Topic: Tags to differentiate between anal/urethral vore and just insertions?

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To me vore connotes absorption/digestion. Right now "tag what you see" means anything more than a cock or fist inside the rectum/urethra is vore. I've seen plenty of stories and pics where there's no intent to absorb, it's just taking advantage of size difference or stretchiness to put more than just a cock or paw inside someone.

I know there's hard/soft vore tags but what is non-gore melting/absorption considered? I've seen people call it both.

Basically, I would like to be able to search for images with full (or half, or whatever... I guess anything more than fisting) insertions - whether with internal view or not - that have zero implications that the one inside is going to get 'eaten'.

As far as a separate set of tags for muzzle/throat insertions, personally I think for those it much more strongly implies vore, but maybe others don't think so.

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KevSnowcat said:
To me vore connotes absorption/digestion. Right now "tag what you see" means anything more than a cock or fist inside the rectum/urethra is vore. I've seen plenty of stories and pics where there's no intent to absorb, it's just taking advantage of size difference or stretchiness to put more than just a cock or paw inside someone.

I know there's hard/soft vore tags but what is non-gore melting/absorption considered? I've seen people call it both.

Basically, I would like to be able to search for images with full (or half, or whatever... I guess anything more than fisting) insertions - whether with internal view or not - that have zero implications that the one inside is going to get 'eaten'.

As far as a separate set of tags for muzzle/throat insertions, personally I think for those it much more strongly implies vore, but maybe others don't think so.

there's snout fuck and fisting for one. so you can have deep urethral fisting or possibly deep_penetration fisting.

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@facelessmess: Didn't KevSnowcat explicitly exclude fisting? : "search for images with full (or half, or whatever... I guess anything more than fisting) insertions"

KevSnowcat: I'm really having difficulty coming up with ways that this can be clearly distinguished from soft vore under TWYS. IOW: it seems to me that, except in the presence of fairly specific dialog, they are visually identical.

If you agree with this conclusion, then I would suggest that it's extremely likely that no such tag(s) exist.

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Related: Vore & Venus Fly Traps

Vore could definitely use some new tags to go along with it to make it easier to blacklist what you don't want, "whitelist" what you don't mind, and search what you do want. In the case of this idea, there already is soft vore for non-digestion, but people aren't reliably tagging hard vore for digestion through other means besides the mouth. An image where it appears to have stopped half way would need some new form of tag. (Using a penis as a sleeping bag, for example)

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Yeah. I think maybe there should be tags for body insertion (anal_insertion and urethral_insertion include sticking anything in there, penis, toys, vegetables, cars, and Minions, so those tags wouldn't work...). Really, by the rules of "tag what you see", if you don't see any sign of digestion/absorption it really shouldn't even be considered vore. So many types of play have nothing to do with vore, macro/micro, rubber/goo furs, wearing a sentient latex "suit" if there's no signs of it being non-consensual/not-removable. If just being inside someone's butt is automatically considered vore, anal sex would be voring a penis. :D

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I was thinking hyper_anal(or urethral)_insertion but that wouldn't work if it was a macro and micro. anal/urethral_nonvore doesn't seem clear enough and sounds silly.

Hmm.

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Here's an example: https://e621.net/post/show/1320384/

There's no indication that the kobold is going to get 'digested'. It's just an unwilling forced insertion taking advantage of size difference.

I didn't check before, but I looked up the tags. There's 12,710 posts with vore. There's only 1,125 tagged soft_vore and 253 tagged hard vore. That's only a little over 10% where you would actually be able to filter it with specific tags (though -gore would probably help, it won't filter out non-bloody melting and I don't even think there's a consensus on whether being melted into cum or whatever is soft or hard).

I just wish there was an easier way to search (I like the comic there, and -vore would have removed it from search results) and "tag what you see" if there's no digestion, it's shouldn't be vore. Still can't think of alternative tags though. :P

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Furrin_Gok said:
Related: Vore & Venus Fly Traps

Vore could definitely use some new tags to go along with it to make it easier to blacklist what you don't want, "whitelist" what you don't mind, and search what you do want. In the case of this idea, there already is soft vore for non-digestion, but people aren't reliably tagging hard vore for digestion through other means besides the mouth. An image where it appears to have stopped half way would need some new form of tag. (Using a penis as a sleeping bag, for example)

Digestion doesn't mean hard vore unless this site is using a really weird definition. Everywhere else, soft vore = swallowing whole, hard vore = chewing/biting/etc.

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paulapig said:
Digestion doesn't mean hard vore unless this site is using a really weird definition. Everywhere else, soft vore = swallowing whole, hard vore = chewing/biting/etc.

Is there actually a definition we're /supposed/ to be using for being absorbed without gore? Usually seen the most in cock vore, then anal, rarely for oral (sometimes seen if it's a goo/latex fur)?

All I see is that if there's graphic chewing it's hard vore. If anything happens after that there's no agreement on what to call it. If there's no digestion/absorption at all, I feel like it shouldn't be tagged vore at all if it's not oral vore.

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KevSnowcat said:
Is there actually a definition we're /supposed/ to be using for being absorbed without gore? Usually seen the most in cock vore, then anal, rarely for oral (sometimes seen if it's a goo/latex fur)?

All I see is that if there's graphic chewing it's hard vore. If anything happens after that there's no agreement on what to call it. If there's no digestion/absorption at all, I feel like it shouldn't be tagged vore at all if it's not oral vore.

Lethal digestion is also hard_vore. If it's being removed, somebody's vandalizing tags.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Lethal digestion is also hard_vore. If it's being removed, somebody's vandalizing tags.

I pointed out earlier in the thread that only slightly over 10% of art tagged vore has additional soft/hard tags. I guess in that instance it's more of a tagging failure being unable to filter well using -hard/soft. But I still think there should be some kind of TWYS distinction between vore (any indication at all that the subject will be digested, i.e. melting into cum or the penis having a mouth/tentacles to capture prey) or not (someone lubed up a micro fur to get a urethral massage).

Even maw shots are usually tagged vore even if the smaller fur is just humping the tongue, though in that case it's probably another instance of tag confusion since it would probably still count as implied vore.

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