Sure there's equine_penis but not every artist draws that little straw of a protruding urethra (I guess protruding_urethra might be an alternative tag). Actually I think most of them don't, even if they've gotten everything else correct. Anyway just curious if I've missed a tag someone made for it.

Fun fact: "medial ring" is a made-up term. The proper anatomical name is "preputial ring"

"Medial ring" is actually a "structure in fission yeast".

KevSnowcat said:
Sure there's equine_penis but not every artist draws that little straw of a protruding urethra (I guess protruding_urethra might be an alternative tag). Actually I think most of them don't, even if they've gotten everything else correct. Anyway just curious if I've missed a tag someone made for it.

Fun fact: "medial ring" is a made-up term. The proper anatomical name is "preputial ring"

"Medial ring" is actually a "structure in fission yeast".

Would you be so nice and link an example or two of the urethral process you speak of please.

• EDIT to be claer drawings or paintings only^^:

Please don't link to close up photos of animal penises here, thankyouverymuch.

Yeah I figured that would be a bad idea. Here's a few that show it.

https://e621.net/post/show/1055426/
https://e621.net/post/show/939623/
https://e621.net/post/show/581464/

Which took me a bit of searching to find, actually. I just find it really /weird/ that so many artists draw equine anatomy 99% perfectly, but then just draw the urethra as a hole.

I think the protruding_urethra idea sounds a lot better. When I read the topic title, my mind first went to like....The process of urethra...ing...something.... Probably for anything less than super common terminology, leaning more descriptive is probably more user friendly.

More examples: post #264705 post #488465

While I'm not against the tag, I'm quite for it actually, I somewhat doubt the usefulness of it.

how to define thru

as in some species the same name does seem to be applied to a outgrowth of the glans while in others like horses its just the walls of the urethra

https://en.wikivet.net/Penis_-_Anatomy_&_Physiology#Glans_Penis_morphology (penis sketches...)

I'd be fine with protruding_urethra. I actually thought I remembered that being a minor but used tag but it wasn't!

With rams and such it's also known as a filiform appendage, but urethral process is also used.

Or maybe equine_urethra for horses and ovine_urethra for rams/goats/etc.

I just wish I could get people to stop using "medial ring", Zeta probably came up with a "pseudoscientific" sounding word because they couldn't remember the real name! #pedantic

notnobody said:
I think the protruding_urethra idea sounds a lot better. When I read the topic title, my mind first went to like....The process of urethra...ing...something.... Probably for anything less than super common terminology, leaning more descriptive is probably more user friendly.

I thought it was for the use of sounding rods or urethral beads.

KevSnowcat said:
I'd be fine with protruding_urethra. I actually thought I remembered that being a minor but used tag but it wasn't!

With rams and such it's also known as a filiform appendage, but urethral process is also used.

Or maybe equine_urethra for horses and ovine_urethra for rams/goats/etc.

I just wish I could get people to stop using "medial ring", Zeta probably came up with a "pseudoscientific" sounding word because they couldn't remember the real name! #pedantic

This also sometimes appears with humanoid_penises; take a look at minus8's art.

On one hand protruding_urethra might be clearer, on the other hand only people who know what it means would even look for the tag.

Also still wondering if equine_urethra might be better so it only returns horses and not art with strange or gore anatomy.

KevSnowcat said:
On one hand protruding_urethra might be clearer, on the other hand only people who know what it means would even look for the tag.

Also still wondering if equine_urethra might be better so it only returns horses and not art with strange or gore anatomy.

protruding_urethra equine_penis would also work. The generic tag is more flexible.

KevSnowcat said:
On one hand protruding_urethra might be clearer, on the other hand only people who know what it means would even look for the tag.

Also still wondering if equine_urethra might be better so it only returns horses and not art with strange or gore anatomy.

People who see "Urethral Process" might think it's an invalid tag and remove it, while people who see "Protruding Urethra" would realize what it means or be more tempted to look into what the others are.

Also, singling it out to a specific species sounds like a bad idea. Just use protruding_urethra equine_penis.

Yeah I guess protruding_urethra with a tag alias on urethral_process would work best.

I'm still unclear on how to even start a new tag without people removing it.

+1 for urethral_process, &

aliasing urethral_process <\-> protruding_urethra

PS: apparently, the urethral fossa is the 'pit' surrounding the urethral process

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Didn't know any of that, interesting
Never really bothered to look up the medial ring thing, but come to think of it, I haven't ever heard it being used outside of 'furry' communities

Aww, I liked medial_ring. It tells it like it is. Medial = middle, ring = ring, middle ring around the penis.

titanmelon said:
PS: apparently, the urethral fossa is the 'pit' surrounding the urethral process.
Never really bothered to look up the medial ring thing, but come to think of it, I haven't ever heard it being used outside of 'furry' communities

Urethral fossa would be a neat tag but since you can't really "see" it unless you have a cutaway view it would be even rarer than urethral process.

You know, unless someone wiggled fingers in there and spread it open a little... though you'd probably get your paw hoofstomped for that. ;3

Knot is also a term that I never saw in reproductive chapters when I studied veterinary stuff (which is kind of odd since they -do- use "copulatory tie"), but would call the knot the "bulb" if they didn't use "bulbus glandis". But people use knot as a common descriptive slang term, while they use "medial ring" thinking it sounds like a fancy veterinary term and it's just completely made up out of nowhere. ¬_¬

Technically speaking at some point every word was made up, the established words were just made up so long ago that they're accepted as is.

So do I just start adding the tag to relevant pics or how do new tags work?

Urethral_process seems too complex for this site. We're not trying to replicate a dictionary or wikipedia.

Medial_ring is better than preputial_ring, and protruding_urethra is better than urethral_process. Because the meaning of the former can be grasped from the tag name (even among our foreign users), and they're easy names to remember and spell. The same can't be said about the alternatives.

There does seem to be more of a trend here to use proper terminology though, fellatio instead of blow_job, penis instead of cock, heterochromia instead of bicolor_eyes, penis_in_penis instead of cock_fucking, etc.

KevSnowcat said:
There does seem to be more of a trend here to use proper terminology though, fellatio instead of blow_job, penis instead of cock, heterochromia instead of bicolor_eyes, penis_in_penis instead of cock_fucking, etc.

Penis and urethral_process are not in the same ballpark of complexity. As for heterochromia, we've considered replacing it. Because of this.

Genjar said:
As for heterochromia, we've considered replacing it. Because of this]

My sides

Genjar said:
this

How the fuck did that happen?

Genjar said:
As for heterochromia, we've considered replacing it. Because of this.

OMFG XD

As to the proposed tag, how about building on an existing tag? This is essentially puffy_anus applied to a different hole. SO how about puffy_urethra? at least it shouldn't be too hard to figure out what the tag means (nothing infuriates me more than seeing a tag and not having any idea what it's referring to in the image).

Holy hetero-chlamydia, batman. That's pretty intense. Makes me wonder if a spell-checking feature would be worth considering adding. It might be hard to actually preempt searches. I'll enter one in another topic...

I don't know that puffy urethra would make sense, just because in that case, a particularly thick-looking penile underside would seem to be indicated by that. Protruding still seems like the top contender to me. Or possibly long? But that would be a little confusing too.

But are we overthinking this all? I mean, are horse dicks literally the only ones that have this? Because if so, properly used equine_penis and anatomically_correct together would seem to cover that pretty effectively.

notnobody said:
Because if so, properly used equine_penis and anatomically_correct together would seem to cover that pretty effectively.

A non-equine characters with an equine penis wouldn't be anatomically correct. You'd still need the protruding_urethra tag.

I guess I was thinking in terms of the penis itself being anatomically correct, but what you're pointing out is sort of a more general weakness in tag-based searching. Like if you searched that same set of things, you could equally validly get an image with two characters, one out of an equine anatomy textbook but no visible penis, and another lovecraftian horror with a crazy horse-looking dick attached. Nobody's come up with a reliable solution for that type of problem so far - just either ultra-specific or ultra-expansive tags, neither of which are usually broadly accepted.

The only way you could completely avoid the "one thing with each" issue is to have a tag for every possible combination of things which could result in millions of extra tags, so that won't work. Hell, gender_species combos alone would create over 20000 new tags. Repurposing a tag that's been used over 7000 times isn't the answer either. The only time you can search two things and get both things as intended every time is searching solo with something and even that fails sometimes. Beyond that, you kinda have to live with the fact that combinations sometimes find things you don't want. Most images under a protruding_urethra tag would be ones containing equine penises anyway so this is only an issue if you want non-equine penises with a protruding_urethra.

Also as mentioned at the beginning a lot of artists draw horsecock perfectly... except the urethra.

I mean, the other option would be to tag any artwork without it as anatomically_incorrect and remove anatomically_correct. :D

puffy_urethra sounds more like if someone drew a cockslit stretched out after cock fucking. I think protruding_urethra would be the best tag, though it's a bit long. Might end up seeing some interesting non-equine penis artwork that warrants the tag.

Still gonna be grumpy about medial_ring though, it's not a colloquialism that slowly worked into the language like knot, it's just one person who happened to have a popular website that didn't know the correct term and pulled something out of thin air. ;P I know it won't change, but people should still learn the right term!

(hmm, the forum seems to edit out a lot of my spacing the first time I post then when I edit and re-save it's corrected... not sure if it's just showing that in my outdated browser or it's showing that to everyone)

I sincerely hope you are joking about anatomically_incorrect, Kev, because that tag has been discussed before in a multitude of situations.

Yes it was a joke. :P I did notice a lot of tags aliased to invalid_tag that I don't understand why they weren't aliased to an existing tag.

multiple_characters (group_sex?), no_balls (castration? eunuch?), cocksleeve (sex_toy?), well_endowed (big_penis?), flare (equine_penis?), just to name a few that stood out when glancing over the list.

KevSnowcat said:
Yes it was a joke. :P I did notice a lot of tags aliased to invalid_tag that I don't understand why they weren't aliased to an existing tag.

- multiple_characters (group_sex?)
Not necessarily sex, and not necessarily group - Two is still multiple.

- no_balls (castration? eunuch?)
Could also refer to herms without balls.

- cocksleeve (sex_toy?)
Cocksleeve is sometimes used to refer to characters - similar to "slut".

- well_endowed (big_penis?)
Could also mean breasts.

- flare (equine_penis?)
Not entirely sure on this, but it could certainly be used to refer to the pyrotechnic device.

The things you listed can't simply be aliased to an existing tag because that would result in mistags. Their meaning is not clear, and they could potentially refer to several different things.

KevSnowcat said:puffy_urethra sounds more like if someone drew a cockslit stretched out after cock fucking. I think protruding_urethra would be the best tag, though it's a bit long. Might end up seeing some interesting non-equine penis artwork that warrants the tag.

I don't have a link to the pictures, but I have seen an artist who draws protruding urethras on dog penises. I never knew it had a name until I saw your post!

I agree that "puffy_urethra" doesn't sound exactly like what you're trying to describe. To me it sounds like something big and round (probably because I'm used to seeing puffy_anus) rather than the tip of something showing.

wolftacos said:
I don't have a link to the pictures, but I have seen an artist who draws protruding urethras on dog penises. I never knew it had a name until I saw your post!

Interesting. I've only ever seen it on non-equines that somehow happen to have equine junk anyway.

Guess it's time to start tagging!

Circeus said:
OMFG XD

As to the proposed tag, how about building on an existing tag? This is essentially puffy_anus applied to a different hole. SO how about puffy_urethra? at least it shouldn't be too hard to figure out what the tag means (nothing infuriates me more than seeing a tag and not having any idea what it's referring to in the image).

just adding my support to this, pretty obvious answer to me and NNB's reasoning doesnt seem to sit on good ground sence urethra it self only applies to the hole and its edges.

Ruku said:
just adding my support to this, pretty obvious answer to me and NNB's reasoning doesnt seem to sit on good ground sence urethra it self only applies to the hole and its edges.

The urethra is the entire tube from cockslit to bladder, not just the hole. The urethral process is when that tube grows past the tip of the penis. I agree with wolftacos that puffy urethra could be confused with a thick urethral ridge on the underside of the penis. Puffy_anus doesn't protrude, it's a swelling of the anal ring either like a horse naturally has or from prolonged fisting or large shafts. If there's any actual protrusion, the proper tag would be anal_prolapse. An equine urethra sticking out isn't prolapsed (though that can happen in canines). Since the urethral tip doesn't have a ring of muscles that wouldn't even happen (you'd just have a gaping urethra) though I think I've seen one or two pics that show it as a result of cockfucking. If anything it would be a different new tag, but I doubt there's enough examples to be worth it, while I'm sure there's plenty of examples of protruding equine urethras if you search enough.

KevSnowcat said:
The urethra is the entire tube from cockslit to bladder, not just the hole. The urethral process is when that tube grows past the tip of the penis. I agree with wolftacos that puffy urethra could be confused with a thick urethral ridge on the underside of the penis. Puffy_anus doesn't protrude, it's a swelling of the anal ring either like a horse naturally has or from prolonged fisting or large shafts. If there's any actual protrusion, the proper tag would be anal_prolapse. An equine urethra sticking out isn't prolapsed (though that can happen in canines). Since the urethral tip doesn't have a ring of muscles that wouldn't even happen (you'd just have a gaping urethra) though I think I've seen one or two pics that show it as a result of cockfucking. If anything it would be a different new tag, but I doubt there's enough examples to be worth it, while I'm sure there's plenty of examples of protruding equine urethras if you search enough.

anal prolapse implies that the characters colon itself is partially pulled out of the body. puffy_anus only requires that the anal sphincter causes raised edges around the anus in the crease of the butt, thick walls are not a necessity. As for urethra we only tag for the hole in almost all cases as the tube you speak of is not visible under twys...

darou said:
Would you be so nice and link an example or two of the urethral process you speak of please.

• EDIT to be claer drawings or paintings only^^:

just finished creating the tag! here's a example. favorite pic so far with a urethral_process
https://e621.net/posts/2615020?q=urethral_process