Topic: Tuvalu was Reaper?

Posted under General

Hudson

Former Staff

This was actually quite shocking to see.

So a few days ago, I gave parasprite a heads-up for the user Tuvalu, how he was a frequent tagger, uploader and busy on the forums. How he might deserve some recognition via a positive record.

Then, not much later when I checked the user again, he got banned for a Reaper ban circumvention.

How could this reaper guy have been here as an alt for as long as almost a year? And how can he keep coming back without being spotted easily?

Updated by Lekkiyo

Ratte

Former Staff

You are jumping on this issue a bit early. Please show us a little patience.

Updated by anonymous

Evading bans are something we do take seriously, but not so seriously that any admin is up late at night pouring over IP records trying to catch The One.

If someone evades their ban, but doesn't cause a disturbance, then mission accomplished. They have to spend the rest of their time trying not to be noticed, because it just takes us more than casually checking out an account once to catch a ban evader.

On our sister site, F-List, we have a lot more ban evaders and we follow the same protocol. We don't typically have to wait long, though...

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Ratte

Former Staff

aurel said:
Patience? Soo, you guys continue some investigating even after handing out a perma ban?

Wait and see, yes?

Updated by anonymous

Well, that would suck.

I mean, of course they probably deserved their permaban in the first place (not to mention all the alts), but apparently Reaper can behave just fine. It almost feels a bit 'unfair' to see someone get banned over old misbehavior once you've seen them be an exemplary user for a good while.

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Jugofthat said:
Well, that would suck.

I mean, of course they probably deserved their permaban in the first place (not to mention all the alts), but apparently Reaper can behave just fine. It almost feels a bit 'unfair' to see someone get banned over old misbehavior once you've seen them be an exemplary user for a good while.

The admins have been discussing similar concerns about this one, which is why this whole situation with this user is currently in limbo. We're discussing things with the user and it is possible we may be able to work something out, giving them a probationary chance to go straight if they agree. Which is why Ratte has been cautioning people not to jump too far with conclusions just yet. It's a very unusual situation which doesn't come up very often, almost never in fact.

Ban evading is mainly focused on people using new accounts to perpetuate the repeated rule-breaking which originally got them banned. The rare instance where someone seems to have learned how to become rule-abiding and productive on the site isn't quite what that rule was designed to punish. (Most ban evaders are caught because they returned to bad behavior almost immediately. And in the process of investigation we'll discover they were also evading a previous ban, so we just shorten the process so that their 2nd/3rd/8th account doesn't go through the normal 3 strikes before being permbanned each time they re-appear and re-break rules. Or the ban evaders are people who haven't submitted proof to our management email to lift their underage ban so we have to assume they're still underage and have to ban their alts for legal reasons.)

ETA: Yay! =)

Updated by anonymous

Welp, that's a game over, I suppose. Fun while it lasted, trying to hunt down who's The Reaper.

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Genjar

Former Staff

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Evading bans are something we do take seriously, but not so seriously that any admin is up late at night pouring over IP records trying to catch The One.

If someone evades their ban, but doesn't cause a disturbance, then mission accomplished.

That seems like a good principle.
And I have a feeling that a lot of regulars were already turning a blind eye when it comes to Reapers' alts. It just didn't feel right to report someone for ban evasion after seeing them contribute that much.

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Genjar said:
It just didn't feel right to report someone for ban evasion after seeing them contribute that much.

Sounds like something a synth would say!

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HotUnderTheCollar said:
What the...? Now he got unbanned? Miscalculation?

Were you not reading the thread? He was only banned for about an hour. They worked out an agreement since he wasn't actually breaking the same rules he was originally banned for.

Updated by anonymous

That was a nice turn of events, a user gets another chance and all is well.

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Ratte

Former Staff

Furrin_Gok said:
Were you not reading the thread? He was only banned for about an hour. They worked out an agreement since he wasn't actually breaking the same rules he was originally banned for.

Indeed.

It was not something we wanted to do as he has been quite helpful for about a year now. I do not think that this good behavior should go ignored, and neither did the rest of us.

Updated by anonymous

So the whole 'Reaper' meme is rendered null and void now that they've stopped screwing with us? ._.

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Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
So the whole 'Reaper' meme is rendered null and void now that they've stopped screwing with us? ._.

Just hope it stays this way.

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aurel said:
Well damn, you got to be the first person to recover from having a perm ban (excluding the underages who grew up)

Magical, truly...
how did you manage?

by being one of the rare individuals who know how to learn

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Hudson

Former Staff

Knotty_Curls said:
by being one of the rare individuals who knows how to learn

True. The vast majority of the bandit territory called the "blocked users section" usually either hits the bricks or is after revenge, with new accounts.

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aurel said:
Well damn, you got to be the first person to recover from having a perm ban (excluding the underages who grew up)

Magical, truly...
how did you manage?

I'm sure my constructive actions (30,000+ tag edits, ~1000 posts, 200+ aliases/implications) far outweighs the bad, which were minor inconveniences at worst. A lot of people will come back purely to mess up tags or post DNP content, which is why I assume this kind of chance is even more rarely given out.

I doubt I'll ever get privileged rank back again though.

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Tuvalu said:
I doubt I'll ever get privileged rank back again though.

Eh, if you work hard, eat your vitamins, say your prayers, keep to your objectives, and be an overall positive influence, anything is possible.

This is coming from someone who used to be Priviledged, and is actually taking the time to go back and fix the mistakes that led to my demotion, instead of simply giving up or self-destructing and leaving behind unnecessary work for others to waste their time fixing.

And I'm balancing my sin harvesting with my budding art hobby, which I hope to one day have blossom.

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GameManiac said:
This is coming from someone who used to be Priviledged, and is actually taking the time to go back and fix the mistakes that led to my demotion, instead of simply giving up or self-destructing and leaving behind unnecessary work for others to waste their time fixing.

*Reads up on records*

Huh, blanket tagging. I see...

Well, at least that solves that mystery, the one of how you managed to get up to 200.000 tag edits within the span of a year. Always wondered about that...
I mean, such numbers going up so fast usually indicates either a worrying lifestyle OR possible 'cheating' of the system.

But hey, good on ya for turning around, and doing what you can in order to make up for the stink it caused! (^v^)

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Tuvalu said:
I'm sure my constructive actions (30,000+ tag edits, ~1000 posts, 200+ aliases/implications) far outweighs the bad, which were minor inconveniences at worst. A lot of people will come back purely to mess up tags or post DNP content, which is why I assume this kind of chance is even more rarely given out.

I doubt I'll ever get privileged rank back again though.

I dunno, man, much as I try to get there for the first time myself, it looks like you're definitely further along to reaching it.

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Jugofthat said:
*Reads up on records*

Huh, blanket tagging. I see...

Well, at least that solves that mystery, the one of how you managed to get up to 200.000 tag edits within the span of a year. Always wondered about that...
I mean, such numbers going up so fast usually indicates either a worrying lifestyle OR possible 'cheating' of the system.

But hey, good on ya for turning around, and doing what you can in order to make up for the stink it caused! (^v^)

...Not all of it was "blanket tagging." I just worked like a machine and (mostly) knew what needed tagging and cleaning up while simultaneously doing it efficiently and in one fell swoop. Look at Wodahseht and all of the res related tagging he's done. That shocked me greatly when I spotted it.

I'm not a bad user, I know that much. I take e621 very seriously and I solely wish to be of help where I'm best able to and contribute with the time and presently understandable limitations given. I'll treat that negative record of mine as a priority of what needs fixing and inch my way along in fixing it.

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