Hey,
any good explanation why my picture of ben nailing gwen (from ben 10 cartoon) was purged within minutes for being "irrelevant to the site" but this entire pool is apparently completely relevant?
https://e621.net/pool/show/2108

The pool and the picture has the same characters doing the same things so you should either delete both or neither right?
There is not even a flag option for things that are "irrelevant to the site" or i would have followed your moderators example and flagged it, i do like helping you see.

Agreed that pool is iorrelevant. What the heck is that doing on this site?

Time. The pool is 3 years old, your post is more recent. They won't delete old images, and they are supposedly taking the no human rule more consistently recently.

Siral_Eurgh-xan said:
Time. The pool is 3 years old, your post is more recent. They won't delete old images, and they are supposedly taking the no human rule more consistently recently.

That seems unfair...or lazy that old pictures are exempt from the rules.
Plus, humans are not allowed? there is tons of humans on here.

gittons said:
That seems unfair...or lazy that old pictures are exempt from the rules.

Reread my edit.

Siral_Eurgh-xan said:
Reread my edit.

I edited mine too.
If they suddenly change the rules to not allow something then old stuff breaking the rules should at least be removed for consistency sake right? I thought humans are allowed because i saw the exact same content that i wanted to post but it was removed so i was instantly confused.

Ok, time to break this down: no human specific image. If there is no furry, it gets removed. The rule wasn't heavily enforced to toons back then. They don't delete old imagery, I can't specify why.

On topic of human: humans never have animal-like qualities. If they do, like a penis or ears, it gets tagged humanoid, and those are allowed. I recently had this problem with lolis, even down to the phrasing that older images are allowed and that humans and humanoids are different.

Thanks for the information, very strange or even poor decisions going on but i have to obey them.

Would you punish someone for something they did three years ago, when you were perfectly fine with it at the time? Why would we go back and delete work that was perfectly acceptable until we refined the posting guidelines? They used to be very nebulous when regarding human-only content, that only content of "high merit" was to be allowed. Obviously this is incredibly subjective, so now it isn't.

Ratte said:
Would you punish someone for something they did three years ago, when you were perfectly fine with it at the time? Why would we go back and delete work that was perfectly acceptable until we refined the posting guidelines? They used to be very nebulous when regarding human-only content, that only content of "high merit" was to be allowed. Obviously this is incredibly subjective, so now it isn't.

It is not punishment, it is keeping things fair and consistent. So people who want to upload something do not look it up first, see like wise content posted, upload and then instantly get nuked with no real explanation.

Plus this is not something they did but instead something that is now permanently here, if a county suddenly makes the color blue illegal why would it make sense to keep all blue things before the law changed but ban all new blue things? that has no sense or fairness to it.

A county is RF, this is the Internet.

Deleting an image is also arguably punishment, it takes away from them. It is also useful to recognize, again, time differences. If it was deleted for any reason, but it wasn't in the past, you shouldn't take that chance and post again.

gittons said:
It is not punishment, it is keeping things fair and consistent. So people who want to upload something do not look it up first, see like wise content posted, upload and then instantly get nuked with no real explanation.

Plus this is not something they did but instead something that is now permanently here, if a county suddenly makes the color blue illegal why would it make sense to keep all blue things before the law changed but ban all new blue things? that has no sense or fairness to it.

There is no point in preening through thousands of images to remove things that are now suddenly against the rules. Human-only content is only one of quite a few things we no longer really allow. Those people should be looking at the site rules and DNP list first like we expect them to.

Ratte said:
There is no point in preening through thousands of images to remove things that are now suddenly against the rules. Human-only content is only one of quite a few things we no longer really allow. Those people should be looking at the site rules and DNP list first like we expect them to.

There is plenty of points, some of which i have bring up but i will stop here, would hate to get banned for the offensive of stating my opinion.
Thanks for the information guys.

Would be nice if we had a special thread or something else for these kind of topics, because these have been discussed so many times the past few months... Or if users would just contact the deleter.

gittons said:
It is not punishment, it is keeping things fair and consistent. So people who want to upload something do not look it up first, see like wise content posted, upload and then instantly get nuked with no real explanation.

Would you like it if you were punished for breaking the law before it was a law? American laws aren't retroactive, and e621 rules aren't, either. It is punishment, because it gives the user who uploaded the stuff a deleted post count.

Plus this is not something they did but instead something that is now permanently here, if a county suddenly makes the color blue illegal why would it make sense to keep all blue things before the law changed but ban all new blue things? that has no sense or fairness to it.

If they banned the creation of something blue, that wouldn't have an effect on anything that was already blue. Take the Prohibition, for example. They banned the creation of alcohol, not the ownership of it. What we did here is disallow the upload of human only art, not the existence of it.

gittons said:
I edited mine too.
If they suddenly change the rules to not allow something then old stuff breaking the rules should at least be removed for consistency sake right?

To chime in with the others, with the post count getting close to a million posts, that task would simply be too much of an undertaking.

o.O i'm surprised i haven't seen this set of pics come up on sankakucomplex yet. ben10 porn ain't exactly uncommon.

As another refutal to the statement that this kind of thing never happens in real life, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause