//Post not meant to offend any one person or group in any way//

So, I got online just now and went to YouTube because why not. The first thing I saw was the icon beside the regular YouTube icon that when hovered over reads: #OwnYourVoice.

Now usually I would just ignore this because I care very little for really any advertising in general, especially subtle, corporate-sponsored click-bait Advertising.

But the only reason I found any initial interest was because I actually lost my voice yesterday and found it very ironic that this advertisement seemed to taunt me for it.

So then While watching videos, I slowly fell into that trap and clicked it to see what it was for. Maybe it was something about singing, or VA's, or something along those lines, and I love supporting Indie Vocal artists, especially on YouTube.

But nope, It lead me to a spotlighted channel involving, "Standing Up For Gender Equality". Needless to say, I lost any and all interest in it immediately.

Now, I'm not sure what exactly the topic or even the stance was on that topic and I could really not care less.

If it's about the idea of two people of the same gender being able to get married and all, then great, good for them. I personally don't have any problem with that in any regard, as I actually have more respect for any person(s) who can overcome social adversity to pursue their life long dreams and to be happy with who they are. I'm actually too much of a coward to do it myself, so more power to those people.

But given the Imagery in the icon itself, I do not think this is the case. Instead I believe it may have something to do with Women getting equal rights as Men. (though I could be wrong since I didn't stick around to find out)

In this sense, I do very much believe that women and men should not only have equal rights, but also be treated as equals in every regard. However, I do NOT support feminism as it stands currently.

Though I do believe that all humans of every race and gender should be equal and treated as such in every regard, in my experience with Feminism, when most supporters claim to want equality for females, they express it mostly by greatly oppressing Males.

IMHO, by insulting and treating Males harshly just because they are simply that (Male), one does not express the desire for "equality". In fact, you are instead supporting the idea that Females are somehow better than Males, and if one considers themselves better than another then you are only further advancing "inequality" as a whole, just in the opposite sense. (that is, in favor of females instead of males)

Regardless, my question is, "Is YouTube Feminist, (meaning they just think females should have more rights and privileges than they do now, even if it makes males feel oppressed.) or do they actually support True Gender Equality, perhaps like I do?(meaning all females and males should both be equal and treated as such, and neither males or females should be under the oppression of the opposite party.)

Is YouTube... Feminist?

(Kinda wishy-washy about giving an opinion in these types of topics, but here goes~)

Feminism's become the "hop topic" as of late, so I'm sure You-Google's trying to capitalize on this by creating on one hand controversy to help garner attention, which leads to more clicks, which leads to more ad revenue. And on the other something to, for lack of better words, "pander" to the people who take that matter personally/seriously.

So yes, while it MAY have a legitimate meaning behind it, it's essentially clickbait.

SirBrownBear said:
Feminism's become the "hop topic" as of late, so I'm sure You-Google's trying to capitalize on this by creating on one hand controversy to help garner attention, which leads to more clicks, which leads to more ad revenue. And on the other something to, for lack of better words, "pander" to the people who take that matter personally/seriously.

So yes, while it MAY have a legitimate meaning behind it, it's essentially clickbait.

Ah, okay.

Well, if anyone knows clickbait at it's finest (and lowest) and how to do it, It's google.

how about like

not complaining

Yesterday was International Women's Day

Kristal_Candeo said:
But nope, It lead me to a spotlighted channel involving, "Standing Up For Gender Equality". Needless to say, I lost any and all interest in it immediately.

Now, I'm not sure what exactly the topic or even the stance was on that topic and I could really not care less.

Kristal_Candeo said:

I have no clue what's going on but here's my opinion anyway.

What is up with this mentally cropping up more and more, people picking a subject to comment on while actively electing to not even look into it first.
Why not just invest the 2-3 minutes to have a gander and then form a somewhat educated opinion instead of just blindly throwing a ball into a park and hoping one actually hits the subject?

NotMeNotYou said:
What is up with this mentally cropping up more and more, people picking a subject to comment on while actively electing to not even look into it first.
Why not just invest the 2-3 minutes to have a gander and then form a somewhat educated opinion instead of just blindly throwing a ball into a park and hoping one actually hits the subject?

Sorry. You know what, you're right in a sense.

Though, my opinions (expressed here) is not about YouTube, it's about Feminism;

I have educated myself on feminism, hence my expressed opinions.

I did not educate myself on the spotlighted channel, or YouTube's stance on the matter, hence the nature of my question.

in short:
YouTube = No opinion- don't know enough about it.
Feminism = expressed opinions- do have experience on the topic.

Kristal_Candeo said:

Is YouTube... Feminist?

All left media past liberal is biased towards feminism. Youtube is progressive/tumblr tier.

Kristal_Candeo said:
Sorry. You know what, you're right in a sense.

Though, my opinions (expressed here) is not about YouTube, it's about Feminism;

I have educated myself on feminism, hence my expressed opinions. I did not educate myself on the spotlighted channel, or YouTube's stance on the matter, hence the nature of my question.

The subject of the thread is clearly if youtube is feminist. (You stated so twice)
Yet you elected to not even look at that channel and instead went on talking about feminism at large.

Past that, youtube is as feminist as they can get ad-revenue from getting people to watch more ads/videos. As a company they want to earn money and this is a beautiful opportunity to line their pockets with more money. Nothing more, nothing less.

TheHuskyK9 said:
Yesterday was International Women's Day

.....

>*brain clicks*<

>OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH<

NotMeNotYou said:
The subject of the thread is clearly if youtube is feminist. (You stated so twice)
Yet you elected to not even look at that channel and instead went on talking about feminism at large.

Yes, that was my question. Though, I only expressed my opinions about feminism because without the context of what I perceive as purely "feminism", one could not possibly accurately answer my question to the best of their abilities.

So I apologize if this was just seen as an attempt to "muddle the issue", as my question remains the same.

Past that, youtube is as feminist as they can get ad-revenue from getting people to watch more ads/videos. As a company they want to earn money and this is a beautiful opportunity to line their pockets with more money. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thank you.

A lot of large companies are (or want to be seen as) socially progressive. I don't really care for their intent, but I think it's nice whichever way.

Very few feminists are female supremacists. Most feminists do aim for true gender equality - in fact, a few months ago, I saw more feminists championing Men's Day than I saw men championing it. I think the main problems are that a. some people don't realise that the problems women face are generally steeper than those men do and b. feminism has become something of a dirty word due to Gamergate and blogs and whatnot. It's all a bit of a shame really.

Kaeetayel said:
A lot of large companies are (or want to be seen as) socially progressive. I don't really care for their intent, but I think it's nice whichever way.

Very few feminists are female supremacists. Most feminists do aim for true gender equality - in fact, a few months ago, I saw more feminists championing Men's Day than I saw men championing it. I think the main problems are that a. some people don't realise that the problems women face are generally steeper than those men do and b. feminism has become something of a dirty word due to Gamergate and blogs and whatnot. It's all a bit of a shame really.

Feminism did this to itself. Dont try to blame anyone for this, but the women who identify as "feminist" Gamergate and those blogs are a reaction to it, not the cause of it. Also, in the west. women dont face steeper problems than men. We're equal here.

Ahri_The_Pure_Slut said:
Feminism did this to itself. Dont try to blame anyone for this, but the women who identify as "feminist" Gamergate and those blogs are a reaction to it, not the cause of it.

Reaction to what? Feminism becoming bad?

From what I remember, Gamergate was when people started becoming concerned about female supremacy, although I can't precisely remember why (a game developer not sleeping with a game reviewer who never reviewed her game?) and that caused a feedback loop, particularly with the SJW side of Tumblr moving into prevalence. I'm not saying anyone involved in Gamergate was a female supremacist (but then again I remember nothing about it) but that's when the fear set in, and although some female supremacists do exist on Tumblr, they certainly do not make up the majority of feminists overall, not to mention that as a blog site you'd pretty much get people of all opinions on Tumblr.

Ahri_The_Pure_Slut said:
Also, in the west. women dont face steeper problems than men. We're equal here.

Equal rights, maybe, but not equal treatment nor equal representation.

TheHuskyK9 said:
Yesterday was International Women's Day

Sooooo like what happened? Seemed like a normal day to me.

The modern excuse of feminism can rot in bloody hell.
Feminazis ACTUALLY have called for a mass genocide of males in order to create a superior feminist race. Sickening. I hate them.
Do I treat women equally? Yeah. Also I got no problem being downright nasty to someone who disrespects me outright, male or female, idgaf

The_Diggler said:
Sooooo like what happened? Seemed like a normal day to me.

Global manufacturing and consumption of sandwiches increased.

I was at work serving sandwich

TheHuskyK9 said:
Yesterday was International Women's Day

and today is The Triggering which actually sounds kinda like it could be a horror movie title or something. has a rather ominous ring to it i think.

TruckNutz said:
The modern excuse of feminism can rot in bloody hell.
Feminazis ACTUALLY have called for a mass genocide of males in order to create a superior feminist race. Sickening. I hate them.
Do I treat women equally? Yeah. Also I got no problem being downright nasty to someone who disrespects me outright, male or female, idgaf

speaking of male genocide (or maybe just potential genocide in general), i don't remember the videos title or else i might link it BUT i recall seeing a video on youtube not too long ago where some feminists were talking about abortion and one actually thought it'd be ok to abort the infant as late in the pregnancy as immediately after a woman had given birth to it. now, that sounds less like advocating abortion to me and more like advocating child killing. heres hoping things never get that far along. (already have some feminazis claiming child birth is rape. >.>)

If we're talking about USA...
Over eighty percent of politicians are men. Less than five percent of the Fortune 500 are led by women. There's still that ~30% wage gap after the age of 35: on average, men cap at 95K/year, women at 60K/year. The media, especially the advertising, is still almost fully controlled by men and clinging to the old-fashioned image that women cannot succeed in fields such as science and information tech.

Which is still better than in some other western countries.

There's a long way to go before gender equality is fully achieved.

Genjar said:
If we're talking about USA...
Over eighty percent of politicians are men. Less than five percent of the Fortune 500 are led by women. There's still that ~30% wage gap after the age of 35: on average, men cap at 95K/year, women at 60K/year. The media, especially the advertising, is still almost fully controlled by men and clinging to the old-fashioned image that women cannot succeed in fields such as science and information tech.

Which is still better than in some other western countries.

There's a long way to go before gender equality is fully achieved.

This.

Yes, we know that sexism goes both ways, people. That doesn't mean you should trivialize injustices faced by the other side. That isn't helping.

Genjar said:
If we're talking about USA...
Over eighty percent of politicians are men. Less than five percent of the Fortune 500 are led by women. There's still that ~30% wage gap after the age of 35: on average, men cap at 95K/year, women at 60K/year. The media, especially the advertising, is still almost fully controlled by men and clinging to the old-fashioned image that women cannot succeed in fields such as science and information tech.

Which is still better than in some other western countries.

There's a long way to go before gender equality is fully achieved.

Women are the mayority of voter they are the one who are voting for men over women also the wage gap is bs http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html

RioluKid said:
Women are the mayority of voter they are the one who are voting for men over women

Which proves that there's a long way to go.
Even some women have bought into the media bullshit that they're not as competent as men.

also the wage gap is bs http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html[/quote]
That article acknowledges that the gap exists. And it overlooks one of the main issues: at the equal level of competence, men are more likely to be employed for high-paying jobs.

Genjar said:
Which proves that there's a long way to go.
Even some women have bought into the media bullshit that they're not as good or competent as men.

What, do you want to brainwash women so they only vote for other women????????? that's scary dude, it's a very 1984-ish proposition.

Genjar said:
That article acknowledges that the gap exists. And it overlooks one of the main issues: at the equal level of competence, men are more likely to be employed for high-paying jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSG4xqjDqnM

Fenrick said:
This.

Yes, we know that sexism goes both ways, people. That doesn't mean you should trivialize injustices faced by the other side. That isn't helping.

Tell that to the feminazis who think that men don't have issues, that women can't rape men and that men can't suffer domestic abuse by their female partners.

TL:DR but Youtube did pop up an HIV drug ad (which I have never ever seen before) on a video talking about the alternate universe gay wolverine (The x-man).

Random said:
TL:DR but Youtube did pop up an HIV drug ad (which I have never ever seen before) on a video talking about the alternate universe gay wolverine (The x-man).

Please don't talk about jimmy hudson that idiot is gone with almost all of his universe for good, thanks hickman for killing the ultimate universe.

I... I can't even.

I asked a simple question about a corperate stance and everyone started arguing with and hating on each other.

Yes, there are gaps in society. Major ones. But arguing about who's right and who's wrong won't make it any better. If anything it could just make it worse instead.

I feel that when all humans, no matter race, gender, religion, or whatever, learn to put aside there differences for the better of the whole human race, only then will things get better. But as almost everyone here has clearly shown, humans rather argue and take sides than actually do something positive to better the situations they are put in.

I see all humans as just that. Humans. I don't look at a female, or another male, or a black person or a white person or a churchgoer, or whatever and immediately think that I'm better than them. To me, there is no difference. If anything, I just assume that I am worse than them in every way. I also try to assume that at our roots and no matter what our opinions of certain topics are, we can all come together for a common goal when the time arises, and make a positive difference in the lives of others and humanity as a whole.

But from my experiences in social interaction, people rather argue and fight for what they think is right and let their opinions stop them from making a positive difference in another's life, especially if they do not agree with the other person's point of view.

But after seeing this thread, I'm glad I don't go outside anymore.

@NotMeNotYou
Could you please close this thread. It's hurts my heart deeply to think that I started such a divide in this community over what I thought was a simple question.

I'm so sorry I did such a thing. From now on, I'll just keep my questions to my self.

Thread locked by OP request.