A User added 45 counts of this tag, admin have already classed it as invalid, however it is part of rape so might be simpler to alias it to such instead of deleaton or invalid_tag

Dude, that's... wait. What's the special flavor of discrimination that applies to country of origin and not race?

GreyMaria said:
Dude, that's... wait. What's the special flavor of discrimination that applies to country of origin and not race?

Stupid?

Also, there are zero counts of that tag so aliasing it to anything would be pointless at this time.

What the hell is wrong with Finnish people? They make an amazing porkkanasosekeitto.

ippiki_ookami said:
What the hell is wrong with Finnish people? They make an amazing porkkanasosekeitto.

English, please?

Huh...when I checked the tag counts it said unwanted_Finnish 45... oh well thanks for the heads up.

You, um, do realize that unwanted_finnish != unwanted_finish, right?

i typo alot... and dont know how to spell alot too... always been a handycap of mine :(

GreyMaria said:
You, um, do realize that unwanted_finnish != unwanted_finish, right?

Ah. That doesn't seem invalid to me. I think that's a good tag.

A good tag, yes, but I shouldn't think that it applies if the scene is already rape.

Yeah, but it's not always rape. It could be perfectly consensual sex but the receiving partner is like "no, don't cum there!" but then it happens anyways.

I know that.

Agreed to above, also not all rape ends in an unwanted finish, so aliases and implications either way aren't really appropriate.

maybe change it to unwanted_climax (or orgasm)?

Esme_Belles said:
maybe change it to unwanted_climax (or orgasm)?

That's the result of rape.

Hey guys, creator of the tag here. I was just referred to this thread by an admin.

Great to see there's a good discussion going on over the purpose of the tag. I thought I'd enlighten you guys on the reason for it in the first place. Myself and a few furs I know have a bit of a fetish for when a receiving partner has their request for where to finish denied. One of them argues that not wanting a sticky mess in your hair and having a disobedient partner do it anyway counts as that fetish, and I happen to agree with that logic. A few more say that finishing inside without permission to do so is also in the spirit of the fetish, and again I can agree. Then there's my logic which was brought up earlier here, that rape isn't the only time such a fetish happens. It's my desire to encompass all components of the fetish that likely made this tag turn out awkward.

The tag in question was created to facilitate easier searching of this fetish as previously many specific searches had to be performed and combed through to find exactly the results desired. The issues however are whether the tag should be renamed to a more appropriate term (which is a tad hard to place admittedly) or if a modifier tag should be used instead (a tag designed to me used in tandem with a more specific facet of the fetish, as in 'undesired cum_inside' or something similar for a search)

I think it would be best to find out from the community what feels more appropriate as I intended to improve for the community's sake in the first place. If the tag is redundant or unnecessary I'll be more than happy to delete it and clean up after myself. However if we can find a niche to fill that improves the community I'd love to see that happen as well. Whatever the result I'm willing to facilitate the changes needed because its my mess after all.

Thanks for the good discussion guys. I'd love to hear what you think.

carbonFibreOptik said:
*lots of good stuff*

This is the best tag I never knew I needed. Lots of siroc's stuff comes to mind.

I say we keep the tag un-aliased/implicated. The only change I might make would be to rename it to something like unwanted_ejaculation, as the current name could be interpreted to imply a female forced_orgasm.

Creampie_surprise is generally used for unwanted anal/vaginal cumshot. unwanted_finish sounds a little vague, unwanted_cumshot is more direct, and would cover hair/face and anywhere else, and would be a good umbrella tag that could be implicated by creampie_surprise

edidaf said:
Creampie_surprise is generally used for unwanted anal/vaginal cumshot. unwanted_finish sounds a little vague, unwanted_cumshot is more direct, and would cover hair/face and anywhere else, and would be a good umbrella tag that could be implicated by creampie_surprise

This actually sounds a bit more appropriate. I intended to encompass all the bits and pieces into one tag and it likely needed to be two. creampie_surprise might indeed work for the more general use of the fetish and unwanted_cumshot actually seems to cover the rest pretty well. If anyone has any problems with that let me know, but for now I'll get to work on retagging once I hear back from the admin with which I was talking. Worst comes to worst, I'll be the one fixing things if another solution is preferred anyway.

What do you all think about using the 'forced' prefix?

Which could be grouped with all the other forced_* tags

Maybe something like forced impregnation?

unwanted cumshot/forced cumshot sounds like femdom territory (making the male climax against his will)

Forced_creampie and forced_cumshot don't really capture the intent of the tag in my opinion. I like edidaf's suggestion of the surprise_* prefix instead.

I agree, as forced_* could imply a domination or rape scenario when that isn't a requirement of the tag. The surprise_* prefix would perform a bit better in that regard.