Topic: Tag Alias: nidoran_male -> nidoran♂

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Aliasing nidoran_male → nidoran♂
Link to alias

Reason:

While this hasn't been a used tag, from my knowledge a lot of people commonly don't understand the usage of the male and female symbols (a lot of tags involving nidoran are undertagged and just tagged as plain "nidoran" and not "nidoran♀" or "nidoran♂" probably because of this)

Ergo, I feel this alias could be helpful for future tagging and searching for specific gender nidoran content.

Related alias

Updated by Siral Exan

um... nidoran_male and nidoran_female would probably be the better option. how many people know how to type unicode?

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treos said:
um... nidoran_male and nidoran_female would probably be the better option. how many people know how to type unicode?

a reverse could work as well, forgot to mention that, my bad. was just aliasing to most used tag but either works tbh, just plain _male and _female could work better because it's easier to type

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treos said:
um... nidoran_male and nidoran_female would probably be the better option. how many people know how to type unicode?

Thanks to the alias, they won't need to. nidoran_(male) is already aliased for that very reason.

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treos said:
um... nidoran_male and nidoran_female would probably be the better option. how many people know how to type unicode?

the whole idea of this alias is that nobody needs to type the unicode. you can just type nidoran_male and it will be automatically replaced with nidoran♂

its the exact same reason why pokemon is aliased to pokémon and not other way around.

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Ledian said:
the whole idea of this alias is that nobody needs to type the unicode. you can just type nidoran_male and it will be automatically replaced with nidoran♂

its the exact same reason why pokemon is aliased to pokémon and not other way around.

And how will someone be able to search for the male or female nidoran tag and access its wiki, aliases do not show up in searches on the tag tab, typing nidoran_male would give no results.

Typesets that can be typed be anyone from anywhere should take priority over typesets that require special characters that cannot be typed in some countries, not the otherway around.

PS: what is done regarding intersexed nidoran by the way?

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Darou said:
And how will someone be able to search for the male or female nidoran tag and access its wiki, aliases do not show up in searches on the tag tab, typing nidoran_male would give no results.

once it is aliased, it shows as the correct tag on the sidebar. so if aliased they'd still be able to access the wiki. alias means the tag changes into that tag, so the wiki wont have to change

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facelessmess said:
once it is aliased, it shows as the correct tag on the sidebar. so if aliased they'd still be able to access the wiki. alias means the tag changes into that tag, so the wiki wont have to change

shows up in the post tab yes but cant be searched in the Tag or Wiki tab because there is no interface in place to redirect you to the tag with special characters.

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+1. The reverse aliases possibly would raise the chance of genre mistags, because (despite having the same meaning) symbols and words may lead to different subconscious interpretations.
It sounds a bit redundant but I see some usefulness in it.

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Darou said:
And how will someone be able to search for the male or female nidoran tag and access its wiki

Like this?

Darou said:
PS: what is done regarding intersexed nidoran by the way?

If it was a nidoran♂ with a vagina, it would be pussy + nidoran♂ + female + crossgender
If it was some weird intersex hybrid, it would be nidoran♂ + nidoran♀ + fusion(?) hybrid(?) + intersex+penis+pussy if it's genitals are visible or ambiguous_gender if they aren't

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CrocoGator said:
Like this?

If it was a nidoran♂ with a vagina, it would be pussy + nidoran♂ + female + crossgender
If it was some weird intersex hybrid, it would be nidoran♂ + nidoran♀ + fusion(?) hybrid(?) + intersex

A wildcard should not be necessary as the only way to access thru, not all users are also aware of wildcards.

it doesnt change that most people are unable to write the tag in searches which is the problem. Aliases are to make searches easyer(accessible from anywhere on the site that has search functions for tags), not harder for the casual user by being impossible to write in.

A intersexed nidoran is a Hybrid???

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Darou said:
A intersexed nidoran is a Hybrid???

Not necessarily. Sorry, I worded it poorly, especially before my edit. What I meant to say is nidoran♂ and nidoran♀ should be treated as unrelated species names. The difference between them is their color, ear shape, etc. Nidoran♂/Nidoran♀ has nothing to do with genitalia or gender on this site. IF it had characteristics of both Nidoran♂ and Nidoran♀ (in terms of color, etc.), then yes it would be a hybrid/fusion.

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CrocoGator said:
Not necessarily. Sorry, I worded it poorly, especially before my edit. What I meant to say is nidoran♂ and nidoran♀ should be treated as unrelated species names. The difference between them is their color, ear shape, etc. Nidoran♂/Nidoran♀ has nothing to do with genitalia or gender on this site.

I should point out that the only reason male and female nidoran are treated as separate species in the games is because Nintendo created the gender distinction back in Pokémon Red/Blue where the gender stat didn't exist and they didn't remove this distinction in later games. What I want to know is why do we still use the visual distinction to treat them as separate species when we don't do it for any other species no matter how different they are.

CrocoGator said:
IF it had characteristics of both Nidoran♂ and Nidoran♀ (in terms of color, etc.), then yes it would be a hybrid/fusion.

Hybrid is a combination of two or more species. Fusion is a combination of two or more characters. Unless both the Nidoran♂ and Nidoran♀ involved are named characters, it's just a hybrid.

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BlueDingo said:
Hybrid is a combination of two or more species. Fusion is a combination of two or more characters. Unless both the Nidoran♂ and Nidoran♀ involved are named characters, it's just a hybrid.

Pokémon count as both characters and species, as certain tags would otherwise not affect species (alternate_color, to name one). A fusion is just as likely as a hybrid under this concept, which is incredibly irritating.

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Siral_Exan said:
Pokémon count as both characters and species, as certain tags would otherwise not affect species (alternate_color, to name one). A fusion is just as likely as a hybrid under this concept, which is incredibly irritating.

If you think it's incredibly irritating then why do you support it?

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BlueDingo said:
If you think it's incredibly irritating then why do you support it?

Well, if there wasn't a metaphoric word of God, I wouldn't support it; nor do I actively support it. I don't tag fusion on hybrids, but I do listen to what the higher-ups say.

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