the mimes from Derpixon’s animation)
Seriously we can’t have this but we can have posts of just Link and Zelda? On the furry porn site?
Like, I legitimately thought they were dog-girls when I first watched it. I thought their hair was partially floppy ears, plus they have “:3” mouths, and noses that almost look dog-like.
That rule is enforced arbitrarily
nin10dope said:
That rule is enforced arbitrarily
Yeah, for real. I once had a post with Princess Bubblegum from Adventure Time removed for the same reason of being human only.
secretsnake said:
Yeah, for real. I once had a post with Princess Bubblegum from Adventure Time removed for the same reason of being human only.
Humans with different skin colors are still humans
donovan_dmc said:
Humans with different skin colors are still humans
If we wanna be anal about it she's not a human
nin10dope said:
If we wanna be anal about it she's not a human
According to lore, yes. But remember most people on this site don't know the lore. All they know is what they see in the picture. Thus, we go by TWYS (Tag What You See). If it walks like a human, quacks like a human, and looks like a human, then it's considered human for the purposes for this site, regardless if they're really a 2000-year-old goo dragon disguised as a human.
clawstripe said:
According to lore, yes. But remember most people on this site don't know the lore. All they know is what they see in the picture. Thus, we go by TWYS (Tag What You See). If it walks like a human, quacks like a human, and looks like a human, then it's considered human for the purposes for this site, regardless if they're really a 2000-year-old goo dragon disguised as a human.
lmao yeah no arguments there, I was just teasing DMC
donovan_dmc said:
Humans with different skin colors are still humans
Yeah but how does that not also apply to “humans with pointy ears”?
secretsnake said:
Yeah but how does that not also apply to “humans with pointy ears”?
humanoid pointy ears are a non human feature that can't just be chalked up to art style. If skin colour allowed something to be non human the simpsons would be allowed.
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snpthecat said:
humanoid pointy ears are a non human feature that can't just be chalked up to art style. If skin colour allowed something to be non human the simpsons would be allowed.
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https://e621.net/posts/4374864
Literally just Marge Simpson in a devil costume. Going through Simpsons + not furry tags, there’s lots of stuff there that’s on this site for no reason lol
secretsnake said:
https://e621.net/posts/4374864Literally just Marge Simpson in a devil costume. Going through Simpsons + not furry tags, there’s lots of stuff there that’s on this site for no reason lol
Hmm, I wonder if those wings count as a costume, time to get a second viewpoint
secretsnake said:
https://e621.net/posts/4374864Literally just Marge Simpson in a devil costume. Going through Simpsons + not furry tags, there’s lots of stuff there that’s on this site for no reason lol
As far as can be told by looking at the picture, those horns, probably the wings and the animated tail, are a part of her body. You could say that the approver chose to err on the side of non-human enough. It's not always easy for an approver to decide. In this case, knowing the lore can be a disadvantage.
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snpthecat said:
humanoid pointy ears are a non human feature that can't just be chalked up to art style. If skin colour allowed something to be non human the simpsons would be allowed.
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I'd argue that in cases like The Legend of Zelda, it is art style. There are no humanoids that don't have pointy ears in that franchise.
lendrimujina said:
I'd argue that in cases like The Legend of Zelda, it is art style. There are no humanoids that don't have pointy ears in that franchise.
By definition, having pointy ears makes them humanoid. But there are times when a character doesn't have pointy ears:
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/2/23/OoT_Ganondorf_Artwork.png/revision/latest?cb=20170511000432
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/3/35/Capture_d%E2%80%99%C3%A9cran_2023-05-22_%C3%A0_18.52.17.png/revision/latest?cb=20230522170956
when other times the same character does:
Hylians in contrast always have pointy ears, while Gerudo sometimes don't and sometimes do. I'd say that's more of a design choice than a stylistic one.
lendrimujina said:
I'd argue that in cases like The Legend of Zelda, it is art style. There are no humanoids that don't have pointy ears in that franchise.
I think all of the human characters in TP aside from Link have rounded ears. and a couple other games of dubious canonicity.
I'm pretty sure that there's a lore explanation for why they do have pointed ears as well, something about their attachment to the Goddess Hylia.
clawstripe said:
As far as can be told by looking at the picture, those horns, probably the wings and the animated tail, are a part of her body. You could say that the approver chose to err on the side of non-human enough. It's not always easy for an approver to decide. In this case, knowing the lore can be a disadvantage.
To be fair I think this is a good argument for why Mime and Dash should be allowed on this site
The main characters (the dude and the twins) are, artistically and appearance-wise, ambiguous enough to not be necessarily designated as humans
One could very easily argue that those are just a humanoid oc race that look like mimes, considering how many other made-up non-furry humanoid species are here
Following TWYS would absolutely allow them, it's the meta knowledge that got them removed
