Topic: Tag Implication: kong -> donkey_kong_(series)

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Implicating kong → donkey_kong_(series)
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Reason:

A fictional species of primate seen in the donkey kong series. Like how Kremlings imply the series, kongs should as well.

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1 Yes, they are cryptids, but they're so heavily primate in form that I don't see why they shouldn't have the base primate species implication, similar to how species like gryphon implies avian.

2 Similar to pegasuswings implication

3 Flying monkeys are a species of winged monkeys originating from the wizard of oz series.

4 Like how starbound's fictional apex species implies primate, I don't see why kong shouldn't, as it's a legitimate, canonical fictional primate species in the series and not a purely fake creature just Inspired by real life animals (a la pokemon, digimon, etc). This is probably the same logic as to why apex implies primate as well.

5 They transform in the full moon, are brawny and heavily muscled, have glowing eyes... etc. They fit the were tag standards seen on its wikia page to a T.

6 Discussed here.

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Kong can also refer to King Kong and specifically the movie Kong though.

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bluedoberdor said:
Kong can also refer to King Kong and specifically the movie Kong though.

King Kong exists as a character tag.

Also the media involving kong are not simply titled "kong", they have full names involving subtitling: "Kong: The Animated Series", "Kong: Skull Island", etc. If they ever get tagged they would be their full title, not just Kong alone. None of the King Kong media is just called "kong" so far, from what I can tell, and neither have there been any notable furry related media titled simply Kong besides the titular species seen in the DK franchise.

So far from what I can find media just named "Kong" on its own are really irrelevant, easily worked around, and/or are called by another name:

  • ''Kōng'', a concept in Chinese Zen Buddhism (known better by another name, "śūnyatā", or something like kōng_(buddhism) could suffice)
  • The Kong company, a dog toy producer (fixed by kong_(company))
  • KONG, a television station (fixed by kong_(television)/kong_(tv))
  • Kong, a roller coaster in six flags (fixed by kong_(six_flags))
  • Kong, a Dutch progressive metal band (fixed by kong_(band))
  • "Kong", a song by Tenacious D (Probably irrelevant as song titles don't seem to be enforced in tagging here, but if needed: Kong (song))

Even if one exists, this can be rectified by making such tags like "kong_(movie)".

Not to mention the species name for what king kong is is not just kong, it's known as "Megaprimatus kong", ergo "megaprimatus_kong" would be its tag.

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facelessmess said:
King Kong exists as a character tag.

Also the media involving kong are not simply titled "kong", they have full names involving subtitling: "Kong: The Animated Series", "Kong: Skull Island", etc. If they ever get tagged they would be their full title, not just Kong alone.

Except that they each have different subnames. The video game based on it didn't even have a subtitle, it was just "Kong".

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Furrin_Gok said:
Except that they each have different subnames. The video game based on it didn't even have a subtitle, it was just "Kong".

Possible solution to this problem if it ever occurs: make the tag for said game "kong_(game)"

Another option is to perhaps change the DK species "Kong" tag to "kong_(donkey_kong)" without making it an alias (ergo leaving kong empty, perhaps even to become a disembag redirect if need be) , but that's probably the more difficult/tedious route compared to the standard subtitling seen on this site that seems to work quite well as is, considering as of now content about or containing this kong game has never been posted and that pretty much most to all content involving "kong" are pretty much only the DK series species

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In the Donkey Kong series, "kong" is treated as another word for primate.

-1 for implication. Suggest disambiguation instead.

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BlueDingo said:
In the Donkey Kong series, "kong" is treated as another word for primate.

-1 for implication. Suggest disambiguation instead.

I know fan wikis aren't 100% reliable, but according to the DK wiki the series seems to treat them as a species (with things such as various subspecies even existing, and also with them all considering themselves seemingly unified/family/etc despite not all being related, which really feels like a species unity thing to me)

Of course perhaps this is inaccurate and these claims/sources are mistaken. If so: my apologies. Thoughts on the other implications?

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facelessmess said:
I know fan wikis aren't 100% reliable, but according to the DK wiki the series seems to treat them as a species, unless that claim is inaccurate

Check out the DK Rap. "Kong" is basically just the family name. Regardless of what species they actually are, they're considered Kongs because they're part of the family/clan.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Check out the DK Rap. "Kong" is basically just the family name. Regardless of what species they actually are, they're considered Kongs because they're part of the family/clan.

What about Manky Kong?

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Furrin_Gok said:
Check out the DK Rap. "Kong" is basically just the family name. Regardless of what species they actually are, they're considered Kongs because they're part of the family/clan.

Hm, perhaps so. To me it appeared to be more of a species unity/moniker thing (especially since even enemy kongs, like manky kong, do exist and want to hurt the other kongs, and therefore aren't a part of this clan or family)

Could be wrong on this maybe! Thoughts on the other implications?

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BlueDingo said:
What about Manky Kong?

Beat me to it by a second

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Even if it is right to imply kong -> donkey_kong_(serries), I feel kong could be interperted to all of the other things mentioned too easily to to warrant an implication. I support a diambiguation tag.

I don't know much about the other tags but I don't see any glaring issues.

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Idem said:
Even if it is right to imply kong -> donkey_kong_(serries), I feel kong could be interperted to all of the other things mentioned too easily to to warrant an implication. I support a diambiguation tag.

Fair enough.

If there is an agreement on their species status tho, I would suggest coining the tag kong_(donkey_kong) so it's extremely obvious and easily interpreted as to what it is.

If not tho, then oh well.

Idem said:
I don't know much about the other tags but I don't see any glaring issues.

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