tee-hee
people gave money to that.. monthly tee-heee
now you have to find a real job~

what

Context: http://breedingseasongame.blogspot.de/2016/07/breeding-season-is-over-s-purple-has.html?zx=5d04317b75aafa48

TL;DR: The game got cancelled. The co-owner S-Purple of the project decided to run off with half the money (~190k) and half the art assets created. This leaves the game with nothing. The other owner of the project (HartistaPipebomb) also can't buy out the assets, since the dude isn't selling. Effectively killing the game.

GG

Well s**t that sucks. I had such high hopes for the game too.

Ouch. Reminds me of the 3DS chip decaping fundraiser. The guy took the $3000+ and ran. =>.<=

https://youtu.be/4JuK1Yr35Io?t=7s

aw damn, i was waiting for the game to be finished, it seemed very promising :/

NotMeNotYou said:
Context: http://breedingseasongame.blogspot.de/2016/07/breeding-season-is-over-s-purple-has.html?zx=5d04317b75aafa48

TL;DR: The game got cancelled. The co-owner S-Purple of the project decided to run off with half the money (~190k) and half the art assets created. This leaves the game with nothing. The other owner of the project (HartistaPipebomb) also can't buy out the assets, since the dude isn't selling. Effectively killing the game.

GG

While he can't be sued for taking the art (He owns half rights to it), can't he be sued for not doing the job he was being paid to do?

S had gone entirely behind our backs to spend an entire month's worth of work (for which he collected over $9,000 of patron money, by the way) working on a new project that he planned to abandon Breeding Season entirely for.

That's a month's worth of pay he essentially stole from consumers.

Crowdfunding: Swindling for everybody.

I have noticed some of the art before. Maybe a takedown is imminent?

I had suspected something like that for a while. The amount of money poured into the project just didn't match the results, so there had to be something wrong behind the scenes.

Nosret said:
tee-hee
people gave money to that.. monthly tee-heee
now you have to find a real job~

You sound like a really petty person.

From reading the article it seems the writer should also take some blame. Seems he blindly trusted someone, giving them far too much power than a stranger deserves, and was then surprised when that stranger turned out to be a cunt.

Peekaboo said:
From reading the article it seems the writer should also take some blame. Seems he blindly trusted someone, giving them far too much power than a stranger deserves, and was then surprised when that stranger turned out to be a cunt.

Yeah as someone commented on that article they said he should have run it like a corporation(If I recall right. I mostly skimmed over it) and not a partnership. As well as offer up some form a of ownership(Again if I recall right) to the corporation and not the revenue, therefore providing incentive to work on the project. Or so the commenter said anyway.

Will say project lead most certainly should have had tighter hold on the reins. I hope he doesn't give up making games though and uses this experience as a lesson. If he does then I'll be more then willing to support him in future projects.

United_Gamers said:
Will say project lead most certainly should have had tighter hold on the reins. I hope he doesn't give up making games though and uses this experience as a lesson. If he does then I'll be more then willing to support him in future projects.

You should probably take your own advice.

Beanjam said:
You should probably take your own advice.

I didn't say I would support his next project because the potential to make another mistake is there, just his future projects if he takes this lesson to heart.

Lol I do like how you picked up on my wording though. Might have to watch myself with you.

It's like he's trying to become the victim of a tragic accident.

Beanjam said:
You should probably take your own advice.

I'm confused on what this means. Are you saying that all patreons are fictional and nonexistant, only there to drain us of money and given us no rewards whatsoever? People often times only subscribe to a low fee for these things, so it's not like it's a lot of money lost per person, just a great number of persons who lost small amounts.

Fenrick said:
It's like he's trying to become the victim of a tragic accident.

How so? How does informing people off the theft of nine thousand dollars put somebody onto a hitlist to suffer a tragic accident?

Nosret said:
tee-hee
people gave money to that.. monthly tee-heee
now you have to find a real job~

lolwow, way to be a complete and utter dickhead about it.

S-Purple, is that you?

But hey, at least workong on a sex game is more fufilling and interesting of a job than you could ever hope for~

Furrin_Gok said:
I'm confused on what this means. Are you saying that all patreons are fictional and nonexistant, only there to drain us of money and given us no rewards whatsoever? People often times only subscribe to a low fee for these things, so it's not like it's a lot of money lost per person, just a great number of persons who lost small amounts.

You should read the entire quotation chain before replying. No one said anything about patreon.

Flame-LoneWolf said:
lolwow, way to be a complete and utter dickhead about it.

S-Purple, is that you?

But hey, at least workong on a sex game is more fufilling and interesting of a job than you could ever hope for~

I'm pretty sure he is making fun of S-Purple.

Beanjam said:
You should read the entire quotation chain before replying. No one said anything about patreon.

While he did not actually say "I will support you through patreon," patreon is probably what the guy will use if he ever starts up a new project, so that's what United Gaming would support him through. Some things are implied despite not being outright stated.

Chaser said:
I'm pretty sure he is making fun of S-Purple.

Makes sense, but it doesn't feel that way.

Furrin_Gok said:
How so? How does informing people off the theft of nine thousand dollars put somebody onto a hitlist to suffer a tragic accident?

I was talking about the thief, whose identity is known to everyone else involved.

I've never heard of this game before. It's not particularly relevant to my interests, so I guess I just never happened across it.

Honestly I have trouble even blaming S-Purple. This was completely mishandled from the start. If you have a project, don't give anyone the power to kill it single-handedly.

It would seem to me that something about this should qualify as illegal though. He was paid to do a task, it seems to me that failing to do that task and yet taking the money would violate... some law, somehow.

However, whenever I see these sorts of things, I always have my doubts. Gross mishandling, someone taking the money, the project failing to be accomplished... I wonder sometimes in these cases if they struck up a deal to take the money and run - together.

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but if you look at it from that perspective, both end up with half the money without needing to deliver a product.

Clawdragons said:
I've never heard of this game before. It's not particularly relevant to my interests, so I guess I just never happened across it.

Honestly I have trouble even blaming S-Purple. This was completely mishandled from the start. If you have a project, don't give anyone the power to kill it single-handedly.

It would seem to me that something about this should qualify as illegal though. He was paid to do a task, it seems to me that failing to do that task and yet taking the money would violate... some law, somehow.

However, whenever I see these sorts of things, I always have my doubts. Gross mishandling, someone taking the money, the project failing to be accomplished... I wonder sometimes in these cases if they struck up a deal to take the money and run - together.

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but if you look at it from that perspective, both end up with half the money without needing to deliver a product.

The guy made mention at the end of his post about how his dropbox has an easy password, and "oh no somebody might post it to Legend of Krystal forums or something." Seems to me he really does want to just give what is there to the public.

Furrin_Gok said:
While he did not actually say "I will support you through patreon," patreon is probably what the guy will use if he ever starts up a new project, so that's what United Gaming would support him through. Some things are implied despite not being outright stated.

What was implied was that we were talking about Hartista Pipebomb's inability manage a project with multiple people. Patreon's business model is something purely brought in by you.

This game's been dead in the water for a while now. It's just been a money mooching farm ever since the art was redone and they started taking ages to release content.
Anybody still supporting it after it went downhill was just asking to get ripped off.
That being said it's disappointing that it was cancelled.

Seen this coming. I mean.. can't make thirty+ grand a month and accomplish virtually nothing for the longest time and expect things to turn out alright.

Frankly, they should have focused way more on actually getting the game done as opposed to all the damn art upgrades, then maybe they'd have split up and people'd been on other projects soon enough that this wouldn't'a happened.

Gotta wonder where some people's sense is sometimes.

Beanjam said:
You should probably take your own advice.

That was the first he managed a project of that size. I do blame him for trusting a stranger, but at some point you need experience first before you know exactly from where problems can rise.

Personally I'd be interested in the details of the contract. Depending on how that contract was set up there might a clause against gross misconduct which would allow that bomb dude to sue s-purple for everything he earned and owns.

NotMeNotYou said:
That was the first he managed a project of that size. I do blame him for trusting a stranger, but at some point you need experience first before you know exactly from where problems can rise.

Personally I'd be interested in the details of the contract. Depending on how that contract was set up there might a clause against gross misconduct which would allow that bomb dude to sue s-purple for everything he earned and owns.

He's been working on this with a team for almost 3 years now.

Beanjam said:
He's been working on this with a team for almost 3 years now.

Can't really change up the contract, though. Once it's in play, it' there to stay.

Wait, that was funded? I though this was just something someone was throwing together in their down time.

Genjar said:
I had suspected something like that for a while. The amount of money poured into the project just didn't match the results, so there had to be something wrong behind the scenes.

I concur.

Furrin_Gok said:
Can't really change up the contract, though. Once it's in play, it' there to stay.

The contract is hardly the only thing going wrong with the project or even the worst thing about the project.

Beanjam said:
The contract is hardly the only thing going wrong with the project or even the worst thing about the project.

That contract was the very first thing to go wrong, though. Since that contract predates the entire rest of the project and, according to HBomb, gave S-Purple almost unchecked power to piss over everything and everyone.
A bad move on HBomb's part, but not one that could have been fixed without S-Purple's consent. And quite frankly S-Purple would have been stupid if he would have agreed to a new contract that would strip him of his power and $190.000.

So, HBomb realized rather soon that the contract was a horrible idea, but at that point it was no longer negotiable and could not be removed without killing the project much earlier.

NotMeNotYou said:
That contract was the very first thing to go wrong, though. Since that contract predates the entire rest of the project and, according to HBomb, gave S-Purple almost unchecked power to piss over everything and everyone.
A bad move on HBomb's part, but not one that could have been fixed without S-Purple's consent. And quite frankly S-Purple would have been stupid if he would have agreed to a new contract that would strip him of his power and $190.000.

So, HBomb realized rather soon that the contract was a horrible idea, but at that point it was no longer negotiable and could not be removed without killing the project much earlier.

So instead of being incompetent, he lied to his supporters and took their money for 3 years to pay for his mistake? Lol he should run for President.

I could understand it being donated to as in to support creators, but I never understood that this was as widely funded as it was until I looked at the patreon, maybe I missed something crucial about it... But i never thought it deserved that kind of money.

I didn't pour any money into it, but I was so looking forward to when it would finally be done. This whole set up a program that pulls over 6 figures out of people and deliver nothing (or an incomplete product) crap has been happening a lot in recent times and it is sad.

Beanjam said:
So instead of being incompetent, he lied to his supporters and took their money for 3 years to pay for his mistake? Lol he should run for President.

Literally all you are contributing to this thread is just shitposting at everyone hoping that what you say ends up funny, stop, you are being annoying, friend.

Though in relation to what you said, h bomb probably would've closed the company if he knew what s purple was gonna do, unfortunately, not everybody is a mind reader or psychic. H bomb instead ran with it and hoped that s purple wouldnt try to fuck them over. It was literally the only move he could make in that situation, due to contracts, and a lack of desire to do exactly what s purple did.

Beanjam said:
So instead of being incompetent, he lied to his supporters and took their money for 3 years to pay for his mistake? Lol he should run for President.

HBomb didn't lie to anybody. He made it clear up front that him and S-Purple are the co-owners of the project. Literally nobody in their right mind publishes details of a private contract unless ordered by a court. The bare notion that this constitutes as "lying to the supporters" in your mind is ridiculous.

Quoted from S-Purple's tumblr page.

Finally, I need to say I’m shocked and dismayed by his efforts to dox me and in pirating my work since by the contract we both signed at the beginning of this, he couldn’t have it to himself, I never expected him to be happy about what was going down, but this is behavior is unacceptable. By releasing my real life information, he’s put my family in fear, and that’s wrong both professionally and morally.

They also mention being quite confident that "Nothing (they) have done has opened me up to legal action in any way," which stands to actually be seen.

This person's clearly never seen what a good lawyer can do to with a signed contract, a week, and a man's asshole and wallet.

NotMeNotYou said:
HBomb didn't lie to anybody. He made it clear up front that him and S-Purple are the co-owners of the project. Literally nobody in their right mind publishes details of a private contract unless ordered by a court. The bare notion that this constitutes as "lying to the supporters" in your mind is ridiculous.

Being co-owner of the project != unchecked power to piss over everything and everyone. If everything that went wrong with the project was because of S-Purple stonewalling because of a bad contract for 3 years, then yeah, that sounds like a pretty cut and dry lie of omission to me. There's no getting around that.

Beanjam said:
Being co-owner of the project != unchecked power to piss over everything and everyone. If everything that went wrong with the project was because of S-Purple stonewalling because of a bad contract for 3 years, then yeah, that sounds like a pretty cut and dry lie of omission to me. There's no getting around that.

Honestly I think that by stopping the project early, HBomb could have started up a new project and still had the support of people. Since the new project would mean S-Purple refused the new contract, HBomb could just say "Unfortunately, due to a disagreement over the contract, we couldn't keep S-Purple on, and had to start a new project."
But hindsight is 20/20, foresight is not.

Sounds like another Beast's Fury to me