This has been ah nervous thought that's crossed my mind more time than
I'd care to mention ◠‿◠;)

Thought it'd high time I just ask about. ╹‿╹)
Rather than sitting on the question and sinking into it like
a quicksand made out of anxiety =‿=)

So m8s, Dood, Mods, Admins and that technicolor rainbow in-between~★
^{(Dragon Ball Z Abridged is neat ◠‿╹)}

Do the votes really matter in the long of things?

i.e: Effect wither a post is approved and so on?
╹ ╹)

No. Check the uploading guidelines for a list that might contain the answers you are looking for, but upvotes, downvotes, and favorites (or lack thereof) will not affect your post's chance at approval.

Siral_Exan said:
No. Check the uploading guidelines for a list that might contain the answers you are looking for, but upvotes, downvotes, and favorites (or lack thereof) will not affect your post's chance at approval.

_{Ah, That's a load off my chest. =‿=)}
Thanks 'Exan.

Glad to hear (Or I guess read in this case ╹ ‿╹)
That voting doesn't play a phantom 3rd role in
the uploading process. ╹‿╹)

-.-

Nope. Otherwise posts in order:score_asc wouldn't exist.
We approve based off quality, not user opinion.

AoBird said:
-.-

_{Heya Kacchan ╹‿╹)}
^{I mean it, I still hope you're having a nice day ◠‿◠)}

Chaser said:
Nope. Otherwise posts in order:score_asc wouldn't exist.
We approve based off quality, not user opinion.

You make a solid point m8 ╹‿╹)
Really is re-assuring to know posting is that objective.
Not that I outright thought peeps post were removed outright
by views opinion like the internet version of gladiator battles
you'd see on movies. ◠‿◠)

Just thought seeing the red of a downvote might cause a
peep to look at the particular pic with a more critical eye than
one if they've seen green on. Like making a good first
impression vs. Making a bad one. ╹‿╹)

And honestly, The thought of making a bad one
gives me anxiety =‿=)

The only things that affect approval of files posted are whether they adhere to the guidelines of the websites uploading rules. For example, approval of a post will be dependant upon whether the content is relevant to the site or not. However, the general perceptions of the sites users (displayed in comments and votes) is irrelevant to whether an admin approves a post. As long as you've read the guidelines then there shouldn't be a problem.

Typically people might downvote something that contains a particularly extreme fetish that is generally not liked, but is allowed to shown here. However, you should make a point to ignore downvotes for those reasons, as that's anonymous individuals who can't use their blacklist properly. The closest thing that might exist to subjectivity in approval is whether or not quality standards have been met, as I imagine it can difficult to know where the specific line is between what's good enough and what isn't. Usually it's clear enough, but if an artist is just finding their feet and they are only somewhat skilled they might just have to wait and see.

I don't think it's too difficult to tell for yourself whether something is good enough to be excepted though, as you only need to take a look at some recent posts and compare what you want to upload here. If there was an approval based system where the opinions of the community as a whole dictated the status of an upload, then the website wouldn't run very well at all and wouldn't likely be very popular. This is exactly the problem with some other websites that have petered out in the past, due to site owners letting their personal opinions get in the way of effectively running a site.

Notkastar said:
Just thought seeing the red of a downvote might cause a peep to look at the particular pic with a more critical eye than one if they've seen green on. Like making a good first impression vs. Making a bad one. ╹‿╹) And honestly, The thought of making a bad one gives me anxiety =‿=)

I do think that it's possible people approach a post with a more critical and pessimistic mindset upon seeing a significant number of downvotes. Such is the nature of the Internet and the cynicism it has nurtured in many of us. (Myself included.) But as has been explained, the admins aren't concerned with that when it comes to approving a post. It's a strongly objective, rule-based decision.

Thanks for taking the time to reply in such detail m8!
I can feel my anxiety toward the topic die down ╹‿╹)

TwistedLogik said:
I do think that it's possible people approach a post with a more critical and pessimistic mindset upon seeing a significant number of downvotes. Such is the nature of the Internet and the cynicism it has nurtured in many of us. (Myself included.) But as has been explained, the admins aren't concerned with that when it comes to approving a post. It's a strongly objective, rule-based decision

Indeed and I surely hope so my m8.
Though it the supposed infallibility of the mods and common corruption
each one of us as peeps hobor that makes me wonder ╹ ╹)

Has there ever been a bad admin/janitor/mod and so on? Ah~

NotMeNotYou-Black

if you will ╹‿╹)~★

Goku Being

the Power to make a change
that could affect a lot of peeps.

Zamasu being

the Corruption of Champions
(Really should play that game again someday,
Game's great and I see they have a sequal now =‿=)
_____________________________________________

Kinda Off Topic train of thought ╹‿╹)

I know this is really off topic, it's just
what you said, Bringing up the pessimistic
nature of the internet that got me thinking
if there was ever a peep here who abused
their power?

Oh~ it sounds so possible!
And if there was, there also has to be one heck
of a story to it, ya know? ╹‿╹)~★

Though as things stand now, I can't or at least
I don't think I should make a thread asking:
"Were there any corrupt mods in e621's history"
=‿=;)

Could be over thinking things again but, Making that
thread right after making this one~

Could send the wrong message, dood.

Saying:

"That I'm a less than happy user who's looking
for things to start something with the doods who work on the
site" =‿=)

Rather than a peep who's just curious and has
a lot of misguided energy ╹‿╹)

Though~
Nothings stopping me from asking
for your thoughts on the topic m8
before I get around to making that thread. ◠‿╹)

Do you think there's ever been a corrupt Mod/Admin

in e621's history?

Notkastar said:

Do you think there's ever been a corrupt Mod/Admin in e621's history?

I've only been here for a few years and aren't too involved in the community, but I think I remember reading that some of the earlier moderators.
Something along the lines of that they weren't quite so professional and that there were problems. Those people are long gone now though.

TwistedLogik said:
I've only been here for a few years and aren't too involved in the community, but I think I remember reading that some of the earlier moderators.
Something along the lines of that they weren't quite so professional and that there were problems. Those people are long gone now though.

Really like the way you put that, m8.
Sounds like I wasn't too off the mark when
I said there was a story there! ╹‿╹)~★

Oh~ I just can't wait to talk more about this. ◠‿╹)
Making the thread I mean, Don't worry I don't intend on
bothering you any more than I am now. ◠‿◠)

But I have to say:
It might have just been the way you put it but it
really does sound like e621's Dark ages. Where
gladiatorial battles for post really did take
place, Personal opinion was law and peeps might
of even been burned at the stake or smited
(metaphorically, of course, =‿=) for having
different opinions contrary to the Gods
(being the Mods, admins and so on in this case)

I wounder who would be "Guts" in that little scenario.
the peep or peeps responsible for making 621 the
way it is now? Or rather was their an uprising? ╹‿╹)~★
(metaphorically, again ◠‿╹)

Just enough people speaking up about the misuse of
power, Causing the site to decline so swiftly and
sharply, The guys behind the wheel had to make a
change? Kinda like~
*Spoiler for a Popular Anime ahead*
The Current season of Attack on Titan ╹‿╹)

Scoring doesn't effect approval, I do still want to say that if the post is downvoted to oblivion without any favorites for whole month, there just might be something not-so-great going on with the post even if it does end up approved. Actually, usually even worse situation might be if post has absolutely no interaction at all, it just sits there with zero votes, favorites and comments, at that point nobody cares about the post to degree they don't even to dislike it.

Also I have deleted posts with absurd positive scores and gotten everyone on my back for following the guidelines.

TwistedLogik said:
I've only been here for a few years and aren't too involved in the community, but I think I remember reading that some of the earlier moderators.
Something along the lines of that they weren't quite so professional and that there were problems. Those people are long gone now though.

I have looked up some stuff from starting era and there's deletion reasons insulting artists wanting their stuff away from here and artists getting warnings for posting their stuff because someone else already posted the smaller extremely compressed version of it.
I can say that I definitely wouldn't be here if it was like this still.

The earliest administration--the ones who created this website--very much had the attitude of "this is my house with my rules, if you don't like it, get the fuck out." They were rude, disrespectful and were very ban happy. They had no respect for artists in general and things like the DNP list weren't ... things. And generally speaking, you could get a ban if the staff didn't like you, and if the staff did like you, you could shoot someone on the street and they wouldn't care. Not really a good way to run a site.

Like... this place had an ~awful~ reputation, back in that era. lots of porn, sure, but artists hated us. Artist fans hated us. A lot of people hated us.

In the years since, we've worked really hard to clean up our reputation, and for the most part... yeah I think we're doing pretty well :)

as for individuals... I don't know for certain, but it would not surprise me if a few people had been removed for less than professional behavior. We tend to have a staff of around a dozen people at a time and we've been around for over a decade. That's a lot of potential staff. :)

Mairo said:
I have deleted posts with absurd positive scores and gotten everyone on my back for following the guidelines.

Oh.
Sorry to hear about that m8, Guess the popularity of a post can be bad
either way in certain scenarios. Though it's still great to get confirmation
that approval on this site solely depends on if it follows the guidelines.
Instead of withering its pop or not ╹‿╹)

Also, I appreciate you, Snowwolfs and every other peeps effort towards
the site development. You're doing a great job! ◠‿◠)

Mairo said:

I have looked up some stuff from starting era and there's deletion reasons insulting artists wanting their stuff away from here and artists getting warnings for posting their stuff because someone else already posted the smaller extremely compressed version of it.
I can say that I definitely wouldn't be here if it was like this still.

SnowWolf said:
The earliest administration--the ones who created this website--very much had the attitude of "this is my house with my rules, if you don't like it, get the fuck out." They were rude, disrespectful and were very ban happy. They had no respect for artists in general and things like the DNP list weren't ... things. And generally speaking, you could get a ban if the staff didn't like you, and if the staff did like you, you could shoot someone on the street and they wouldn't care. Not really a good way to run a site.

Like... this place had an ~awful~ reputation, back in that era. lots of porn, sure, but artists hated us. Artist fans hated us. A lot of people hated us.

In the years since, we've worked really hard to clean up our reputation, and for the most part... yeah I think we're doing pretty well :)

as for individuals... I don't know for certain, but it would not surprise me if a few people had been removed for less than professional behavior. We tend to have a staff of around a dozen people at a time and we've been around for over a decade. That's a lot of potential staff. :)

Oh these replies are amazing!~★
Not that I'm endorsing their actions, Because that really does sound
like Berserker levels of 'Dark Ages' comparatively speaking. T‿T)

I love e621 the way it is right now ╹‿╹)
Where an artist's opinion matters and you won't be banned for liking a color the admins didn't. =‿=)

It's just from what I've heard thus far, The past of e621 sounds so~

╹‿╹) Incredibly

◠‿╹) Overwhelmingly

◠‿◠) Interesting~★!

Like:

• How well do you think the change went over?

• How did they go about cleaning things out? Both on the art end and personnel wise?

• How did they go about announcing their change to a new leaf?

• and most importantly how did they win people back? And get new responsible peeps to help on top of that? ╹‿╹)

Sorry if I'm a bit excited here ◠‿╹)
it's just the more I think about this
the more interesting of a topic this becomes. ╹‿╹)~★

The only thing I can think of that could make this even
better is if more mods and Admins had origin stories of
the times they were around when e621 was still seen
as a bad place. And getting to see it's turn around
first hand! ◠‿╹)

Well, as I recall....

The changeover happened because some dude decided to lodge statements that the website was hosting child porn, and copyright infringement with the host, and aparently the site owner was threatened with deportation, and the website was going to be shut down.

Varka stepped in and good over the website--don't know anythign about that-- but that was went the take down policy was really ...er.. .closer to it's current form.

This is around when I heard about the site, and was concerned for it's wellfare as a place I"d visited a few times, and eventually ended up taking part in the community. I never knew the old one... but...

*shrugs* I mostly remember approaching people and trying to be as friendly as possibly, explaining how we were not interesting in infringing on anyone'sd copyright, and look see, their name is clearly on each page, as is the source and if they don't liek it, they can jsut say so, we totally understand..

The rule has always been 'ask before you upload" but that seems to be stressed now more than ever -- while on the other hand, I've bene told that my approach is WAY too friendly. I don't think so, but it does say a lot about how peopel percieve the website.