Topic: Erroneously given a negative record

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Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask. I randomly received a message an hour ago stating I was given a negative record for "using alternate accounts to break site rules". They linked to a user named "gynomorphisaslur", which has zero association with me. The message also claimed I was incorrectly changing tags -- the only two edits I made today were adding "belly_nipples" to post 2954592 and changing post 3637495's rating from explicit to questionable, as there are no explicit elements in that image. Is there some kind of appeal process I can go through to reverse this decision?

alphamule

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covalence said:
Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask. I randomly received a message an hour ago stating I was given a negative record for "using alternate accounts to break site rules". They linked to a user named "gynomorphisaslur", which has zero association with me. The message also claimed I was incorrectly changing tags -- the only two edits I made today were adding "belly_nipples" to post 2954592 and changing post 3637495's rating from explicit to questionable, as there are no explicit elements in that image. Is there some kind of appeal process I can go through to reverse this decision?

Your first place to ask is message to name on the record: https://e621.net/dmails/new?dmail%5Bto_id%5D=323290
If you're sharing an IP address, or making similar edits, or interacting with same users as that account, I can imagine that's why it got associated. Coincidences happen.

alphamule said:
Your first place to ask is message to name on the record: https://e621.net/dmails/new?dmail%5Bto_id%5D=323290
If you're sharing an IP address, or making similar edits, or interacting with same users as that account, I can imagine that's why it got associated. Coincidences happen.

That happened to me because me and my brother live in the same house. I believe it when they say it's not common for two users to share the same IP. This isn't Facebook where everyone and their mother has an account, lol

pheagleadler said:
That happened to me because me and my brother live in the same house. I believe it when they say it's not common for two users to share the same IP. This isn't Facebook where everyone and their mother has an account, lol

Seeing as how my sister is a furry, I guess that was her then. Fuck. Is there just no hope of appeal then?

Watsit

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covalence said:
Seeing as how my sister is a furry, I guess that was her then. Fuck. Is there just no hope of appeal then?

You always have the option of appealing it. Write a polite message to either the moderator that gave you the record, or the head admin NotMeNotYou, and explain the situation. Whether or not the appeal will be accepted and the record removed will depend on the particulars of the issue, and what kind of proof you can provide, though.

watsit said:
You always have the option of appealing it. Write a polite message to either the moderator that gave you the record, or the head admin NotMeNotYou, and explain the situation. Whether or not the appeal will be accepted and the record removed will depend on the particulars of the issue, and what kind of proof you can provide, though.

I don't really have any proof beyond what I've written here, and I don't think they'll accept "my sibling did it" as a reason.

I suppose it doesn't really matter, at least they didn't ban me too.

I mean if they thought you were the same person, wouldn't it be considered ban evasion? That account is newer so idk if that changes things...

alphamule

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covalence said:
So apparently that wasn't my sister. bruh who tf was that

LOL, this is why you have to wait on mods to respond.

pheagleadler said:
I mean if they thought you were the same person, wouldn't it be considered ban evasion? That account is newer so idk if that changes things...

if staff knows about an alternate account and choose not to ban it, it's presumably okay to continue using the account. usually banning alts is to stop people from abusing the advantage of having multiple accounts, vote cheating, avoiding action limits, etc..

You've no idea how many times we ban alt accounts that were made at the same time, had the same email schema, and shared many IP address, and then the user says "That's not me, that's my brother/mother/dog's account! I share the same house with them"

rainbow_dash said:
You've no idea how many times we ban alt accounts that were made at the same time, had the same email schema, and shared many IP address, and then the user says "That's not me, that's my brother/mother/dog's account! I share the same house with them"

Yyyyyeah that's why I wasn't gonna bother contesting the moderator decision, I don't have any way to prove innocent. I did later get confirmation it was actually her, but I'm sure a discord screenshot isn't enough either.

rainbow_dash said:
You've no idea how many times we ban alt accounts that were made at the same time, had the same email schema, and shared many IP address, and then the user says "That's not me, that's my brother/mother/dog's account! I share the same house with them"

But it could possibly be 2 or more users sharing the same wifi or even the same computer. Family members, roommates, or neighbors could possibly be sharing the same IP address.

hjfduitloxtrds said:
But it could possibly be 2 or more users sharing the same wifi or even the same computer. Family members, roommates, or neighbors could possibly be sharing the same IP address.

Well obviously we are a prime example of this, albeit at least somewhat rare. And the possibility of neighbors creating accounts here is a good reason to keep your Wi-Fi password limited to people who actually live with you.

rainbow_dash said:
You've no idea how many times we ban alt accounts that were made at the same time, had the same email schema, and shared many IP address, and then the user says "That's not me, that's my brother/mother/dog's account! I share the same house with them"

Dog? I haven't heard of any that could use a computer lol

pheagleadler said:
Well obviously we are a prime example of this, albeit at least somewhat rare. And the possibility of neighbors creating accounts here is a good reason to keep your Wi-Fi password limited to people who actually live with you.

I was actually referring to neighbors who knowingly share internet access, which is quite common in lower- income apartment buildings.

pheagleadler said:
Dog? I haven't heard of any that could use a computer lol

I actually know plenty of dogs who can and do use computers.

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