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When i first started posting here i was filling out all the tag boxes and checking them twice to make sure i got it right. shortly after found out i only need to put tags in the "other tags" box and everything shows up just the same.
So my question is why have so many tag boxes? wouldn't it be cleaner to have a single box and have tag suggestions above or below it?
im just curious on the matter is all.
The separate boxes are mostly just there to act as a form of built-in checklist for the most critical tags
It's easy to tag stuff in depth and then realize you've missed something critical after, and putting stuff in each box means you're at least unlikely to forget the most important stuff
catchoftheday said:
When i first started posting here i was filling out all the tag boxes and checking them twice to make sure i got it right. shortly after found out i only need to put tags in the "other tags" box and everything shows up just the same.So my question is why have so many tag boxes? wouldn't it be cleaner to have a single box and have tag suggestions above or below it?
im just curious on the matter is all.
If you go into settings > advanced settings there's an option for the compact uploader, i find it much more useful, but i think the more complicated one is to help new taggers who might forget the more important tags
It is "complicated" to help guide new uploaders to know what tags they should be tagging (e.g., artist, gender, etc.).
As @Manitka has said, more experienced uploaders can switch to the usual "compact uploader" version via the Advanced Settings page.
scth said:
The separate boxes are mostly just there to act as a form of built-in checklist for the most critical tags
It's easy to tag stuff in depth and then realize you've missed something critical after, and putting stuff in each box means you're at least unlikely to forget the most important stuff
oh neat. i didnt even know that was there. ill be changing that over then.
thegreatwolfgang said:
It is "complicated" to help guide new uploaders to know what tags they should be tagging (e.g., artist, gender, etc.).As @Manitka has said, more experienced uploaders can switch to the usual "compact uploader" version via the Advanced Settings page.
lol well for me it was overwhelming at first, and i already had some experience with danbooru.
Updated
Maybe it speaks to my inexperience but I do prefer this new upload page
The separate tag boxes can be useful when uploading variants of the same picture, such as a clothed and nude versions. I found myself putting all tags that apply to both in the "other" section and unique tags for the uploaded pic in the "Contentious Content" box. Then I copy the common tags before hitting upload, and paste those into the next upload, before adding its unique tags.
catchoftheday said:
When i first started posting here i was filling out all the tag boxes and checking them twice to make sure i got it right. shortly after found out i only need to put tags in the "other tags" box and everything shows up just the same.So my question is why have so many tag boxes? wouldn't it be cleaner to have a single box and have tag suggestions above or below it?
im just curious on the matter is all.
It is the way it is to make sure that you do fill out all the other stuff.
We do want you to tag the artist, species, characters, and so on.
It might not look great, but it improves the site experience for the vast majority of users.
I like it. It makes going through my tagging checklist easier.
Interestingly, this all seems to work when adding tags, right?
set:xxxxxxx (adds)
rating:xxxxxxx (changes)
source:xxxxxxx (adds, doesn't change)
There's tools to do uploads in batches, but hypothetically, a minimized interface for uploads could do these with a single copy and paste from your notes.
I don't think description works this way, though.
alphamule said:
Interestingly, this all seems to work when adding tags, right?
set:xxxxxxx (adds)
rating:xxxxxxx (changes)
source:xxxxxxx (adds, doesn't change)
There's tools to do uploads in batches, but hypothetically, a minimized interface for uploads could do these with a single copy and paste from your notes.
I don't think description works this way, though.
you can clear sources with sources:none
There's also locked:rating, locked:notes, and locked:status, but despite Privileged users being able to lock ratings, this usage is restricted to Janitors
It was likely forgotten about when Privileged users were allowed to lock ratings
There's three places where metatags can make changes to the post:
https://github.com/e621ng/e621ng/blob/46d1c2a5934c4d904d2154b6d369cbbbbd6db54c/app/models/post.rb#L824
https://github.com/e621ng/e621ng/blob/46d1c2a5934c4d904d2154b6d369cbbbbd6db54c/app/models/post.rb#L680
https://github.com/e621ng/e621ng/blob/46d1c2a5934c4d904d2154b6d369cbbbbd6db54c/app/models/post.rb#L728
Indeed none exists for description
Wish we had a version with only the buttons, they are useful when it's something quick, all the text fields are mostly useful casual uploaders but I wish it would only lock showing tags related to their category (showing only names in the artist field, etc).
Still it's a nice interface in both versions and I wish other boorus would be more like it, I just miss just pasting a link and them fetching both the images and descriptions (at least with mastodon links), but adding it here now would be a bit hellish codewise I think lol.
it's unnecessarily complicated because uploading's unnecessarily complicated. don't worry, though, as you upload more and more and get used to it, it eventually becomes a regular kind of complicated.
notknow said:
Wish we had a version with only the buttons, they are useful when it's something quick, all the text fields are mostly useful casual uploaders but I wish it would only lock showing tags related to their category (showing only names in the artist field, etc).Still it's a nice interface in both versions and I wish other boorus would be more like it, I just miss just pasting a link and them fetching both the images and descriptions (at least with mastodon links), but adding it here now would be a bit hellish codewise I think lol.
there is this if you want more toggle buttons.
I'm not sure it'd be possible to create enough buttons to effectively reach the minimum tag requirement without the page having like 800 options.
donovan_dmc said:
you can clear sources with sources:noneThere's also locked:rating, locked:notes, and locked:status, but despite Privileged users being able to lock ratings, this usage is restricted to Janitors
It was likely forgotten about when Privileged users were allowed to lock ratings
There's three places where metatags can make changes to the post:
https://github.com/e621ng/e621ng/blob/46d1c2a5934c4d904d2154b6d369cbbbbd6db54c/app/models/post.rb#L824
https://github.com/e621ng/e621ng/blob/46d1c2a5934c4d904d2154b6d369cbbbbd6db54c/app/models/post.rb#L680
https://github.com/e621ng/e621ng/blob/46d1c2a5934c4d904d2154b6d369cbbbbd6db54c/app/models/post.rb#L728
- parent:none (also parent:0 for some reason), -parent:ID, parent:ID
- rating:[qse] (the longer versions like questionable should also work)
- locked:rating (Janitor+), -locked:rating (Janitor+), locked:notes (Janitor+), -locked:notes (Janitor+), locked:status (Admin+), -locked:status (Admin+)
- source:none, source:TEXT, source:"TEXT"
- newpool:NAME, -pool:ID, -pool:NAME, pool:ID, pool:NAME
- set:ID, -set:ID, set:SHORTNAME, -set:SHORTNAME
- child:none, -child:ID, child:ID
Indeed none exists for description
Dayum, that's a lot of metatags - Thanks, wasn't 100% sure which also worked for this!
dba_afish said:
there is this if you want more toggle buttons.I'm not sure it'd be possible to create enough buttons to effectively reach the minimum tag requirement without the page having like 800 options.
Oh the buttons I mean just "male, female(...)" "solo, duo(...)" "male/female(...)" etc, these are useful for quick uploads, just with one text field, like a "middle of the road" thing layout, very specific I know...
