Topic: Tag Alias: d -> dickgirl

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Aliasing d → dickgirl
Link to alias

Reason:

'd' is currently attributed to a character, yet if you check the tags there is clearly no common theme among the pictures. seeing as "herm" and "dickgirl" are separate and 'h' aliases to "herm", it seems reasonable that 'd' would alias to "dickgirl".

Updated by savageorange

aliasing it to dickgirl is bad idea. i coudnt find a single dickgirl from the tag so its not used for dickgirls at all. invalidating is better idea.

Updated by anonymous

Hudson

Former Staff

I have the feeling tags like d are partially just typos created whilst tagging.

Updated by anonymous

First of all, I figured out that "D" is the name of that comic apparently, so I moved all of those into d_(comic) instead. That should make the tag easier to evaluate without that dominating the page of results.

-1 (alternative suggested)
Shortcuts are nice, but I have concerns about single letter ones that could be way too vague. At least when it's in combination with something, it reduces the chance of being mistaken for some other meaning. Something like "dgirl" being used as the shortcut for --> dickgirl would also be more consistent to how cuntboy has "cboy" aliased to it. Both being a lot less likely to be mistaken for another meaning.

For example, I can really see people thinking it'd be just as logical to use "d" is a shortcut for "dick". Phrases like "They want the d" or just "The D = dick" concept are too widespread and popular of an association. This could even explain the images currently tagged "d" since the only two which don't have a penis in them do have balls (a common tagging mistake to make). But keeping tags like dickgirl clean of mistags is often a challenge already without adding an alias which turns out to be too vague.

However, if d isn't being used for "dick", then there isn't a common theme to those images at all. In which case maybe they're typos and still would be a mess to give any other tag.

At the very least the d tag would need to be emptied and aliased to somewhere. I'm just thinking something like d --> penis might be less likely to mistag judging solely by what it's tagged on already. And then alias d-girl, dgirl and d_girl to --> dickgirl instead, to give those shortcuts.

Updated by anonymous

One letter a shortcut does not make.

Things like mlp and fnaf make great shortcuts because what it isn't just e621 that uses those abbreviations.

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GameManiac said:
One letter a shortcut does not make.

Things like mlp and fnaf make great shortcuts because what it isn't just e621 that uses those abbreviations.

So you object to h, then? (presumably not m or f since those -are- used outside of e621 or furry stuff.)

(I don't think d is great. dg might be okay (providing that adding a cb->cuntboy alias was also okay). Furrypickle's suggestion is probably best, but it's not much of an abbreviation once it gets that long.)

Updated by anonymous

savageorange said:
So you object to h, then? (presumably not m or f since those -are- used outside of e621 or furry stuff.)

(I don't think d is great. dg might be okay (providing that adding a cb->cuntboy alias was also okay). Furrypickle's suggestion is probably best, but it's not much of an abbreviation once it gets that long.)

The h alias was done long enough ago that there isn't even a user attached to it. If the d alias is rejected I'd definitely remove that one as well.

The only reason I'm still leaning towards +1 is the m/h, m/d, etc. aliases are definitely still in use (as are m and f), so having them there seems to make more sense than not.

Updated by anonymous

parasprite said:
The h alias was done long enough ago that there isn't even a user attached to it. If the d alias is rejected I'd definitely remove that one as well.

The only reason I'm still leaning towards +1 is the m/h, m/d, etc. aliases are definitely still in use (as are m and f), so having them there seems to make more sense than not.

Personally, I don't want the m and f aliases. Single letter tags should be used to denote a single letter showing up all on its lonesome in the image, in my opinion, whereas single letters for combo tags are fine, because m/f isn't denoting individual letters, but a combination of something.

(If anything, I suppose the best option would be to disambiguate these more common letters to have tags like m_(letter) and define on the disambiguation that "Male should be tagged as male.")

Updated by anonymous

-1
On board with both Pickle'n'boo;
not a fan of shortcuts or acronyms for tagging.

Updated by anonymous

Hudson

Former Staff

Sharp_Coyote said:
-1
On board with both Pickle'n'boo;
not a fan of shortcuts or acronyms for tagging.

It's not a bad thing to abbreviate frequently used tags, but just singular letters are a bit risky.

Updated by anonymous

HotUnderTheCollar said:
It's not a bad thing to abbreviate frequently used tags, but just singular letters are a bit risky.

Are you sure about that? I'd say it is a slippery, messy, confusing slope; I can envision posts tagged thusly:

ad
ai
ag
anal
anthro
ap
bas
ci
cia
cob
cos
cog
cum
duo
female
fim
fot
incest
male
m/f
mlp
nude
pussy
rcp
sibling

I will vote against shortcuts being used in most cases, as it sets precedent for tagging an image like the above example.

(or to summarize: convenience is a poor reason for bad tagging)

Updated by anonymous

Based on the reasons in this thread, I have made the following changes:

  • Alias: d -> dickgirl (denied)
  • Alias: h -> herm (deleted)
  • Alias: d, h -> letter_(disambiguation) (approved) - Because I'd like to know how often these get tagged, and for what. Even if they get removed right away, they will still be visible within the tag history. After that we can decide what to do with them. :)

Updated by anonymous

parasprite said:
Based on the reasons in this thread, I have made the following changes:

  • Alias: d -> dickgirl (denied)
  • Alias: h -> herm (deleted)
  • Alias: d, h -> letter_(disambiguation) (approved) - Because I'd like to know how often these get tagged, and for what. Even if they get removed right away, they will still be visible within the tag history. After that we can decide what to do with them. :)

Yeah, I'm curious about that too. I would have guessed that tagging specific letters is generally pointless (excessively specific + minor part of picture == won't be remembered to use for search) and that monogram (for letterhead type use, where a single letter is made an artwork) or typography (for an artwork which includes lettering that is itself clearly an artwork rather than mainly functional) would function better.

(seems there are a few misc related terms in this area that might need cleanup -- tag search for *letter* picks up some: balloon_letters candy_cane_letters letter_d {{white_letters} love_letters (plus a few others that are neither obviously inappropriate or obviously correct).
)

Updated by anonymous

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