Topic: EU copyright reform vote on June 8th

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An e621 user sent me this link: https://juliareda.eu/2017/05/alternative-compromise/

Two world views are about to clash in a crucial copyright vote next week, on June 8. The European Parliament is currently undergoing a process to find a common position on the copyright reform plans proposed by the European Commission, which would threaten core functions of the internet and which academics have unanimously slammed.

With the Parliament tending towards a reasonable position, some are resorting to dirty tactics to defend – or even extend – these disastrous plans by any means necessary.

On June 8, the Internal Market and Consumer Protection (IMCO) Committee will decide its standpoint. This is a crucial step in the copyright reform process, because the IMCO committee is jointly responsible for the Parliament position on one of the most controversial parts of the reform: the introduction of mandatory censorship filters on online services such as social media.

Today it was revealed that MEP Pascal Arimont from the European People’s Party (EPP) is trying to sabotage the Parliamentary process, going behind the negotiators of the political groups and pushing a text that would make the Commission’s original bad proposal look tame in comparison. This is a tactic he recently already successfully applied to prevent the committee from adopting a progressive position on overcoming geoblocking. If he succeeds again, the result would once more do the opposite of what the Committee is tasked to do: Protecting European consumers.

He wants to double down on the obligation for content filtering, which he doesn’t want to just apply to services hosting “large amounts” of copyrighted content, as proposed by the Commission, but to any service facilitating the availability of such content, even if the service is not actually hosting anything at all. This could require content filters even for services that are linking to content on other websites, because hyperlinks, according to the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU), can be considered a copyright infringement under certain circumstances.

Could the EU copyright proposals affect e621? Possibly: https://rm.coe.int/168068511c

In many States, the takedown and blocking of material which infringes intellectual property and privacy or defamation rights is effected or authorised pursuant to court order only. Some countries have introduced alternative notice and takedown procedures designed to avoid the need for court action. In Finland, for example, there is evidence of a procedure for rights holders to obtain removal of allegedly unlawful material, subject to content providers being afforded a due process to challenge removal. Particularly in relation to defamatory material or content which otherwise infringes privacy rights enforcement will usually depend on the initiative being taken by the person or organisation harmed, and so many countries offer some form of 'notice and take-down' procedure. These may require the person or organisation affected to notify the relevant website operator directly before procedures for taking down the material can be initiated. Where the website operator refuses to remove material determined to be unlawful, the relevant domestic authority may provide a deadline to the host to remove the material, and/or may leave itself exposed to third party liability for the content. Internet access providers can even be ordered to block access to the URL, or even the entire website.

e621 and other sites that allow user uploads could end up blocked in EU countries if they don't comply with new copyright reforms.

Here are the "alternative compromises":

https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/arimont-alternative-compromise-1.pdf
https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/arimont-alternative-compromise-2.pdf

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The Internet has ways around that. The EU can't block every non-EU-based VPN (to be clear, I don't mean Tor). Not sure what the site rules say about that though.

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kamimatsu said:
The Internet has ways around that. The EU can't block every non-EU-based VPN (to be clear, I don't mean Tor). Not sure what the site rules say about that though.

1. Some visitors would give up on trying to access e621 from countries that block it, or would not learn about the site at all.
2. Loading big images on a free and slow VPN connection is a pain.
3. If a European user decided to get a paid VPN service just to access e621 and other blocked sites, that is a tax on their activities. Maybe €4 a month? And a paid VPN is still slower than no VPN unless your connection is being throttled.

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The UK also hates e621. :^)

The UK has now entered a draconian era of porn prohibition]This article was first published in November 2016. The Digital Economy Bill was granted Royal Assent on 27 April and has now become law.“Won’t somebody please think of the children?”Helen Lovejoy’s signature Simpsons line can now be used to accurately summarise the latest developments to the government’s Digital Economy Bill. The proposed legislation, which was first introduced to Parliament in July, has always aimed to enforce age verification on pornographic websites so that they cannot be accessed by children under the age of 18. On Sunday, however, new measures were announced; all websites that do not implement age verification will be banned in the UK.

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so...basically, this makes things worse for EU users?

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Considering e621 does honor takedown requests, I doubt we'd be effected.

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If it restricts me from the daily dose of Furry art - no problem, I know how to use a TOR browser.

Most goverments are way behind the abilities of the younger generations when it comes to such things. And I think it would be stupid for, let's say Hasbro or Disney, to prevent people from creating fan-stuff.

It's free marketing for their franchises, maybe paid comissions could get problematic.

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D4rk said:
If it restricts me from the daily dose of Furry art - no problem, I know how to use a TOR browser.

Most goverments are way behind the abilities of the younger generations when it comes to such things. And I think it would be stupid for, let's say Hasbro or Disney, to prevent people from creating fan-stuff.

It's free marketing for their franchises, maybe paid comissions could get problematic.

TOR is banned from e621 access, though.

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It's not outright banned (yet). Cloudflare hates it and heavily restricts a lot of things like the use of JavaScript.

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NotMeNotYou said:
It's not outright banned (yet). Cloudflare hates it and heavily restricts a lot of things like the use of JavaScript.

thought i'd read up on that a bit and...that's funny.

Cloudflare blog: The trouble with TOR

The TOR blog: The trouble with cloudflare

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Furrin_Gok said:
TOR is banned from e621 access, though.

But I guess there are still other ways to avoid such restrictions beside TOR.

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treos said:
thought i'd read up on that a bit and...that's funny.

Cloudflare blog: The trouble with TOR

The TOR blog: The trouble with cloudflare

There are people who demand and genuinely need anonymity. More anonymity than a VPN can provide (they are potentially vulnerable to the NSA's XKeyscore). Tor is known to be targeted by the NSA and universities but regularly beefs up its security and fixes bugs.

So when CloudFlare mucks up the web for Tor users, it's a problem not just on e621 but thousands of major websites. The reasons for it may be related to DDoS attacks, but the result is that legitimate Tor users become second class citizens on the web.

Those CAPTCHAs suck and have little place in 2017 since they will probably be broken by machine learning any day now. Even doing a simple Google search while using a VPN requires 2 minutes worth of CAPTCHAs to be solved. And any use of CAPTCHA requires JavaScript which is a problem for user security.

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Lance_Armstrong said:
There are people who demand and genuinely need anonymity. More anonymity than a VPN can provide (they are potentially vulnerable to the NSA's XKeyscore). Tor is known to be targeted by the NSA and universities but regularly beefs up its security and fixes bugs.

So when CloudFlare mucks up the web for Tor users, it's a problem not just on e621 but thousands of major websites. The reasons for it may be related to DDoS attacks, but the result is that legitimate Tor users become second class citizens on the web.

Those CAPTCHAs suck and have little place in 2017 since they will probably be broken by machine learning any day now. Even doing a simple Google search while using a VPN requires 2 minutes worth of CAPTCHAs to be solved. And any use of CAPTCHA requires JavaScript which is a problem for user security.

ugh, i don't even use TOR and i've hit CAPTCHAs where i had to fill them out 2-4 times in a row (usually those where you have to pick out all pics of a street sign or something.). so i know how annoying those can be.

and i also know how important the anonymity stuff is on the internet. i think everyone knows my opinion of windows 10 and microsoft's ties to the NSA. >.> they can make whatever claim they want to but i'm not touching the spyware OS. even if the internet's anonymity is a double edged blade, it's still worth maintaining it.

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