Topic: Risky Humor

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Why is everyone in the e621 community so hung up on being insulted? Passive-aggression is just too common here too. People will down-vote others for the dumbest reasons. Some people only want to be funny, but others get pissed off by that way too often here. For those of you who choose to be insulted by cocky jokes; Why are you so grouchy? Take a pill dudes!

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Heteroxon said:
Why is everyone in the e621 community so hung up on being insulted? Passive-aggression is just too common here too. People will down-vote others for the dumbest reasons. Some people only want to be funny, but others get pissed off by that way too often here. For those of you who choose to be insulted by cocky jokes; Why are you so grouchy? Take a pill dudes!

Calm down, bro. Some people just like to troll.

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Why do people care about how many votes their comment has?

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Personally stuff like that doesn't really get to me.
I mean sure a few key things grinds my gears like anyone else
but, normally I just brush it off as a thing that just happens now and again in life and move on with my day.
I mean really, when you get down to it; It's just words on the screen from a person you'll probably never see in real life so why give that anonymous person the power to effect your day just through words.
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Sorry about going on about myself like that, Just felt like that needed to be said)

TheHuskyK9 said:
Why do people care about how many votes their comment has?

Because a good portion of people look to those votes for validation. It's not the votes themself's that matter, it's the principle behind them. People have an inherent want to be accepted among their peers to 'Really' feel like they belong in whatever group. Those up and down votes are sighs of that validation for some people so choosing to ether give it a 'Up' or 'Down' vote could really effect/mean something to a dood ya know?

Example: You might like a stream of video/post because you like the person behind them; Just how someone might dislike a ton just to get back at them.

(Not exactly the best at explaining stuff like this but I hope I got the my point across ◠‿◠;)

Edit: Oh yeah when it comes to actually making the jokes, I could never. I mean innuendo are easy ;) but when it comes to real @Munkelzahn stuff, Not enough courage to pull it off or to even imagine ~‿~;)

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Heteroxon said:
Why is everyone in the e621 community so hung up on being insulted? Passive-aggression is just too common here too. People will down-vote others for the dumbest reasons. Some people only want to be funny, but others get pissed off by that way too often here. For those of you who choose to be insulted by cocky jokes; Why are you so grouchy? Take a pill dudes!

i imagine your joke that you thought was the best thing ever created got downvoted, correct?

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If you're being sarcastic, suffix your post with [/sarcasm]. If it's just a plain joke, suffix with [/humor] or something related.
Other than that, stop worrying so much. There are a lot of people here who like to be assholes, but can't really do much other than downvoting others for simplistic reasons since the administration is so active.

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Humor is very subjective, that's why. The different people from different nations on this site could also be a factor. (Country related humor or something - like British, french, spanish humor, etc.)

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D4rk said:
Humor is very subjective, that's why. The different people from different nations on this site could also be a factor. (Country related humor or something - like British, french, spanish humor, etc.)

^^This. When I was in the 8th Grade, our teacher's aid was an Australian woman, and she would often wow the class with stories of the differences between Australians and Americans. Some words that we Americans would consider everyday and harmless would be considered an insult in Australia, for example the word "stuff," which here just refers to, say, a group of items bunched together in one place, (i.e. "the wrench you're looking for is mixed in with that stuff over there"), but in Australia it can be used as an insult, a replacement for the word "Fuck" here in America (i.e. "Get Stuffed," or "stuff it").

Tiny differences like this can cause all sorts of misunderstandings, especially online where you might have an American, an Australian, and a Brit all together in one conversation. One word can mean three different things to three different people, and where one of the three might think he's giving the other two a compliment or just making an innocent obvservation, the other two might interpret those comments as insulting or otherwise derogatory because of how the words are used in their respective residences.

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InannaEloah said:
Tiny differences like this can cause all sorts of misunderstandings, especially online where you might have an American, an Australian, and a Brit all together in one conversation. One word can mean three different things to three different people, and where one of the three might think he's giving the other two a compliment or just making an innocent obvservation, the other two might interpret those comments as insulting or otherwise derogatory because of how the words are used in their respective residences.

yeah but i would contest just one thing

'Stuff' isn't that major a swear in either Australian English or British English. it's very minor, like saying "shoot" instead of "shit". Aussies tend to use the word "cunt" more, and with less restrictions than any other dialect of English

Also, Australians and Brits can understand one another perfectly. It's actually pretty cool, since they whip out the slang they usually reserve for Americans, but then we just straight-up throw some back at them. it's cool

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D4rk said:
Humor is very subjective, that's why. The different people from different nations on this site could also be a factor. (Country related humor or something - like British, french, spanish humor, etc.)

i see you did not mention german humor

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My explanation: People non-rarely are prejudiced and offencive toward diversity; as a reflex of that, people who are part (or at least see theirselfs as part) of some minority, non-rarely develop a defensive posture.

p.s. Also, some people really need pills to live, so don't joke with that! (I'm kidding)

TheHuskyK9 said:
Why do people care about how many votes their comment has?

Social creatures have a inner fear of exclusion, and desapproval is a sign of exclusion.

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Whenever I make a joke or ad a humorous comment I never mean to insult anyone such as the artist or other users but maybe some people look for things, but then that's their problem really.
There maybe are other reasons I noticed a lot of the Servant of the Serpent comments were being down-voted for some reason a while ago.

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InannaEloah said:
One word can mean three different things to three different people, and where one of the three might think he's giving the other two a compliment or just making an innocent obvservation, the other two might interpret those comments as insulting or otherwise derogatory because of how the words are used in their respective residences.

"Fanny pack" is one example.

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InannaEloah said:
Some words that we Americans would consider everyday and harmless would be considered an insult in Australia, for example the word "stuff," which here just refers to, say, a group of items bunched together in one place, (i.e. "the wrench you're looking for is mixed in with that stuff over there"), but in Australia it can be used as an insult, a replacement for the word "Fuck" here in America (i.e. "Get Stuffed," or "stuff it").

That's called a euphemism. It's like saying fudge instead of fuck, shivers instead of shit, etc. The word you're using in place of a swear word doesn't itself become a swear word.

InannaEloah said:
Tiny differences like this can cause all sorts of misunderstandings, especially online where you might have an American, an Australian, and a Brit all together in one conversation. One word can mean three different things to three different people, and where one of the three might think he's giving the other two a compliment or just making an innocent obvservation, the other two might interpret those comments as insulting or otherwise derogatory because of how the words are used in their respective residences.

It depends on the difference. Some words like thong (US underwear, Aus footwear), fanny (US butt, Aus pussy) and root (US cheer, Aus sex) can confuse a little but we generally understand each other fine. There isn't much that can offend an aussie. If you want difficult, try talking to a kiwi.

Ryuzaki_Tritium said:
Aussies tend to use the word "cunt" more, and with less restrictions than any other dialect of English

We also use it as a compliment sometimes. It confuses the hell out of americans when we do.

Ryuzaki_Tritium said:
Also, Australians and Brits can understand one another perfectly. It's actually pretty cool, since they whip out the slang they usually reserve for Americans, but then we just straight-up throw some back at them. it's cool

Having access to both american and british TV helps a lot there, plus some aussie slang originated in Britian anyway (eg. cuppa).

There's also things like blackface not really being a thing over here so we don't instantly freak out when it happens and still sell golliwog dolls at craft shops. To you, a golliwog doll is a symbol of racism. To us, it's just a doll. The word nigger is almost never mentioned around here and people don't get all that offended when it is mentioned because like blackface and golliwogs, it's an american thing with no historical context here.

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I wonder how much of this supposed backlash gets directed at jokes that are actually funny. Comedy is hard, or so everyone always says of stand-up. I have very low expectations of the "witty" comments left on furry porn that, I assume, took a maximum of five minutes to compose. As an aside, it's bloody unnatural to respond to porn with a joke when the art itself is intended to stimulate arousal and not humor; in those cases, the attempts at humor usually come off as attention-seeking to me.

Not only are these jokes amateurish--and, really, to even qualify for the title "amateur", one should first have skin in the game, which I highly doubt here--but the jokes in question are doubly perilous because they incorporate offensive material. In many acts these days, manyfold more than even five years ago, comedians will raise the issue of political correctness infringing upon their creative freedom. It's a ubiquitous, constant threat to their livelihood that their profession requires them to be acutely aware of. Thus, even professional comedians struggle mightily when dealing with today's cultural sensitivities.

In summary, there's at least three reasons for these jokes to fail: (1) frankly, inept joke-writers, (2) difficult material to make tactful jokes from, and (3) current cultural sensitivities.

Just because someone puts some words together and calls it a joke doesn't automatically make it funny. Claiming otherwise, that people who get repulsed by your attempt at comedy shouldn't jump down your throat, is entitled, arrogant, and, most ironically, thin-skinned.

TL;DR I would sooner assume the jokes aren't funny rather than blame the audience for doing something other than laugh. A comedian's greatest fear is probably scathing rebuke, but it comes with the fucking territory. Don't like it? Then make better jokes or quit.

I don't really care about the rest. "Choose to be insulted" is another way of saying "having principles". Know that when you put yourself out there, you run the risk of getting shit on, and that doesn't have be through comedy, although that's certainly a shortcut.

"Risky humor":www.dailymotion.com/video/x1wjul2 - this blew up when it was current. I think even GIFs were linked in the blips here.

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Munkelzahn said:
i see you did not mention german humor

You know what grinds my gears as german?
- Nothing, our engineering is perfect ;)

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Ryuzaki_Tritium said:
Aussies tend to use the word "cunt" more, and with less restrictions than any other dialect of English

Do Aussies use it as a verb? Because Brits do

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FibS said:
Do Aussies use it as a verb? Because Brits do

Yes but we Brits don't use it as a verb as much as we just use it as a noun

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Ryuzaki_Tritium said:
i imagine your joke that you thought was the best thing ever created got downvoted, correct?

No. Actually, people enjoy my humor. It's just a lot of other people who say things that I find hilarious, and they end up getting down-voted for it. It's been happening a long time, and I've been just brushing it off for a while now. But I'm realizing it's giving an anti-social impact on the e621 Community.

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Heteroxon said:
No. Actually, people enjoy my humor. It's just a lot of other people who say things that I find hilarious, and they end up getting down-voted for it.

Examples?

FibS said:
Do Aussies use it as a verb? Because Brits do

Dunno. I know I haven't but I'm not sure about anyone else.

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