Questions and Opinions about general NSFW stuff

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I've been thinking about certain questions that I've been asked so I guess I'm going to ask these question to see what this community says

One of my questions would be whether or not you feel as if the NSFW community deserves the amount of blame and demonization it gets from those in and out of the fandom (saying "oh those guys? They give the fandom a bad name") and similar types of arguments. Another would be whether or not you feel like the NSFW furry content is (technically) beastiality ((I know it's a poor question that's used by most of the furry-hating community but I feel as if I need a second opinion and *maybe* some refutation)) the third and last would be whether or not you feel as if the fandom is a fetish or not and if you feel the general discrimination that the fandom faces is warranted.

If you got this far without Tl;Dr-ing I'd appreciate any sort of reply


NSFW communities attract creeps. It's unfortunate, and since some communities tolerate creeps, there's going to be some level of justification to the SFW-only crowd looking down on NSFW communities. I'm glad e621 discourages creepiness these days. But to claims that the NSFW side gives the fandom a bad name, I'm guessing popular shows like CSI do more harm, by portraying the NSFW community as both "squicky" and as representative of the fandom as a whole. For much of the 20th century, it was acceptable to make jokes out of homosexuality and portray LGBTQ folks as perverts. In the 21st century, so far, furries are the new disfavored minority.

Furry art can and does blend into bestiality. I don't think there's a real refutation to be made, except to say that it's a spectrum, and while humans can't breed with other species, it hasn't stopped a number of them from trying throughout history. Further, humanity has a long and storied history with anthropomorphic animals or with shape-shifting into animals, and nearly every culture has myths and legends involving human/anthromorph or straight-up human/animal partnerships. Even western societies have tales such as when Zeus seduced a mortal woman by morphing himself into a swan.

Is the fandom a fetish? I mean, it can be. Fetishes are... fetishes. Is it a fetish for the community in general? Ask a sociologist, man, I only have anecdotes, and I think the healthier attitude is to not care either way.

And finally, screw the haters. Furry fans shouldn't face discrimination anymore than anyone else, particularly in light of humanity's long association with therianthropy.


  • #1. Every community has a "bad" side to it and many people will tend to just use them as scapegoats whenever there is any negative publicity brought to the fandom. As to whether they deserve it, it depends. If they had purposely tried to deface or slander the community, then they deserved to be shunned. If it was accidental or unintentional and the media chose to exaggerate it as the norm of the community, then you should blame them. One person/group's actions should not reflect the behavior of the entire community.
  • #2. If you mean "content" as "artworks", then no. Bestiality is the action of sexual intercourse between a person and an animal. If a bunch of drawn pixels on a screen or lines & colours on a piece of paper is considered to be bestiality, I would burn everything I have and move into the wild. However, legal-wise, it all comes down to how your country defines its obscenity laws and freedom of expression.
  • #3. Anything can be a fetish. A fandom is a community; a fetish is someone's sexual desire towards a particular thing. You can either have a fetish for it, or not. As for discrimination, you will have to ask yourself the question again. Should the fandom be discriminated because of one person/group's interest?

UppishSharkbait said:
I've been thinking about certain questions that I've been asked so I guess I'm going to ask these question to see what this community says

One of my questions would be whether or not you feel as if the NSFW community deserves the amount of blame and demonization it gets from those in and out of the fandom (saying "oh those guys? They give the fandom a bad name") and similar types of arguments. Another would be whether or not you feel like the NSFW furry content is (technically) beastiality ((I know it's a poor question that's used by most of the furry-hating community but I feel as if I need a second opinion and *maybe* some refutation)) the third and last would be whether or not you feel as if the fandom is a fetish or not and if you feel the general discrimination that the fandom faces is warranted.

If you got this far without Tl;Dr-ing I'd appreciate any sort of reply

1. discrimination is always pointless
2. no. one thing is watching 2 wolves having sex on this page for example, and another is having sex with your dog. you're not harming anybody with digital porn but you're harming your dog having sex with it. if you harm your dog, that means you don't love it.
3. well, i've seen furry groups on facebook and they seem to be like...uh...INCREDIBLY HORNY people. they are always talking about yiff and making weird comments like "i would love to burry my face on [insert something]" or something like that, it's so disgusting!
i'm not like them, i just like anthropomorphics.

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UppishSharkbait said:
I've been thinking about certain questions that I've been asked so I guess I'm going to ask these question to see what this community says

One of my questions would be whether or not you feel as if the NSFW community deserves the amount of blame and demonization it gets from those in and out of the fandom (saying "oh those guys? They give the fandom a bad name") and similar types of arguments.

I would say no to the general demonization of the NSFW community - some black sheeps can be found in every community tho. We see it in religions, politics, etc. and those are mostly the ones drawing the most attention towards their community.

Don't want get too political here, but an actual and the best example for this would be islamists and muslims - ISIS, Al-Quaida, etc. are names we all heard several times in our life by now. Some very black sheeps in a religion consisting of 1,8 billion people. Yet many take the believes and actions of those groups as reflection for the whole religion.

Another would be whether or not you feel like the NSFW furry content is (technically) beastiality ((I know it's a poor question that's used by most of the furry-hating community but I feel as if I need a second opinion and *maybe* some refutation))

the third and last would be whether or not you feel as if the fandom is a fetish or not and if you feel the general discrimination that the fandom faces is warranted.

Bestiality would involve a non anthropomorhic, feral animal in art and descripes the act of sex with animals (see link). I would say the NSFW content is an aspect of Zoophilia , as I couldn't find a term specific for liking anthropomorphic animals.

For the fandom in general, there are many factors that could cause a liking of Furry characters. Some people are fascinated by the idea of human like animals, like to roleplaying within the concept (Fur suits, as example) or find the art interesting. Without sexual motives to like it, it isn't a fetish per definition.
(But hey, I'm a retail salesman not a psychologist ^^ ; no guarantee I'm correct here )

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When we look at mythology, religions and art we can see that the whole concept exists since the early days of the human civilization. We have the gods of ancient egypt, folklore and religions from east asia, greek mythology and fables (books and more recently movies) - just to name a few examples.
What's new are the modern ways of communication and how people identify themselves. We have countless groups nowadays someone could be put into - be it Metal vs. Rap, Gucci vs. Dolce and Gabbana, Coffee vs. Tea and so on. Many opinions that colide, and a methode to present the own group as better is to denounce the opposition.

General discrimination of a community is never good nor warranted. There are parts of it that can be good and ones that are bad, where to draw the line between depends on the person judgeing