Topic: Thoughts on these websites in case Twitter bans sensitive content

Posted under General

This might be a huge doozy and this might be rambling as I'm gonna post this on one thread, lest I be spamming if I post these on separate threads. So here it goes.

In recent events on Twitter prohibiting rape and gore, and I'm worried that Twitter might pull a Tumblr in the future and we might be no longer welcome to post adult content there, I'm asking these questions:

1. What's the largest and most visited site after FurAffinity? If it's SoFurry, I might go there. Which website is most likely to be exodus'd in case FA gets the Big Downtime?

2. I just set up an account on BaraAddiction. What are your thoughts on that site, and how is it compared to the original Y-gallery, and the still developed Y-gallery 2.0?

3. It's been a year since Tumblr banned porn. How are the Tumblr alternatives such as newTumbl, Pillowfort, and Mastodon now?

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AlexYorim said:
1. What's the largest and most visited site after FurAffinity? If it's SoFurry, I might go there. Which website is most likely to be exodus'd in case FA gets the Big Downtime?

2. I just set up an account on BaraAddiction. What are your thoughts on that site, and how is it compared to the original Y-gallery, and the still developed Y-gallery 2.0?

3. It's been a year since Tumblr banned porn. How are the Tumblr alternatives such as newTumbl, Pillowfort, and Mastodon now?

1. Inkbunny, followed by SoFurry, and then Weasyl.
2. Never heard of it, so I cannot give my thoughts on there.
3. I haven't used newTumbl enough to give an opinion, and I don't have an account on either Pillowfort or Mastodon, although I did get a few images and WebMs from the latter before.

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I guess it's time to say goodbye to Twitter if this happens unless we could protest, I hope.

I mean seriously? What's with all the new rules around the Internet being so vaguely descripted that they make us panic or something? Are these guys behind the new rules being lazy at typing something clearer or intentionally typed like this to make it easier for viewers to read?

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Using twitter for porn is dumb. Twitter is a communication tool, not a art gallery or pornhub alternative.
Personally I kind of do hope twitter bans explicit content. At least with Tumblr, posting porn there sort of made sense because it was more geared towards personalized blogs.
The nsfw content tools are extremely stupid on Twitter. It is either full nsfw or no nsfw. Can't flag specific posts as nsfw.
Personally I'd be fine with nsfw content on Twitter if used in the correct context,but people tend to just dump porn there instead.

Also use furrynetwork.

Updated by anonymous

I'd be fine with Twitter banning porn if for no other reason than it might encourage some artists to actually go and use a site that has some sort of proper gallery feature. Twitter is absolutely goddawful for users attempting to find, follow, or view content.

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In terms of attracting users in the event of a Twitter exodus, Newgrounds and Inkbunny seem like the best contenders in my opinion.

Newgrounds

Pros:
- No account required to view NSFW content
- Relatively quick load times
- Easy to browse through an artist's entire gallery
- Allows high-resolution uploads
- Name recognition, broad variety of content, and free of furry drama

Cons:
- Cropped thumbnails make finding specific images onerous
- No support for uploading multiple high-resolution images to a single post
- Direct image links contain suffix cruft by default, but work with it removed

Inkbunny

Pros:
- Relatively quick load times
- Easy to browse through an artist's entire gallery
- Allows high-resolution uploads
- Supports uploading a comic or alternate versions to a single post, and clearly lists the page count of a post when browsing through thumbnails
- Extremely precise search functionality, including MD5 search

Cons:
- Cub content magnet. YMMV, but it's off-putting for many artists and viewers
- Ban on depiction of any humans
- URL inconsistency. Old-style URLs for posts do not redirect to the new format, and direct image links differ based on proximity to the nearest IB server
- Scraps gallery lacks discoverability compared to FA due to being limited to a small, text-only hyperlink

SoFurry and Weasyl are both sluggish by comparison, with Weasyl taking the cake for most emphasis on visual streamlining over usability (their pagination system is truly horrid). SoFurry suffers from its folder system, which makes pure chronological searching infeasible if not limited to just comics. Furrynetwork is serviceable, but feels claustrophobic due to lack of screen real estate devoted to thumbnails over general UI cruft. FA is, well... FA - it's got many problems, but it's more popular and user-friendly in its current state than SoFurry or Weasyl, despite its archaic resolution limitations on upload.

Updated by anonymous

Maybe artists will actually move on to actual art gallery websites with actual art gallery website features. Twitter is so unabashedly shit for art *and* exposure I have no clue how it's so popular

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Songbird said:
Inkbunny
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Cons:
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- Ban on depiction of any humans

Only when depicted in sexual situations. Otherwise, depiction of humans is fine.

From Inkbunny's Acceptable Content Policy:

Human Characters

Human characters are permitted in artwork, however they must not appear in sexual situations and must not show genitals, anal details, or sexual arousal. Censored art involving humans must plausibly depict a non-sexual situation.

Human characters are permitted in stories only so long as they are not involved in sexual situations of any kind. This policy also applies to thumbnails for stories and music.

Characters that are essentially human (pixies, faeries, elves, orcs, trolls, etc) or just have ears/tails or other superficial animal features applied are considered human for this rule.

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Well, Newgrounds, SoFurry and FN it is then.

I used to have an IB account years ago, but I've forgotten my name and password, and it's due to being more frequent on FA.

I'm adding the ban on human and humanoid art the second reason why I won't go to IB, as I usually draw humans and orcs.

Not sure if SF and FN is alright with human and humanoid art.

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Also, should y-gallery ever come back, I hope they'd be more tolerable to furry art unlike last time.

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mrnotsosafeforwork said:
Maybe artists will actually move on to actual art gallery websites with actual art gallery website features. Twitter is so unabashedly shit for art *and* exposure I have no clue how it's so popular

Twitter is bad for serving as an actual gallery but I've discovered tons of awesome artists through twitter than I have in my entire time using other regular art websites. Often I notice that for artists I decide to begin watching are often already watched by the ones I'm already following. I'm often exposed to them by timeline's sharing random likes or retweets, something that is part of an INHERENT nature of twitter's functionality. Artsites at best only do this via someone's favorites list, which isn't as readily apparent.

I'd call twitter pretty damn good for art exposure, as someone who doesn't often care to casually watch a new artist. Until I used twitter my FA watch list was for all intents and purposes static for years at a time.

This is opposed to most art websites where searches are often nebulous, being too general or too specific, while "recommendation" functions on most sites are just badly designed.

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Clawdragons said:
I'd be fine with Twitter banning porn if for no other reason than it might encourage some artists to actually go and use a site that has some sort of proper gallery feature. Twitter is absolutely goddawful for users attempting to find, follow, or view content.

Yeah, when actually put like that... I hope they ban media, product, and company commentary/feedback type content next too. So companies (especially media and games) both stop and reverse the dissolving of their communities into social media. You want a big reason why outrage culture and non-playing/watching/reading outsiders have been able to so infest, influence and control the narrative in many cases.. This right here.

Next up, traditional forum style discussion! (somehow) :P

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Does anyone know if IB is planning on implementing a better tagging system?

I really enjoyed the layout and responsiveness of the website. The community was really nice, too.

It was very hard trying to find every textual variation of one subject to blacklist due to tags not being centralized, ie: blacklisting "cub" doesn't blacklist "lion_cub", or "cubs", etc.

I'd like to go back if that issue is fixed.

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I read Twitter's policy on sensitive media recently. I don't see any signs they are going to ban it. They developed a sensitive media filter for a reason.

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/media-policy

From what I have understood from their policy about it, you can't post that stuff in highly visible areas, but you can still post it.

You may not post media that is excessively gory or share violent or adult content within live video or in profile or header images. Media depicting sexual violence and/or assault is also not permitted.

For this reason, you can’t include violent, hateful, or adult content within areas that are highly visible on Twitter, including in live video, profile or header images. If you share this content within Tweets, you need to mark your account as sensitive.

I really doubt Twitter is going to make the same mistake that Tumblr has made. Why would they give up everything they gained from the poor decisions of one of their competitors?

That being said, I think Inkbunny, and Pixiv are decent alternatives to Twitter. Both allow you to upload gore, cub, and loli art and don't have resolution restrictions. It is easy to find image sources from those sites too.

- Others seem to be more familiar with the policies on humans.

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