So today I log on to see 14 of my images have been deleted.

Some of the images that have been deleted where very old as well.

The reason I was given was: No more than 5 pages of self-hosted webcomics are allowed.

Okay, fine, then please example why only 2 pages survived...why where the rest deleted? This makes no sense, if only 5 where aloowed then why where only 2 left? Seriously, I uploaded lal these over the course of 3 days, I had no clue i can only have 5 on my account and more than that where deleted which ruined my upload score.

Can a mod please revive these?

I wont upload more, but having 14 posts deleted out of 16 is horrible.

https://e621.net/post/index/1/goodbearcomics

Because you're not the only one who can upload things. Read the Uploading Guidelines before posting.

And they weren't even deleted in order.

I wonder why they were deleted too, considering there are lots of other comics around.

I also want inqiure more about this deletion reason; that a new one to me since if it was a bad art comic it would've been deleted anyway.

sorry I though self-host meant self-publishing for a second.

DelurC said:
And they weren't even deleted in order.

I wonder why they were deleted too, considering there are lots of other comics around.

Yeah,

Ratte said:
https://e621.net/post/index/1/goodbearcomics

Because you're not the only one who can upload things. Read the Uploading Guidelines before posting.

It doesnt say the limit on 5 is restricted to the entire website.
"Webcomics are allowed as long as not the entire comic is mirrored here, meaning only up to 5 consecutive pages."
Otherwise how would pools of comics exist here?

14 where deleted, 2 of mine are left. By that rule alone 3 shouldnt have been touched.

Lastly, why was it deleted out of order?

Cat1778 said:
Yeah, It doesnt say the limit on 5 is restricted to the entire website.
"Webcomics are allowed as long as not the entire comic is mirrored here, meaning only up to 5 consecutive pages."
Otherwise how would pools of comics exist here?

14 where deleted, 2 of mine are left. By that rule alone 3 shouldnt have been touched.

Lastly, why was it deleted out of order?

The rule is meant to be a maximum for any self-hosted webcomic, not just "post page 1-5, skip 6, post page 7-12", etc. This has been rectified in the rules to be more clear.

Order is done in order of post, not order of canon or whatever. The first two you uploaded were kept while the latter too many were deleted accordingly.

What Ratte said is true. This rule is for self-hosted webcomics only and does not effect any other type of comic.

We also keep them by total amount uploaded, not by amount per person.

Ratte said:
The rule is meant to be a maximum for any self-hosted webcomic, not just "post page 1-5, skip 6, post page 7-12", etc. This has been rectified in the rules to be more clear.

Order is done in order of post, not order of canon or whatever. The first two you uploaded were kept while the latter too many were deleted accordingly.

Well the rule wasnt clear enough. It didnt say comic limit 5 to the entire site. Lastly when I said order I meant my upload order. They where deleted out of the order i uploaded them in.

The rule on this matter isnt clear at all, as it doesnt say the entire website's limit is 5. If anything, that reads as if one account can upload 5 comics.

Given how the rule isnt written clearly, can this please be fixed. I will gladly go along with this new rule once the wording is corrected, but really it reads as if 5 are allowed pre user.

If anything, can my upload number at least be fixed?

NotMeNotYou said:
What Ratte said is true. This rule is for self-hosted webcomics only and does not effect any other type of comic.

We also keep them by total amount uploaded, not by amount per person.

I read the rule part, but it doesnt say that or isnt written clearly enough. With that said, can this be fixed please? At least my upload count, as even if I noticed that new rule, i would have still been able to upload 5 pre how its written.

Nowhere does it say 5 is the limit for the entire website...come on, help me out here?

Cat1778 said:
I read the rule part, but it doesnt say that or isnt written clearly enough. With that said, can this be fixed please? At least my upload count, as even if I noticed that new rule, i would have still been able to upload 5 pre how its written.

Nowhere does it say 5 is the limit for the entire website...come on, help me out here?

It really was never written in a way that implied the limit was per account. In fact, you're the first person to think so and we made that rule like 2 years ago.

Cat1778 said:
Well the rule wasnt clear enough. It didnt say comic limit 5 to the entire site. Lastly when I said order I meant my upload order. They where deleted out of the order i uploaded them in.

The rule on this matter isnt clear at all, as it doesnt say the entire website's limit is 5. If anything, that reads as if one account can upload 5 comics.

Given how the rule isnt written clearly, can this please be fixed. I will gladly go along with this new rule once the wording is corrected, but really it reads as if 5 are allowed pre user.

If anything, can my upload number at least be fixed?

https://e621.net/post/index/1/user:Cat1778%20status:any

The posts kept were post #1491656 and post #1491657, the posts deleted were post #1491658 - post #1492126. The first two were the first two posted of however many you posted while the others came later. They were deleted to keep the first ones adding up to five in total for the comic's tag and delete those posted after the maximum was reached. That is typically how we handle deletions of this type.

The rule was made more clear by the time of my posting. You can go see for yourself. It makes no sense to let every single user post up to five pages of a self-hosted comic, and even then you posted more than five so that point is moot.

NotMeNotYou said:
It really was never written in a way that implied the limit was per account. In fact, you're the first person to think so and we made that rule like 2 years ago.

Well It doesnt say the entire wbesite's limit is 5 pre comic. It wasnt clear if thats how it was implied. The questions I had where this.

1. Why where they deleted outside of the order i uploaded them ?

2. Can my upload number please be fixed, due to the unclear rule?

Ratte said:
The rule was made more clear by the time of my posting. You can go see for yourself. It makes no sense to let every single user post up to five pages of a self-hosted comic, and even then you posted more than five so that point is moot.

Look, the way the rule was written was unclear, as if a user can upload 5 images. Now the rule is edited/fix, great, but I am asking for my upload count to be fixed by at least 3, because when i uploaded 5 images, the rule wasnt clear on it.

If anything, I'm just asking can my upload count get a small boost due to the loss of a unclear rule?

Cat1778 said:
Look, the way the rule was written was unclear, as if a user can upload 5 images. Now the rule is edited/fix, great, but I am asking for my upload count to be fixed by at least 3, because when i uploaded 5 images, the rule wasnt clear on it.

If anything, I'm just asking can my upload count get a small boost due to the loss of a unclear rule?

If your upload limit is above 0 there isn't really anything we'll be willing to do about it other than advise you keep the uploading guidelines and site rules in mind.

Ratte said:
If your upload limit is above 0 there isn't really anything we'll be willing to do about it other than advise you keep the uploading guidelines and site rules in mind.

If anything I did, btw checked the rules and it still doesnt say "5 comics is the limit FOR THE ENTIRE WEBSITE"

With that said, I did follow the rules, its not my fault they where not written clearly enough.

What the difference between this "self hosted webcomic" and rest of comics on the website? I don't get it.

Cat1778 said:
If anything I did, btw checked the rules and it still doesnt say "% comics is the limit FOR THE ENTIRE WEBSITE"

With that said, I did follow the rules, its not my fault they where not written clearly enough.

All rules count for the entire page because this is a public gallery. It makes no sense to go full redundant and specifiy that yes, all rules apply site-wide.

Besides, you uploaded 16 images when it said 5 anyway. If you aren't sure about something you should ask before doing something.

DelurC said:
What the difference between this "self hosted webcomic" and rest of comics on the website? I don't get it.

Some are comics, the others are webcomics.

As a rule of thumb, as long as the webcomic is hosted on their own page, we want to give the artist the opportunity to gain ad-revenue through it to off-set their hosting costs.

Cat1778 said:
If anything I did, btw checked the rules and it still doesnt say "% comics is the limit FOR THE ENTIRE WEBSITE"

With that said, I did follow the rules, its not my fault they where not written clearly enough.

The original language: "Webcomics are allowed as long as not the entire comic is mirrored here, meaning only up to 5 consecutive pages."

This clearly references the site as a whole, not just individual users. This is a booru, not a personal gallery where you just post things to your own page. Uploading guidelines are made in reference to the entire site, not just individual users with individual application. For example, it really wouldn't matter who uploaded a base that an artist reused-- we would only keep up to five posts containing that reused base. Who posted them is irrelevant.

Cat1778 said:
5 comics** typo

There is an edit button on the bottom of your posts so that you don't need to post twice.

DelurC said:
What the difference between this "self hosted webcomic" and rest of comics on the website? I don't get it.

Self-hosted webcomics are hosted on their own domains instead of being posted to a general gallery site like FA, DA, and so on. This is to allow users here to post a sample of the comic and direct traffic to where the comic is hosted if it's only hosted on their own domain for the sake of possible monetization (some sites have a donation/tip system and/or ads). If a comic is both self-hosted and posted to a gallery site, we can accept full comic uploads.

edit: I was slow typing. whoops.

Edit: Over all, thanks for the clarifications... I think it'd be good if the rules reflected more of this information :)

NotMeNotYou said:
Besides, you uploaded 16 images when it said 5 anyway

Regardless, how the rule is written then 3 of my posts shouldnt be touched. The rule isnt written clearly, it didnt say 5 is the limit to the entire website. It reads you can only upload 5 pre web comic, which is fine if this is the rule, but you are saying its not and it doesnt say that.

So really im just asking for 3 to be fixed, and then change the rule to be more clear in the future.

Ratte said:
This clearly references the site as a whole,

Then have it written in clear english, for the entire website.

Cat1778 said:
Regardless, how the rule is written then 3 of my posts shouldnt be touched. The rule isnt written clearly, it didnt say 5 is the limit to the entire website. It reads you can only upload 5 pre web comic, which is fine if this is the rule, but you are saying its not and it doesnt say that.

So really im just asking for 3 to be fixed, and then change the rule to be more clear in the future.
Then have it written in clear english, for the entire website.

It was. You're one of the few who have ever found it difficult to understand.

I will also not be changing your upload limit to be any higher. If it's a positive number, you're still capable of posting. If you were unsure about something you should have asked about it before doing anything and saved yourself the whole 3 drop in upload limit.

Ratte said:

Self-hosted webcomics are hosted on their own domains instead of being posted to a general gallery site like FA, DA, and so on. This is to allow users here to post a sample of the comic and direct traffic to where the comic is hosted if it's only hosted on their own domain for the sake of possible monetization (some sites have a donation/tip system and/or ads). If a comic is both self-hosted and posted to a gallery site, we can accept full comic uploads.

that seem like something that should be clarified in rules too since I thought it meant self-publishing for a minute

The original language: "Webcomics are allowed as long as not the entire comic is mirrored here, meaning only up to 5 consecutive pages."

I would suggest replacing consecutive with "maximum" instead. that leave little wiggle space next time someone doesn't understand the rule.

• Webcomics are allowed as long as not the entire comic is mirrored here, meaning only up to a maximum of 5 pages total.
• As a webcomic counts any comic that is exclusively hosted on their own page, exclusively hosted on a webcomic host, or monetized through ads.

Is this more clear/ clear enough?

Cat1778 said:
Regardless, how the rule is written then 3 of my posts shouldnt be touched.

https://e621.net/post/index/1/goodbearcomics

5 is the maximum, 5 images are still in that search, no other images will be restored from you.

NotMeNotYou said:
Is this more clear/ clear enough?

Webcomics are allowed as long as not the entire comic is mirrored here, meaning only up to a maximum of 5 pages total.
As a webcomic counts any comic that is exclusively hosted on their own page, exclusively hosted on a webcomic host, or monetized through ads.

Better.

NotMeNotYou said:
Is this more clear/ clear enough?

That would clear up things that I have had to deal in past, sounds more than great.

Cat1778 said:
Regardless, how the rule is written then 3 of my posts shouldnt be touched. The rule isnt written clearly, it didnt say 5 is the limit to the entire website. It reads you can only upload 5 pre web comic, which is fine if this is the rule, but you are saying its not and it doesnt say that.

So really im just asking for 3 to be fixed, and then change the rule to be more clear in the future.
Then have it written in clear english, for the entire website.

If the rule was for single user only, then the rule would be kinda pointless.

• Webcomics are allowed as long as not the entire comic is mirrored here, meaning only up to a maximum of 5 pages total.
• As a webcomic counts any comic that is exclusively hosted on their own page, exclusively hosted on a webcomic host, or monetized through ads.

If I might pick a bit...

• Webcomics are allowed as long as the entire comic is not mirrored here. Across the entire site, there should be a maximum of 5 total pages from the webcomic.
• Fan art, or official non-comic art, is not included with this total and has no limitations, so long as it obeys the rest of the website's guidelines.
• A webcomic is defined as any comic that is exclusively hosted on it's own page, exclusively hosted on a webcomic host (such as keenspot), or monetized through ads.

Hope I"m not overstepping my bounds!

On another note: I've followed some webcomics for 10+ years. The art can change an AWFUL lot over that kind of time. It might be nice if there was some sort of house rules allowing for some updated art to be uploaded under certain circumstances to better support the artist in question.