Mostly a thread to vent. I'm having an exceptionally hard time finding pictures of anthro girls with big tits getting fucked in the ass by an anthro guy. I don't know what the problem is, I have a long blacklist and I am using as many tags as I can, but I cannot find simple pictures such as this:

post #353703

Instead I am getting just tons and tons of fat furs, hyper dicks, dragons sticking guys up their ass, extreme size difference - not decrying such, but it's not what I'm after and I am having a hard time filtering it out.

I wonder if we could make a 'vanilla' tag and come to an agreement on what is 'extreme' and what is 'regular'. It's a pretty big concept to grab, but it would help a lot with searching it it could be figured out.

Maybe anything (short of anthro animals) that isn't possible would be vanilla? like, huge_breasts and huge_penis are possible & something most people expect to find in porn, but hyper_penis and hyper_breasts are a fetish only some people are after.

I guess it would be best to break this up into different tags;

vanilla_sex (this picture does not contain nipple-fucking, stomach deformation, etc)

vanilla_gender (this picture contains only males and females)

vanilla_furry (this picture only contains mammal anthros)

vanilla_anatomy (this picture does not contain hyper anything, multiple limbs, etc. this should not apply to herms and such; vanilla_gender would cover that).

vanilla_ice (this picture contains lip syncing)

vanilla_sexuality (this picture does not contain role-reversal, penetrated males, cross-dressing, etc)

just some ideas off the top of my head while I mourn my lack of big-tittied butt sex.

general disclaimer; I'm not speaking out against any of the things that 'vanilla' would cancel out, I'm just talking about a series of tags that would take the place of long search strings of -this -that.

anyway, i could type in huge_breasts anal vanilla_furry vanilla_sexuality and probably get a ton of what I was looking for without much of the more extreme stuff I was not.

If anyone thinks this is a good idea maybe I'll make up some wiki pages.

anal_penetration sex male/female huge_breasts anthro

Anal_penetration for the act, sex to specify no random toys, male/female to specify it's male and female only, huge_breasts for your tits preferences. Enough tags to spare you could specify you don't want pegging or other modifiers.

All of the other things you listed; fat furs (obese), anal_vore, hyper; are able to be blacklisted. It's entirely your fault if those show up in your results when you don't want to see them. There is more than enough space in your blacklist to add those and many, many more.

Also, hard no to the vanilla* tags.

Adding order:score is a good way to sort for mostly-vanilla without needing a tag to specify it.
Even -human male/female anal order:score gives a decent number of results. Optionally, add tags for removing animations and your preferred level of boobage.

(though I now realize anthro_on_anthro is extremely undertagged for how common it is)

NotMeNotYou said:
anal_penetration sex male/female huge_breasts anthro

Anal_penetration for the act, sex to specify no random toys, male/female to specify it's male and female only, huge_breasts for your tits preferences. Enough tags to spare you could specify you don't want pegging or other modifiers.

All of the other things you listed; fat furs (obese), anal_vore, hyper; are able to be blacklisted. It's entirely your fault if those show up in your results when you don't want to see them. There is more than enough space in your blacklist to add those and many, many more.

Also, hard no to the vanilla* tags.

Yeah but it's not necessarily something I want to blacklist, especially since some people with a horrible sense of body image really abuse the obese tag.

I am just looking to make it easier to search on the days when you don't want something particular without having to edit your blacklist. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't, sometimes you feel like getting shoved up a dragon's ass

Sparkmane said:
Yeah but it's not necessarily something I want to blacklist, especially since some people with a horrible sense of body image really abuse the obese tag.

I am just looking to make it easier to search on the days when you don't want something particular without having to edit your blacklist. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't, sometimes you feel like getting shoved up a dragon's ass

and peeps wouldn't ever mistag your insanely ambiguous and horribly redundant valilla_x tags. Every single tag you suggested is literally just the inverse of a tag or set of tags that already exist. most notably vanilla_gender which would be is literally identical in every way to -intersex and vanilla_sexuality which is just -female_penetrating.

Just add tags you don't like to your blacklist, dude. We're not going to consolidate all the stuff you want into a few tags just for you, it's the definition of a waste of everyone's time.

Sparkmane said: some people with a horrible sense of body image really abuse the obese tag.

30 BMI(the precise medical definition of obesity) is not that big at all. You like obesity, that's perfectly fine. You clearly have some shame issues with admitting it; you should work on your own self-acceptance rather than lecture others about "body image."

Sparkmane said:
vanilla_ice (this picture contains lip syncing)

I think we should allow this one :)

Arrow189 said:
30 BMI(the precise medical definition of obesity) is not that big at all. You like obesity, that's perfectly fine. You clearly have some shame issues with admitting it; you should work on your own self-acceptance rather than lecture others about "body image."

Respectfully, hush. We have a problem on this site where people do not use the right tags for the right body sizes. This includes breast sizes, muscles, obesity, dicks, balls and everything else that comes in small, medium, large and hyper.

Weight is particularly troublesome because we do not use the BMI scale for measuring obesity. (for one, BMI is a terrible scale, and while it applies well to SOME people, others are failed quite terribly by it.) here on e621, we have images, they do not have heights or weights. They are, also, animals, and a bird will have a very different BMI than a tiger or a rabbit or a whale. we judge off of appearances.

e621's "fat scale" is as follows:

Slightly_chubby is for people with a bit of gut but an otherwise 'average' body type.
Overweight is for 'santa fat" and under -- uncle joe's beer belly, Momma's thicc thighs
Obese is for fat that is developing into rolls.and creases.
morbidly_obese is for "hyperfat" where characters are overwhelmingly huge.

for reference:

post #117362 post #310616 <-- these are our TEXTBOOK examples of overweight

post #564864 post #556914 <-- These are our examples of obese.

Your 30 BMI person, while obese by medical standards, is 'overweight' by ours, which is not used for medical purposes.

..for fun.. these clothed women are all 154 lbs, while This man supposedly obese in 3 of these 4 images

So... to conclude: Sparkmane is not incorrect about obesity being mistagged. Please do not be catty towards other people. We may be a furry site, but we prefer purrs, not hisses.

Mhm. For example felines with +weight tags due to cats' natural loose skin being mistaken for belly fat. At the same time, e621's scale is shifted to the heavy end. "Slightly" includes visible panniculus, and as you say "Santa fat" being merely "overweight" when it would be morbid obesity by IRL standards (including both physical attraction and medical purposes. Few people want Santa's nudes.) These standards are those of the viewer and largely independent of the character's species, just as sex tags are applied independent from "canon" gender identity- tags are to help people find things, not to answer questions like "how much extra weight is medically 'overweight' for an anthropomorphic axlotl?"

Due to the FA movement I am wary of talk about "body image," which often shortly turns into shame against people who are not attracted to fat bodies. Perhaps I picked up on that when it wasn't there. If so, I'm sorry for being catty.