Topic: artist is lonely?

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dubsthefox said:
Eh... could you clarify your statement? What are we supposed to do?

I just asked a question, I do not know what is the reality of the other artist, I would like to hear the answer of each.
(alone i can't guess everything.)

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being an artist often implies that you work alone, and therefore feel lonely. artists are often isolated, because they don't know any other artists. sometimes the only chance we have to socialize with others who do things that are similar to other artists is the internet. it's important to understand the concept between loneliness and solitude. solitude is something you choose to facilitate your artistic process, to help you create something. loneliness may be something that is imposed on you, whether by your circumstances or what is happening in your life at the moment.

Okay, serious answer time.

One of the greatest regrets I have an an artist is never having any art peers or art mentors. You know how some artists tend to group up, collab with each other, borrow their OCs a lot, and hang out with each other in streams and sometimes IRL? Or how some artists will go "Oh, yeah, I studied under such and such?" I never had that, not in all the decades I've been doing art, and my god, it feels like dragging my heart across hot gravel when thinking about that.

Hurts almost as bad as trying to cultivate an audience from scratch by yourself.

lonelylupine said:
Okay, serious answer time.

One of the greatest regrets I have an an artist is never having any art peers or art mentors. You know how some artists tend to group up, collab with each other, borrow their OCs a lot, and hang out with each other in streams and sometimes IRL? Or how some artists will go "Oh, yeah, I studied under such and such?" I never had that, not in all the decades I've been doing art, and my god, it feels like dragging my heart across hot gravel when thinking about that.

Hurts almost as bad as trying to cultivate an audience from scratch by yourself.

i see you all the time on forums and the comments but i actually didn't know you were an artist

are all of your uploads your art or are you on any other art gallary platforms like FA or newgrounds?

dripen_arn said:
i see you all the time on forums and the comments but i actually didn't know you were an artist

are all of your uploads your art or are you on any other art gallary platforms like FA or newgrounds?

Most, not all, of my uploads here are my own work, under the lonewolf_(343) tag.

If you are kind to yourself, then you are never lonely.
Just don't do anything with the repercussion of deepening social isolation, is all.

Loneliness and being alone are two different things, as Neepokra points out. For some people, there's no place lonelier than a crowd, and there's no company more enjoyable than their own. It just depends on the person.

deltasomnium said:
I feel like I'm a lonely artist, but I don't know if that applies at all

I think that what @neepokra and @Clawstripe said is truth. Taking that in the good sense.

However, I also think that we humans are "social animals" and our Zeitgeist pretends to impose us the idea that being alone could be a "natural state", and even an "ideal of independence".

(And possibly, one day for saying something similar, I would be kicked out of this forum,... hopefully, not now).

Looking at your profile... I found this...

- É melhor fazer errando, do que ficar parada(o) pra sempre.

Es mejor cometer errores que quedarse quieto para siempre. -

- Краще робити помилки, ніж стояти на місці вічно.

Es ist besser, Fehler zu machen, als für immer still zu stehen. -

- È meglio commettere errori che stare fermi per sempre.

Лучше ошибаться, чем вечно стоять на месте. -

- 영원히 가만히 있는 것보다 실수를 저지르는 것이 낫습니다.

Det är bättre att göra misstag än att stå stilla för alltid. -

- It's better to make mistakes, than to stand still forever.

You write over and over the same meaning in Portoguese, Spanish, Ukranian, German, Italian, Russian, Korean, English, and Norwegean / Swedish (I don't know).

And I agree...

=).

If you have and ideal of friendship, companionship, kindship or romance... you already know that probably you could have it, but it will cost you: Time, effort, and emotional hits. And only you know if the benefit offset the price, for you.

My recommendation will always be to be cautious, and rational, but yeah... to move towands your goal.

Regards.

the hardest way to have an easier present.
I just find loneliness strange and as if I'm guilty of feeling this way, I'm confused.

deltasomnium said:
the hardest way to have an easier present.
I just find loneliness strange and as if I'm guilty of feeling this way, I'm confused.

This is a terrible place to be you want to be if you want to discuss emotional issues. There are way too many armchair psychologists here who will sophisticate at you and lead you down unhealthy paths.

This goes for me too, btw. I may be well-practiced in the way of the social misfit, but I ain't got solutions for you. Only difference between me and the shitheads is that I'll tell you that.

lonelylupine said:
This is a terrible place to be you want to be if you want to discuss emotional issues. There are way too many armchair psychologists here who will sophisticate at you and lead you down unhealthy paths.

LonelyLupine is correct. If you feel you have issues with loneliness, finding a trusted, licensed therapist to give you a hand is far better than asking a bunch of who-knows-whats on the internet. Just getting out of the house and finding someplace in real life that you feel comfortable socializing at (either with others or by yourself, whatever feels right at the time) could make a huge difference. Regardless, the answer to your loneliness won't be found online in the forum to a furry art archive, but in that morass that's real life.

mexicanfurry said:

Looking at your profile... I found this...

- É melhor fazer errando, do que ficar parada(o) pra sempre.

Es mejor cometer errores que quedarse quieto para siempre. -

- Краще робити помилки, ніж стояти на місці вічно.

Es ist besser, Fehler zu machen, als für immer still zu stehen. -

- È meglio commettere errori che stare fermi per sempre.

Лучше ошибаться, чем вечно стоять на месте. -

- 영원히 가만히 있는 것보다 실수를 저지르는 것이 낫습니다.

Det är bättre att göra misstag än att stå stilla för alltid. -

- It's better to make mistakes, than to stand still forever.

You write over and over the same meaning in Portoguese, Spanish, Ukranian, German, Italian, Russian, Korean, English, and Norwegean / Swedish (I don't know).

And I agree...

=).

only did it out of boredom, otherwise it would be a terrible message of my revolt

IMO, maybe make an effort to get friends rather than waiting for them to come to you.
Getting friends is an ACTIVE thing an artist has to do. They don't come out of anywhere.
You need to nurture such relationships. You could join some communities that speak to you
and build relationships with certain fandoms that suit your tastes. Soon enough
talking and bonding with such people would eventually lead you to make some artist friends.
Simply commenting on others' art and then asking if they want to hang out is one way to do it.

Simply saying you're lonely isn't gonna get ya some friends.

closetpossum said:
IMO, maybe make an effort to get friends rather than waiting for them to come to you.
Getting friends is an ACTIVE thing an artist has to do. They don't come out of anywhere.
You need to nurture such relationships. You could join some communities that speak to you
and build relationships with certain fandoms that suit your tastes. Soon enough
talking and bonding with such people would eventually lead you to make some artist friends.
Simply commenting on others' art and then asking if they want to hang out is one way to do it.

Simply saying you're lonely isn't gonna get ya some friends.

Very well said.

Join a few Discord servers, maybe post your art, try speaking to other artists complimenting them or giving them advice. maybe an online friendship might become a real one

I was considering a career as a graphic designer and I was decorate workroom for it. I received only some commissioned from relatives and I was try drew cartoons. I am not was good and everything was take a lot time. I can't be in the room every day many hours but when I draw, I must be alone. Quite soon I got some kind of burn-out and I can't draw anymore.
That didn't just fit for me.

That was my cartoon!: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/5f/b4/8a5fb41eb07bac19b312f621640fe8cf.jpg

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east_siberian_laika said:
I was considering a career as a graphic designer and I was decorate workroom for it. I received only some commissioned from relatives and I was try drew cartoons. I am not was good and everything was take a lot time. I can't be in the room every day many hours but when I draw, I must be alone. Quite soon I got some kind of burn-out and I can't draw anymore.
That didn't just fit for me.

That was my cartoon!: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/5f/b4/8a5fb41eb07bac19b312f621640fe8cf.jpg

you have the talent to do comics

fluffermutt said:
There are plenty of solutions to loneliness as others have pointed out, you just have to apply yourself.

I'm trying to understand myself while making some mistakes, getting a solution is almost impossible

deltasomnium said:
you have the talent to do comics

Hey Thank you!

I stopped drawing some years ago. I lost inspiration but here is exciting to watch what others are make.

I found inspiration again by fursuiting and making fursuit but I am not care fandom anymore, I met the wrong kind of friends. I was found alcohol and weed there, now I use those too much...

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I wouldn't say I feel alone or know too many artist who are alone, but I used to be quite lonely as a person. Many artist work for clients or companies and as such are in good company of others. I think if you're already a lonely person and do art as a hobby (e.g. furry stuff) you can feel quite lonely but am not sure how common already being lonely like that is. There is some stereotypes where artist are romanticised as being mentally unhealthy, but I'd say most artist I know of are quite social, professional and mentally healthy. Most artists just love what they do, though all humans can get lonely sometimes and there are many ways to help with that, especially as an artist. So don't ever feel you have to be alone as an artist, there are many like you here and you are in good company.

Having a friend or your partner around you while making art is also very nice, even if they're doing something else or just cuddling up with you. Often we joke around, suggest ideas to one another or even roleplay in a way. I recommend sharing your art experience like so irl if you feel physically lonely while doing art.
One other thing you can do is stream what you are doing as art. It doesn't matter how good you are, there are usually not much criticism to streams as long as you are making art or anything really if you like to switch between games or whatever you enjoy. Streaming lets your friends engage with you and may be even draw or game alongside you. Voice chatting or even just communicating your emotions by playing music on a stream is also a nice way to share company with others while streaming and it is a bit less disruptive than typing.

You might also be uncomfortable with yourself and that's why you feel lonely when doing an activity like art. When you are reliant too much on others as a source of happiness that can may be get in the way of productivity and art. If you don't enjoy your own company, doing some inner work which depends on finding your core beliefs, meanings and values, e.g. finding out why you want to art, etc. This would involve taking care of your well-being, promoting healthy thought and physical/hormonal health, etc. One way I personally do this is through mental-yoga, doing different forms of creative/recreational activities and by practicing positive-thinking.

Remember that art is inspired and inspiration comes from various sources, so as an artist you can consider socialising and doing different activities as a part of being a well-inspired and diverse artist.
Artists in the design and concept industries for example often go on trips to get inspired, and going on tour is an opportunity to make friends, see new places, do/make new things and gain a healthier mindset towards art. Don't feel trapped and lonely or put yourself in a dark room all day alone for example, instead share and celebrate your identity as an artist.

Hope you feel less lonely soon.

inafox said:
I wouldn't say I feel alone or know too many artist who are alone, but I used to be quite lonely as a person. Many artist work for clients or companies and as such are in good company of others. I think if you're already a lonely person and do art as a hobby (e.g. furry stuff) you can feel quite lonely but am not sure how common already being lonely like that is. There is some stereotypes where artist are romanticised as being mentally unhealthy, but I'd say most artist I know of are quite social, professional and mentally healthy. Most artists just love what they do, though all humans can get lonely sometimes and there are many ways to help with that, especially as an artist. So don't ever feel you have to be alone as an artist, there are many like you here and you are in good company.

Having a friend or your partner around you while making art is also very nice, even if they're doing something else or just cuddling up with you. Often we joke around, suggest ideas to one another or even roleplay in a way. I recommend sharing your art experience like so irl if you feel physically lonely while doing art.
One other thing you can do is stream what you are doing as art. It doesn't matter how good you are, there are usually not much criticism to streams as long as you are making art or anything really if you like to switch between games or whatever you enjoy. Streaming lets your friends engage with you and may be even draw or game alongside you. Voice chatting or even just communicating your emotions by playing music on a stream is also a nice way to share company with others while streaming and it is a bit less disruptive than typing.

You might also be uncomfortable with yourself and that's why you feel lonely when doing an activity like art. When you are reliant too much on others as a source of happiness that can may be get in the way of productivity and art. If you don't enjoy your own company, doing some inner work which depends on finding your core beliefs, meanings and values, e.g. finding out why you want to art, etc. This would involve taking care of your well-being, promoting healthy thought and physical/hormonal health, etc. One way I personally do this is through mental-yoga, doing different forms of creative/recreational activities and by practicing positive-thinking.

Remember that art is inspired and inspiration comes from various sources, so as an artist you can consider socialising and doing different activities as a part of being a well-inspired and diverse artist.
Artists in the design and concept industries for example often go on trips to get inspired, and going on tour is an opportunity to make friends, see new places, do/make new things and gain a healthier mindset towards art. Don't feel trapped and lonely or put yourself in a dark room all day alone for example, instead share and celebrate your identity as an artist.

Hope you feel less lonely soon.

Thank you very much, I'll rethink about it

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