Topic: First time tooltips

Posted under General

To enable new users to quickly start being productive taggers and whatnot I thought it would be a nice idea to add account-bound interface tooltips. I was inspired by this since it happened a few times that users told me what species it was after I tagged "unknown species" on my uploads, when they could have changed it themselves.

Examples:

Point to the edit button with a box that says:
"Click here to edit tags, source and rating! Everyone is encouraged to help!"
and a button that says: "Understood!"

Point to the upload button with a box that says:
"Upload images that aren't here yet! But check the dnp[hyperlink] beforehand."

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Akkira said:
To enable new users to quickly start being productive taggers and whatnot I thought it would be a nice idea to add account-bound interface tooltips. I was inspired by this since it happened a few times that users told me what species it was after I tagged "unknown species" on my uploads, when they could have changed it themselves.

Examples:

Point to the edit button with a box that says:
"Click here to edit tags, source and rating! Everyone is encouraged to help!"
and a button that says: "Understood!"

Point to the upload button with a box that says:
"Upload images that aren't here yet! But check the dnp[hyperlink] beforehand."

It would have be done right, but this is a good idea. I think so anyways

Updated by anonymous

There could be a script that if user have a "repost" word in comment, there would be alert box "Don't say it's repost in comment, parent/flag it instead!"

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Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
There could be a script that if user have a "repost" word in comment, there would be alert box "Don't say it's repost in comment, parent/flag it instead!"

Diminishing returns: The bandwidth used to send that additional code for every single image page every single time, versus how many times someone is actually making a comment with that word in it, minus the ones who say "same as X" or "isn't this just like Y" without even using the word at all.

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Foobaria said:
Diminishing returns: The bandwidth used to send that additional code for every single image page every single time, versus how many times someone is actually making a comment with that word in it, minus the ones who say "same as X" or "isn't this just like Y" without even using the word at all.

<script type="text/javascript">
	jQuery(function ($) {$('#comments>div:last textarea').bind('input', function f() {
		if (/\b(?:repost of|same as|just like)\s+\w* *#?\d+/i.test(this.value)) {
			alert('Don\'t say it\'s a repost in the comments! Parent/flag it instead!');
			$(this).unbind('input', f);
		}
	})});
</script>

That's literally not even 1/3 of a kilobyte, and considering how most modern browsers cache external resources anyway, bandwidth is really a non-issue.

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Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
There could be a script that if user have a "repost" word in comment, there would be alert box "Don't say it's repost in comment, parent/flag it instead!"

With valid reasons to use the word repost, wouldn't that get annoying?

Foobaria said:
Diminishing returns: The bandwidth used to send that additional code for every single image page every single time, versus how many times someone is actually making a comment with that word in it, minus the ones who say "same as X" or "isn't this just like Y" without even using the word at all.

That's really not going to use much bandwidth compared to the countless amounts of ~2 MB files downloaded every second.

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720p said:
With valid reasons to use the word repost, wouldn't that get annoying?

What are those valid reasons? When I was searching for dupes significant part of them had "it's a repost" comment underneath. Some people even bothered to write "it's a repost of xxx". Nobody bothered to even parent it, not to mention flag it. Still, because I was searching in ischild:false isparent:false my sample is biased.

And my suggestion wasn't really serious, but rather made out of irritation of this, and was intended to sound similar to first two examples in this thread.

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720p said:
With valid reasons to use the word repost, wouldn't that get annoying?

WIth MaShCr's code, that would only hit the following:
"Repost of #<id>"
"Repost of <id>"
"Repost of post #<id>"
"Repost of post <id>"
"Repost of post#<id>"
"Repost of post<id>"
any of the above, with "repost of" replaced by "same as", or "just like".

actually, it will hit "<"repost of" or "same as" or "just like"><at least one space><any number (0+) of letters and digits><any number (0+) of spaces><a # character, or nothing><at least one digit>", which covers all sorts of misspellings but retains a small false positive rate

As long as it doesn't prevent you from posting, the false positive rate ought to be totally acceptable. Ideally the dialogue would say something like:

Identifying reposts in the comments section will not get them to the staff's attention. If you believe this post is a repost, please set the better-quality post as the parent of the duplicate, and then flag the lower-quality post for deletion as a duplicate. If you were not intending to identify this post as a repost in your comment, we apologize for the inconvenience.
[]My commment is not intended to inform staff of a repost*
I understand that comments are not a substitute for proper flagging, but need to post this comment anyway because:
-[]I have read Help:Flag For Deletion and I still don't understand how to properly flag a duplicate.
-[]some other legitimate reason I haven't thought of
[post anyway <greyed out until any checkbox is marked>] [cancel]

*This covers "unrelated" false positives (someone was talking about something completely different and ran afoul of the regex), as well as things like "This looks like a repost of #XYZZY, but in fact it isn't, because I gave her a penis."

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Char

Former Staff

Definitely an idea I can get behind, but the issue is that there's already so much going on that needs to be done.

We're pushing to have the site get a desperately needed makeover in the future, but there's simply not telling right now when that would happen. Definitely something that needs to happen though.

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Char said:
Definitely an idea I can get behind, but the issue is that there's already so much going on that needs to be done.

We're pushing to have the site get a desperately needed makeover in the future, but there's simply not telling right now when that would happen. Definitely something that needs to happen though.

It simply would be a nice feature to get new users involved more easily. I would make the one time first time tooltips account bound though, otherwise it could be annoying for users that don't want to log in or use different computers etc.

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