I would like to hear what side in Skyrim you all joined. But i also want to hear why you choose one side over the other.

honestly i do not remember which side i chose on my very first attempt. but after that stormcloaks because relatable to my country's history and relatable to our tabletop rpg setting so it felt like right choice.

Peekaboo said:
Stormcloak.

I don't want to discuss it. People who favor the Empire are pretty poor at seeing two sides of an argument.

The Stormcloaks had the right idea and it feels wrong to support the persecution of the Talos worshippers, but I just felt that the Empire had a better chance of long-term success against the Thalmor if it kept Skyrim.

Too bad they can't all just focus on the Aldmeri Dominion.

I can see both sides of the argument, but I favour Imperials.

Makes better economic sense for Skyrim, the Empire is a little less racist than Ulfric, AND if Skyrim stays part of the Empire, the Aldmeri Dominion would be in serious trouble once the Empire builds up its strength.

It's like in pre-WWII Nazi Germany -- they re-armed in secret even though that was against the ToV, and they ended up as a terrifyingly powerful military force right under the noses of the League (in this case the Aldmeri Dominion)

I picked all 3 options on separate play throughs, but I'd side with the Imperials for a single reason: Fucking Thalmor.

The Empire hates the Dominion as much as the Stormcloaks, they only agreed to the treaty to stop the slaughter of their citizen, and General Tullius even states that they aren't happy with the situation and are planning/preparing behind the scenes to stage a coup against the Dominion at some point.

On the other hand you have Ulfric who is a bitch that likes to hear himself talk about how he wants to make Skyrim great again, but the only thing he really does is causing damage and trying to get a crown for himself. He doesn't give a shit about the citizen of Skyrim, much less about any other citizen of Tamriel. Ulfric will go to any length as long as it allows him to stroke his own ego while masturbating with the Jagged Crown.

I really hope the next single player TES let's us play the rebellion against the Dominion, I need an entire TES game dedicated to eviscerating Altmer with my Khajiit.

NotMeNotYou said:
I picked all 3 options on separate play throughs

?????

There was a third option?

>mfw nobody cares about the beast races, and the orcs, and the dunmer

I'm on that side.

NotMeNotYou said:
I picked all 3 options on separate play throughs, but I'd side with the Imperials for a single reason: Fucking Thalmor.

The Empire hates the Dominion as much as the Stormcloaks, they only agreed to the treaty to stop the slaughter of their citizen, and General Tullius even states that they aren't happy with the situation and are planning/preparing behind the scenes to stage a coup against the Dominion at some point.

This is exactly how I felt. The Empire might be mistreating the Nords, but the Stormcloaks have no chance of defeating the Thalmor, and since their success makes the Empire weaker, well... you'll be able to worship Talos all you want once the Thalmor have been dealt with, guys.

Fenrick said:
you'll be able to worship Talos all you want once the Thalmor have been dealt with, guys.

Ben Franklin said:
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Beanjam said:

Fenrick said:
you'll be able to worship Talos all you want once the Thalmor have been dealt with, guys.

Ben Franklin said:
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Dead people don't get out of slavery.

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
?????

There was a third option?

Don't start any faction quests but play through the main story quest, when the Greybeards ask you to get the help of the Imperials and Stormcloaks you'll get an option to hold a treaty in High Hrothgar based on the fact that you're the Dragonborn, and said negotiation then progresses differently.

Beanjam said:

It's all about weighing the value of freedom vs survival. The US has been put in similar situations, like what happened to Maryland during the Civil War...

Lately i've been choosing Imperials.

As an argonian, the Stormcloaks are extremely racist, although i hate the Dominion as much as they do, still doesn't excuse their racism.

The Civil War is pretty much "if we all banded together, we could all take down the Aldemeri Domnion!", but instead, "NO, CHOOSE A SIDE BLARG BALRG ABKCFWBVUVN"

my very first playthrough was me with the Stormcloaks though.

Peekaboo said:
You can still get that when you've chosen a faction. That mission always appears unless you've progressed past a certain mission in the Civil War quest line.

It's the same quest, but that quest progresses differently for either faction, or lack thereof.

I could only take the "war" in skyrim seriously with copious amounts of mods to make it actually feel like I'm in a battle instead of an isolated backalley barfight in the ten thousandth ruined castle west of nowhere

I went with the reds because I liked the voice actor on my first playthrough

Dragonlayer said:
I could only take the "war" in skyrim seriously with copious amounts of mods to make it actually feel like I'm in a battle instead of an isolated backalley barfight in the ten thousandth ruined castle west of nowhere

I went with the reds because I liked the voice actor on my first playthrough

Oh, I used to use a lot of mods myself.

that is, before the incident

Empire.
My first instinct was to support the Stormcloaks. But after reading the lore and finding out how much of a mess the Nords have made of the region over the centuries, I started to have doubts. And after meeting their new leaders and seeing that they hadn't learned anything (non-neutral Jarls are arrogant, racist, corrupt, and/or lazy), supporting the Empire was an easy choice.

>:( empire if i must choose. damned nords and they're racism towards all things not nords. screw them, just let me play khajiit or argonian WITHOUT all the racism and crap.

that's the thing i disliked the most in skyrim. too much freaking racism everywhere. i bet i'd face biggotry too from those stupids nords if i happened to find a nice maale partner for my character.

i'd sooner introduce them to my deadric warhammer than i would tolerate they're crap.

treos said:
damned nords and they're racism towards all things not nords. screw them, just let me play khajiit or argonian WITHOUT all the racism and crap.

Yeah, I figured the Stormcloaks would be unpopular here for exactly that reason.

Imperials, I always play argonian and stormcloaks are racist

Plus I'm a sucker for dat roman style armor

Moist towelettes...

Blazikendude said:
Moist towelettes...

???

I quit skyrim at the monk temple part because it was really boring zzzzz

memeboy said:
I quit skyrim at the monk temple part because it was really boring zzzzz

You got some kind of attention span disorder?

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:

It's like in pre-WWII Nazi Germany -- they re-armed in secret even though that was against the ToV, and they ended up as a terrifyingly powerful military force right under the noses of the League (in this case the Aldmeri Dominion)

But you have to hope that they don't bite more then they can chew. (We know how it ended for the third Reich)

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
You got some kind of attention span disorder?

No, he thinks he's some sort of master troll that is so edgy and clever

actually, i'm still waiting patiently for the day i might be able to visit the homeland of the khajiit. always wanted to see where they come from.

i wonder how they regard foreigners. they seemed nice enough in the past 3 games...well, ok, aside from the slavery in morrowind. :/ at least skyrim didn't have that (i'd have even more reason to hate and overthrow the nords if they did).

Rustyy said:
No, he thinks he's some sort of master troll that is so edgy and clever

to be honest vanilla skyrim blows. Especially back on release day when it was practically unplayable

treos said:
actually, i'm still waiting patiently for the day i might be able to visit the homeland of the khajiit. always wanted to see where they come from.

i wonder how they regard foreigners. they seemed nice enough in the past 3 games...well, ok, aside from the slavery in morrowind. :/ at least skyrim didn't have that (i'd have even more reason to hate and overthrow the nords if they did).

You can visit a small part of it in Elder Scrolls Online, and I actually really liked questing in it, as the stories are nice and well told, but it's a quite different play style from the traditional TES games.
ESO also doesn't have a subscription fee anymore, so if you can grab it for like 20 bucks you'll get quite a bit of story and possible playtime out of the single player parts.

NotMeNotYou said:
You can visit a small part of it in Elder Scrolls Online, and I actually really liked questing in it, as the stories are nice and well told, but it's a quite different play style from the traditional TES games.
ESO also doesn't have a subscription fee anymore, so if you can grab it for like 20 bucks you'll get quite a bit of story and possible playtime out of the single player parts.

maybe...but what of the system requirements? i mean, i know bigger mmorpg's like that sometimes have good video/audio settings to tinker with nowadays but this laptop uses Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family for graphics so does that meet the lowest or near lowest settings for the game? also 4GB ram too.

i know EQ, EQ2, and RIFT all run fine or rather they did last time i bothered to play those games. had to tinker with the video settings and turn the overall graphics down pretty low but i managed to get them all to run without much lag aside from connection (latency?) lag.

treos said:
maybe...but what of the system requirements? i mean, i know bigger mmorpg's like that sometimes have good video/audio settings to tinker with nowadays but this laptop uses Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family for graphics so does that meet the lowest or near lowest settings for the game? also 4GB ram too.

i know EQ, EQ2, and RIFT all run fine or rather they did last time i bothered to play those games. had to tinker with the video settings and turn the overall graphics down pretty low but i managed to get them all to run without much lag aside from connection (latency?) lag.

These are the minimum requirements:

OS: Windows 7 32-bit
Processor: Intel i3 or AMD 3870 generation processors or higher
Memory: 3 GB RAM
Graphics: Direct X 11.0 compliant video card with 1GB RAM (NVidia GeForce 460 or AMD Radeon 6850)
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 85 GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX compatible sound card

You also need a good 80 gigs available for this monster.

OT: Personally I side with the imperials. Skyrim never "belonged" to the nords, and any group that consists of a bunch of racist elitists i'm naturally against. Besides, even if they did end up winning the war, in the end the thalmor would just march in and roflstomp them.

SirBrownBear said:
These are the minimum requirements:

OS: Windows 7 32-bit
Processor: Intel i3 or AMD 3870 generation processors or higher
Memory: 3 GB RAM
Graphics: Direct X 11.0 compliant video card with 1GB RAM (NVidia GeForce 460 or AMD Radeon 6850)
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 85 GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX compatible sound card

You also need a good 80 gigs available for this monster.

OT: Personally I side with the imperials. Skyrim never "belonged" to the nords, and any group that consists of a bunch of racist elitists i'm naturally against. Besides, even if they did end up winning the war in the end the thalmor would just march in and roflstomp them.

i'm sorry but HOLY EFFING CRAP! 80GB?! dude, it took me at least a week to get either EQ or EQ2 alone last i went to play them and they're each around the 15GB mark.

i'm not sure our internet connection here could survive a 80GB download. let alone tera...geez >.> aside from that nightmare however, it does seem within my system limits. if only the file size was more reasonable relative to my download speed average (anywhere from 0-18kb/s).

I honestly chose the Stormcloaks. The whole racism thing they had going I believed was justified and I think that they are more badass then the Imperials. Also I hold grudges against people who want my head chopped off. >:(

aurel said:
Rephrasing: Racism is okay :D Go back to hammerfell you damn redguard :< 'Yrim

How dare you chop my head off? I'm not a criminal, I only tried to cross the border... <_< uhm.. no, actually, she goes to the block.
Besides, its war situation, and the fort is likely not properly supplied. Tullius is nearby, so im sure she has an excuse.

Make no mistake, Tullius is a massive idiot, but that was mostly a dickhole captain at the start of the game.

If made to pick a side, I'm not roleplaying a racist anarchist so I would never pick Stormcloak, but usually just skip the war quests, since I find the entire war and reason for it pretty dumb anyways :P

I chose Stormcloaks. Why? I don't know why.

Here's the thing:

The empire results in a healthier future skyrim, meaning the place is safer, stronger, and better protected with strong allies.

However

The empire is also full of fuckin terrible people, at the start of the game they make this clear almost right away "What should we do captain she/he's not on the list" - "forget the list, take them to the block" they're just killing you, with no proof you did anything wrong and no reason to suspect you're with the stormcloaks they just decide to KILL YOU FOR NO REASON.

Furthermore, listening to how the general speaks later on in the game, his attitude is just flat out disgusting. At the end of the game (Spoilers) When you kill ulfric stormcloak, with general tallius there. He will basically say ulfrics religion is so worthless that he doesn't even know the name of his god(s) Throughout the game the empire appears to be just monsters in 90% of cases, destroying peoples faith and beliefs the entire way. They are, terrible people in the end.

But none the less, you have two choices.

Put skyrim in an incredibly weak position no longer completely safe from attacks but still a "free land" with less hatred overall. (stormcloaks) or join the empire, which will result in a strong skyrim with strong allies but also religious dictatorship and large amounts of hatred and racism toward other religions. Awesome!

Imperials simply because I did not want to invade Whiterun. I was a thane there first, got my first house there, joined the companions, that place is like my first job.

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
You got some kind of attention span disorder?

skyrims just not fun, like there's a lot better first person mmedevial fighting games like hexen out there (sadly it's dev team now makes call of duty maps)

Cynosure said:
When you kill ulfric stormcloak, with general tallius there. He will basically say ulfrics religion is so worthless that he doesn't even know the name of his god(s) Throughout the game the empire appears to be just monsters in 90% of cases, destroying peoples faith and beliefs the entire way. They are, terrible people in the end.

But none the less, you have two choices.

Put skyrim in an incredibly weak position no longer completely safe from attacks but still a "free land" with less hatred overall. (stormcloaks) or join the empire, which will result in a strong skyrim with strong allies but also religious dictatorship and large amounts of hatred and racism toward other religions. Awesome!

i'm SO sick of hearing about religion in general at this point. literally NOTHING good ever comes of discussing it.

"Put skyrim in an incredibly weak position no longer completely safe from attacks but still a "free land" with less hatred overall. (stormcloaks)"

i'd rather lose annoying religion than side with racist bastards.

if you want fun, go to morrowind or cyrodil (tes iii or iv). if you want a flat out disgusting civil war between vile racist monsters (stormcloaks) or people who think a mere mortal is a god (imperial numb skulls >.>) go to skyrim (tes v).

if i can't explore the khajiit homeland, at least let me see more of the thalmor and maybe crush these 2 primitive factions of sub-humans.

I feel like I am the only one who chose a side for relatively mundane reasons now...

treos said:
i'm SO sick of hearing about religion in general at this point. literally NOTHING good ever comes of discussing it.

"Put skyrim in an incredibly weak position no longer completely safe from attacks but still a "free land" with less hatred overall. (stormcloaks)"

i'd rather lose annoying religion than side with racist bastards.

if you want fun, go to morrowind or cyrodil (tes iii or iv). if you want a flat out disgusting civil war between vile racist monsters (stormcloaks) or people who think a mere mortal is a god (imperial numb skulls >.>) go to skyrim (tes v).

if i can't explore the khajiit homeland, at least let me see more of the thalmor and maybe crush these 2 primitive factions of sub-humans.

Uhmmm... The legion is just as racist in some cases especially against khajiit. (and elves) Also they have their own religion, a very big one actually. But their religion is against Talos, so they banned the worship of him.

Either side has religion, either side has racism. The difference is the stormcloaks believe in free religion, in all forms not just talos. And tho they have some backwards ideas about who should live in skyrim, the king himself never specifically states he plans to do anything about the other races inhabiting the place.

Cynosure said:
Either side has religion, either side has racism. The difference is the stormcloaks believe in free religion, in all forms not just talos.

Nords forbid the Reachmen from worshipping their Old Gods, whereas the Empire prefers to just overlook it. (Though both sides consider the Reachmen to be 'barbarians'.)

Stormcloaks because fuck the Thalmor.

Genjar said:
Nords forbid the Reachmen from worshipping their Old Gods, whereas the Empire prefers to just overlook it. (Though both sides consider the Reachmen to be 'barbarians'.)

Not to mention the Nords of Old basically forced the Falmer to retreat to the Dunmar... which made them into the twisted beasts they are (Except for the possible small pockets left... Considering one is destroyed by a vampire Falmer...)