yeah, a lot of tags, I know, but at least most of them seem to have one thing in common: some kind of hand motion on something.

Surely some of these can be aliased/implied to eachother, right?

Regardless, these could use some cleaning up and clearing up as well because some of these are being used interchangeably. Most of them don't even have a wiki article as well.

-butt_grab is aliased from ass_fondle, butt_grope according to the wiki, so would that mean that fondle and grope should be aliased to grab/grabbing too? I wouldn't know about that, because grope's wiki article says fondling or TOUCHING, so technically groping wouldn't be the same as grabbing, because grab means more than just touch? I don't know.

Sorry if this is all overwhelming, I just want this to be straightened out so there can be some sort of standard on this king of tagging.

That is a lot

How about a list of each tag, with post# examples if possible?
That would be really helpful in deciding which ones to keep/alias/nuke/disambiguate/other

titaniachkt said:
That is a lot

How about a list of each tag, with post# examples if possible?
That would be really helpful in deciding which ones to keep/alias/nuke/disambiguate/other

Noted, thanks, will do soon if someone doesn't sooner :)

Okay this is what I put together:

Sorry, most of it's gay stuff, I have a lot of straight-related tags in my blacklist. Anyway:

Grab/grabbing (head): post #280781
Grip/gripping (butt): post #226856

grab and grip seem to be similar

lift/lifting (another body) post #149520 post #118968

carrying (another body) post #265872 post #194424
carrying seems to be similar to lift, but I think it's generally used for tings less sexually

holding (general): post #273105 post #270687 post #268406 post #258278 post #261208

looks similar to grap and grip as well

fondle: (boobs) post #258137
fondle: (balls) post #163127

squeeze: (boobs) post #245724

looks like grap/grip but a lot more firmly and roughly

....not to mention the plethora of tags that are hand_on_* and *_pull.

Keep in mind that all of these aren't necessarily tagged correctly and the fact that these are chosen off of somewhat personal judgement so it may not be the most accurate pics.

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Ugh, no idea how I missed this topic twice. Those reference pics definitely makes things easier to internalize

So, how about a rough grouping based on the focused action:

• Focus on touching, but not moving an object/person - Fondle/fondling , grope/groping, grip/gripping, grab/grabbing
• Focus on moving an object/person - Holding, carrying, lifting
• Other

Holding could be an umbrella tag for carrying and lifting, but that doesn't take into account cases where someone is telepathically carrying/lifting the object; so maybe leaving those separate would be a better idea

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And as for aliases, the progressive tense of a verb (-ing tags) usually takes precedence over the verb itself (grab, jump); something like:

grab -> grabbing
grip -> gripping
lift -> lifting
carry -> carrying
grope -> groping etc.

If pressed, the fondle/grope tags *could* be interchangeable, but using them to separate instances of self-fondling, as opposed to being groped from someone else may be a more flexible option

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The usage for most of these seems to be situationally dependent more than anything else though, which explains why there are so many of them being used with relatively low tag counts for each

There's also the *_on_* tags, which need lots of cleaning up and possibly separating (such as arms/legs v.s. arm/leg), but discussing those in a separate topic (something like Body Position/ Posture) may be easier than grouping everything in here

So would we then turn butt_grab into butt_grabbing? I think because we already have various *_grab tags, we should alias grip/gripping to grab/grabbing. Part of me wants to leave them all separate, as they do describe slightly different actions. On the other hand, I'm for combining them, as it can be really difficult to decide which one is going on in an image, since there's only a subtle difference.

Here's what I think:
Gripping -> Grabbing

Groping needs to be clarified first. Its wiki even says it is "touching or fondling." Yet most of us would say fondling is something different.

Lifting, carrying, and holding can remain separate, but possibly cleaned. You must first lift before you can carry, and you can carry while not being in the act of lifting.

Fondling needs to be clarified and either folded into an existing tag or defined in the wiki.

Sorry for the long wait for the reply guys.

And as for aliases, the progressive tense of a verb (-ing tags) usually takes precedence over the verb itself (grab, jump); something like:

grab -> grabbing
grip -> gripping
lift -> lifting
carry -> carrying
grope -> groping etc.

Okay, sounds good to me.
No clue what to do for the pressed though.

The usage for most of these seems to be situationally dependent more than anything else though, which explains why there are so many of them being used with relatively low tag counts for each

Yeah I noticed that.

There's also the *_on_* tags, which need lots of cleaning up and possibly separating (such as arms/legs v.s. arm/leg), but discussing those in a separate topic (something like Body Position/ Posture) may be easier than grouping everything in here

quick, someone make another topic.

also what redoctober said.