Topic: The art thief "salvador-lol"

Posted under Art Talk

So it was brought to my attention by another user that an "artist" on Deviant Art by the handle salvador-lol has been posting work on his DA Page done by other artists with the signatures obliterated or otherwise obscured.

I urge anyone who can contact the original copyright holders of the work he has posted there to do so and inform them of the theft. Since DA Only accepts DMCA claims from first party (even if proof of theft is hosted on their own site) copyright holders this is the only way to get this theft stopped. I have contacted a few of the artists about this, but I believe the more people who put the information out, the more likely there is to be a response.

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leomole

Former Staff

DA's art theft policy is terrible. It puts the burden on artists, who often don't even speak English, to go through their forms. Any user should be able to show DA that a certain user's pictures come from other original sources that are bigger or include the original signature and get it taken down.

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Pasiphaë said:
So it was brought to my attention by another user that an "artist" on Deviant Art by the handle salvador-lol has been posting work on his DA Page done by other artists with the signatures obliterated or otherwise obscured.

I urge anyone who can contact the original copyright holders of the work he has posted there to do so and inform them of the theft. Since DA Only accepts DMCA claims from first party (even if proof of theft is hosted on their own site) copyright holders this is the only way to get this theft stopped. I have contacted a few of the artists about this, but I believe the more people who put the information out, the more likely there is to be a response.

Judging by the comments section of his account, as well as his username (the "lol" part) he probably started his account with the full intention of stealing art because he knows dA won't do jack squat to stop him.

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leomole said:
DA's art theft policy is terrible. It puts the burden on artists, who often don't even speak English, to go through their forms. Any user should be able to show DA that a certain user's pictures come from other original sources that are bigger or include the original signature and get it taken down.

You'd think after all this time DA would have upgraded their security policies. THey're just harboring thieves which can get them into trouble.

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leomole said:
DA's art theft policy is terrible. It puts the burden on artists, who often don't even speak English, to go through their forms. Any user should be able to show DA that a certain user's pictures come from other original sources that are bigger or include the original signature and get it taken down.

Manasgael said:
Judging by the comments section of his account, as well as his username (the "lol" part) he probably started his account with the full intention of stealing art because he knows dA won't do jack squat to stop him.

It's not terrible, it's the bare minimum of what's required under the Digital-Millenium-Copyright-Act.
It's also understandable in their position. With the amount of traffic they get they would otherwise get swarmed with 3rd party takedowns for the smallest BS. Especially on the internet with rabid hordes of fans and white knights it's a smart move to only allow the proper copyright holders to file requests in the first place.
If they would allow that it'd just become another tumblr like place where blogs get shut down just because the report function got abused and triggered the automatic deletion.

Furrin_Gok said:
You'd think after all this time DA would have upgraded their security policies. THey're just harboring thieves which can get them into trouble.

They won't get into any trouble. Under the DMCA they only can get hit if they decline DMCA takedown requests from the copyright holder(s). As long as it's just random people getting mad they don't have to fear or do anything.
This would look differently for copyrighted material that is being sold somewhere, but it's rather unlikely that someone uploads pay content to DA in the first place.

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I'm also seeing tons of FNAF World screenshots and artwork, stocks, memes and one image that's clearly porn. It's bit weird how all those seem to be allowed, but I guess that's DA.

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They all have their own categories (Just that for the majority of people, sorting their art on the good category is too much work to handle for their brain) so it is indeed allowed and fine for them. For porn, their basic rules are no child porn (obviously) and no sexual scenes, sexual intercourse, masturbation, genital fluids and what not, but everything else is all fine

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Siral_Exan said:
And it was a resounding success! Salvador-lol's account is now deactivated.

care to help with atlasf4? i know i've been bitching about him for about a week now, and i'm sorry. But he's another art thief from FA and here who traces, then mixes drawings together making frankenstein art from existing pieces. the ones that where direct traces were removed.

this is VISIBLE PROOF he takes peaces of different drawings
and mixes them after tracing.
switch between them if you have to.
take a good look and tell me i'm wrong for shouting "thief"
!

zanjll said:
and should we ignore this because it's "just the same pose"?
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/19825161/ ← atlas

https://e621.net/post/show/433140/anthro-balls-black_fur-black_nose-breasts-brown_fu ← actual

zanjll said:
or this
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19823632/ ←atlas
which is a clone of this
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19823256/ ←also atlas
which uses this head
https://e621.net/post/show/559588/animatronic-anthro-black_nipples-bonnie_-fnaf-brea
and these two bodies.

zanjll said:
this
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19823632/ ←atlas
of coarse using this hand
https://e621.net/post/show/518561/anthro-anus-bedroom_eyes-butt-canine-claws-ear_pie

again, i'm sorry but there are too many "similar" pictures by other artist he was caught stealing from before to be able to trust him, and i'm not the only one to catch him doing it.

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NotMeNotYou said:
It's not terrible, it's the bare minimum of what's required under the Digital-Millenium-Copyright-Act.
It's also understandable in their position. With the amount of traffic they get they would otherwise get swarmed with 3rd party takedowns for the smallest BS. Especially on the internet with rabid hordes of fans and white knights it's a smart move to only allow the proper copyright holders to file requests in the first place.
If they would allow that it'd just become another tumblr like place where blogs get shut down just because the report function got abused and triggered the automatic deletion.

They won't get into any trouble. Under the DMCA they only can get hit if they decline DMCA takedown requests from the copyright holder(s). As long as it's just random people getting mad they don't have to fear or do anything.
This would look differently for copyrighted material that is being sold somewhere, but it's rather unlikely that someone uploads pay content to DA in the first place.

Its not 3rd Party Claims that bother me. Though I have seen people on YouTube get DMCA claims from them that were clearly NOT placed by the copyright holder (happens a lot, especially because their Content ID Matching for audio is so fierce).

What bothers me is an artist will post original art on their site. Then if a thief steals it and puts it on his DA Page on the site, that alone is not enough for them to take action. The original Artist still has to make a claim, even though any user with a brain and eyes can see the images are the same or only slightly modified...lol

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zanjll said:
care to help with atlasf4? i know i've been bitching about him for about a week now, and i'm sorry. But he's another art thief from FA and here who traces, then mixes drawings together making frankenstein art from existing pieces. the ones that where direct traces were removed.

Frankly, I don't see why anyone would care about that. 'just scrubs the signature and replaces with their own' == definite art thief. 'exact trace of the entire image' : ehh.. maybe could be art thief, depends on interpretation. 'traces various bits of various images and combines those traces' : that's really just art, albeit shitty and derivative.

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Pasiphaë said:
So it was brought to my attention by another user that an "artist" on Deviant Art by the handle salvador-lol has been posting work on his DA Page done by other artists with the signatures obliterated or otherwise obscured.

I urge anyone who can contact the original copyright holders of the work he has posted there to do so and inform them of the theft. Since DA Only accepts DMCA claims from first party (even if proof of theft is hosted on their own site) copyright holders this is the only way to get this theft stopped. I have contacted a few of the artists about this, but I believe the more people who put the information out, the more likely there is to be a response.

Track his cellphone to pinpoint his location, leave gourds on his property,start with 1 or 2 in subtle locations then gradually increase the number of gourds and placed in more prominent locations, watch as the man slowly desends into insanity, with an obsession and paranoid level fear of gourds. One final day, carefully place a gourd in the bed next to him while he's asleep, with a note attached "never steal from the gourds", with gourds surrounding him in his room.

At that point his life and mental state, will have fallen apart. He will no longer steal any furry porn art from you. Instead spending the rest of his days strapped to a chair rambling about gourds.

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Well, I personally don't consider tracing a form of stealing.
Back in the days when I was learning (something different) I did too copy the people I liked.
Copying is best form of learning.

P.S. I do not know the whole story but i had a need to share my view on the tracing.

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My method of "teaching" to people is to trace a person's character multiple times, then have them do it without reference; rinse and repeat for several characters and positions, then tell them to make their character with literally nothing but what they draw with...

BUT I ALWAYS SAY DO NOT UPLOAD THOSE IMAGES because it's against the rules. With Salvador, it was a simple tell every artist I source'd & have them report, but this'll be a little bit harder because I won't be able to use Harry.lu to reliably source for me... If anyone else wants to help out, please do so.

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