What do you all think of this woman? I know what i think, but i would like to hear what the rest of you have to say. But please do not start insulting each other, since i do not wish to see a flame war here.

see my first post on page 1 of the Feminism? thread.

and shes now trying to get the UN to censor the internet because some people said mean things to her (welcome to the internet, Anita, you must be new here). heres hoping that plan fails as badly as the past 3 attempts at that bs.

The women who attacked herself on the steam forums to continue to play the victim? Why does anyone care what she thinks?

I think Anita is only relevant because people demonized her in the first place.
Don't get me wrong, I totally disagree with her, but the people who hate her are the ones who made her famous.

Especially the ones who thought sending her death threats would solve anything.

she is my heroine

aurel said:
actions speak louder than words, eh? :p

No, she was popular enough to make a friking series on youtube, and even involve some game studios in that crap. Even without people going on her head, this shit would go on.
Anyway, making crap, and then crying over 90% dislike rate and calling it sexism, has only one word for it. crazy.

She was actually not that big of a deal before everyone started talking about how wrong she was.
She was just another dead-end vlogger who wanted attention, but then her enemies gave her more than she could have asked for. "No such thing as bad publicity."

I don't see why this stupid thing is even a big deal. Why does everyone care so much that she has a negative opinion of gamers? A lot of people do.

Fenrick said:
She was actually not that big of a deal before everyone started talking about how wrong she was.
She was just another dead-end vlogger who wanted attention, but then her enemies gave her more than she could have asked for. "No such thing as bad publicity."

I don't see why this stupid thing is even a big deal. Why does everyone care so much that she has a negative opinion of gamers? A lot of people do.

Gamers like myself care because she labels us with false labels. She calls use misogynists, rapists, and all that other crap, and it's just not true.

so wait what exactly is she trying to do

Google doesn't help, as usual

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
so wait what exactly is she trying to do

Google doesn't help, as usual

Get money, basically.

Ratte said:
Get money, basically.

By telling the UN to censor the internet or something?

Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
By telling the UN to censor the internet or something?

By being generally disagreeable. Any publicity is good publicity, and if she doesn't get enough she'll just send herself threats and cry about it in public spaces.

The most harm you could do is to simply not care.

Ratte said:
By being generally disagreeable. Any publicity is good publicity, and if she doesn't get enough she'll just send herself threats and cry about it in public spaces.

The most harm you could do is to simply not care.

I really do hope the UN shuts down her proposal.

Robinebra said:
Gamers like myself care because she labels us with false labels. She calls use misogynists, rapists, and all that other crap, and it's just not true.

1) No she doesn't, but good job on watering down her message to that.
2) If you're not any of those things, why do you care about a "false label". Clearly it doesn't apply to you if it's not what you are.
3) If you actually looked at the gaming community, especially the GamerGate movement, you would see that there are some extremely awful people proving her point every day. Just the other day, I saw a GG member saying he would "remove all women from his friend lists because they were likely to sue him for saying something offensive." Was completely serious about it too. But if you really want to stay in denial, go right ahead.

Kida said:
1) No she doesn't, but good job on watering down her message to that.
2) If you're not any of those things, why do you care about a "false label". Clearly it doesn't apply to you if it's not what you are.
3) If you actually looked at the gaming community, especially the GamerGate movement, you would see that there are some extremely awful people proving her point every day. Just the other day, I saw a GG member saying he would "remove all women from his friend lists because they were likely to sue him for saying something offensive." Was completely serious about it too. But if you really want to stay in denial, go right ahead.

There are awful gamers and there are awful feminists. If you are going to say "this member of this group said this awful thing, therefore that group is awful", you can't just apply that to one group and not the others.

To put it a little bit more clearly, you can say "this dude said something crazy, therefore gamers are crazy" but I can respond with "this woman said something crazy, therefore feminists are crazy" with equal validity. That is to say, no validity because I, at least, understand that guilt by association is a fallacy.

Kida said:
1) No she doesn't, but good job on watering down her message to that.
2) If you're not any of those things, why do you care about a "false label". Clearly it doesn't apply to you if it's not what you are.
3) If you actually looked at the gaming community, especially the GamerGate movement, you would see that there are some extremely awful people proving her point every day. Just the other day, I saw a GG member saying he would "remove all women from his friend lists because they were likely to sue him for saying something offensive." Was completely serious about it too. But if you really want to stay in denial, go right ahead.

She labels all gamers as such, even those that are good people. I, on the other hand, do not label all feminists as bloody insane liars. I label Sarkeesian as such since she has time and time again proved that the vast majority of her arguments are full of shit and flat out wrong.

sarkeesian is cunt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgxrP43syak

Fenrick said:
"No such thing as bad publicity."

Does that mean I could become rich & famous by making a really misogynist movie?
(I have some ideas :D)

Munkelzahn said:
Does that mean I could become rich & famous by making a really misogynist movie?
(I have some ideas :D)

Of course you can just look up Davis Aurini the "director" of the documental The Sarkeesian Effect

Kida said:
1) No she doesn't, but good job on watering down her message to that.
2) If you're not any of those things, why do you care about a "false label". Clearly it doesn't apply to you if it's not what you are.
3) If you actually looked at the gaming community, especially the GamerGate movement, you would see that there are some extremely awful people proving her point every day. Just the other day, I saw a GG member saying he would "remove all women from his friend lists because they were likely to sue him for saying something offensive." Was completely serious about it too. But if you really want to stay in denial, go right ahead.

Yes, you and her keep pretending the vocal minority is actually everyone

Who?

TheHuskyK9 said:
Who?

God bless you.

Don't look it up

CamKitty said:
God bless you.

Don't look it up

Looked it up anyway! :3

TheHuskyK9 said:
Looked it up anyway! :3

:(

I'm sorry

CamKitty said:
:(

I'm sorry

Eh, this stuff doesn't really interest me. Like, I do believe in that women should be equal in terms of an economic standpoint but the back-and-forth arguments and other drama stuff gives me headaches so I try not to participate in these kinds of discussions.

TheHuskyK9 said:
Eh, this stuff doesn't really interest me. Like, I do believe in that women should be equal in terms of an economic standpoint but the back-and-forth arguments and other drama stuff gives me headaches so I try not to participate in these kinds of discussions.

You and me bud, you and me.

It would be hilarious if this thread got used as material for another debate by her. I will laugh til I cry. I can see it now and it is golden comic gold.
The world would be a better place if she just stopped spouting bullshit

huh, a neutral record for that post. meh, i'll just watch what i say from now on then. i know how to learn from my mistakes.

Truth right here:http://gamergate-news.tumblr.com/image/130560888220

treos said:
huh, a neutral record for that post. meh, i'll just watch what i say from now on then. i know how to learn from my mistakes.

lol some feminist must have got a bit heated and reported you. No way admins missed it the first time, nor would they normally cite for something so mild.

Probably tried to report everyone in the thread to get it shut down. Typical feminist strategy.

Beanjam said:
lol some feminist must have got a bit heated and reported you. No way admins missed it the first time, nor would they normally cite for something so mild.

Probably tried to report everyone in the thread to get it shut down. Typical feminist strategy.

That's a brazen assumption...

You can check the tickets yourself if you don't believe me, but nobody's filed a single report in that thread yet, against anybody.
I'm not gonna lie, that even surprised me.

Fenrick said:
That's a brazen assumption...

You can check the tickets yourself if you don't believe me, but nobody's filed a single report in that thread yet, against anybody.
I'm not gonna lie, that even surprised me.

Doesn't actually mean anything. User reports are confidential.

well, it wasn't a neg record so i'm not too worried about it.

The lengths to which some people will try to twist anything she does into a sinister ploy is fucking hilarious.

tkongingi said:
The lengths to which some people will try to twist anything she does into a sinister ploy is fucking hilarious.

i'd say it's funny that you're trying to defend her but honestly, why bother defending her when everything she does just generates hate and/or drama?

i mean, it's pretty obvious that shes not out to help anyone. heck, even other women and feminists don't like her or approve of anything shes done. and i definately know gamers in general really dislike her.

i wonder if this censorship stunt will stand to generate ever more hatred towards her or simply blow up in her face in the end.

tkongingi said:
The lengths to which some people will try to twist anything she does into a sinister ploy is fucking hilarious.

It's more depressing than hilarious to me. The amount of threats, even before she had released any of these videos, was a real eye opener to me.

I've seen people question if some of them were even real threats... like when she took a screen shot 12 seconds after a threat while logged out of Twitter with no search terms...

TheHuskyK9 said:
Who?

My thoughts exactly.

treos said:
i'd say it's funny that you're trying to defend her but honestly, why bother defending her when everything she does just generates hate and/or drama?

i mean, it's pretty obvious that shes not out to help anyone. heck, even other women and feminists don't like her or approve of anything shes done. and i definately know gamers in general really dislike her.

i wonder if this censorship stunt will stand to generate ever more hatred towards her or simply blow up in her face in the end.

Thanks for making my point for me, mate.

tkongingi said:
Thanks for making my point for me, mate.

dude, i wasn't trying to prove you're point. and i wasn't saying anything to make her seem more sinister than she already does herself.

o.O if you're trying to do that white knight thing, stop it please.

I try to stay away from this entire feminism-and-women-in-gaming thing. There's way too much drama going on everywhere.

But if you want to know my opinion on Anita herself:
I think she someone who desperately wants to be a victim for some reason and is willfully dishonest, as well as hypocritical in her videos.
(= Not the biggest fan, but also don't really give a damn...)

Beanjam said:
Doesn't actually mean anything. User reports are confidential.

Didn't happen. No one reported him, period. If he hadn't attacked an entire group of people (feminists) then it would have been fine. Bear in mind there is a distinction between feminists and radical feminists, such as the one being discussed. We do not cater to the whims of butthurt SJW's, whether they identify as feminists or otherwise.

ippiki_ookami said:
Didn't happen. No one reported him, period. If he hadn't attacked an entire group of people (feminists) then it would have been fine. Bear in mind there is a distinction between feminists and radical feminists, such as the one being discussed. We do not cater to the whims of butthurt SJW's, whether they identify as feminists or otherwise.

i guess i didn't make it obvious enough that that was aimed at the radical feminists when i made that post.

seems pretty obvious to me when i reread it aside from lacking that one word: radical. i certainly hope that record wasn't just because i forgot to add one single word. cause, if it was, wth?

She's meh, people giving attention to her are feeding her. There are times I feel like those people that "hate" her, are actually with her. Really she's about as irrelevant as the next person walking in the park. If people don't bring her up, everything is fine. Other than that, a true feminist knows what they're really doing.

I dont care much for the girl. I see her as someone whos trying way to hard to make a stink about nothing. I live in the states and the genders are quite equal here in the terms of each gender getting "perks" equality through inequality as I like to say. So it is best to sum her up as a spoiled little girl who really only cares about herself otherwise she would be trying to help real women who face terror and hardships everyday in africa asia the middle east ect. Game set match