Topic: Tag Alias: bovine_humanoid -> cow_humanoid

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Aliasing bovine_humanoid → cow_humanoid
Link to alias

Reason:

Since cow humanoid just implies bovine + animal humanoid, it's not specifically just for cow based humanoids and can apply to bovine humanoids in general. Bovine humanoid seems redundant with this in mind, and several other humanoid tags I've suggested aliases for also seem redundant with this in mind.

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1 Deliberately did not suggest an implication to procyonid; this is because tanuki animal humanoids are currently tagged as raccoon humanoids because of visual similarity and convenience (as stated in wiki page)

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
Aliasing bovine_humanoid → cow_humanoid
Link to alias

Reason:

Since cow humanoid just implies bovine + animal humanoid, it's not specifically just for cow based humanoids and can apply to bovine humanoids in general. Bovine humanoid seems redundant with this in mind, and several other humanoid tags I've suggested aliases for also seem redundant with this in mind.

For one, YES, but also: no.

Bovines are a rather large group of animals. You've got cows, sure, but you also have bison, buffalo (african and water), yaks, and a few types of antelopes. and each of those have a number of subspecies.

A bison humanoid is not a cow humanoid. but they are a bovine humanoid.

That said, I'mma go through the rest of your list:

Nope,. because canines are also foxes, wolves, and some other critters. and when you're dealing with ears and a tail, it's hard to tell what a species is.

post #1477368 post #1460048 post #1434629

For most of those, you're looking at ear shape to suggest species.. maybe tail shape-- and for a lot of them, your'e comparing cat-ears versus canine-ears.

If I search for dog_humanoid, I want:

post #1422400 post #1469295 not dog-wolf-fox-coyote-jackal-etc.

if anything, dog_humanoid, fox_humanoid, wolf_humanoid etc etc should all imply canine_humanoid.

cervine range from everything from the 25 lb water deer to a moose.

How does one differenciate a calico cat from a tiger then?

Jackal humanoids are pretty specifically a unique thing.

more nos for the reasons mentioned above.

Yeah, this should be a thing.

On the topic of implications. bout half of the X_humanoid posts imply animal_humanoid, and the other half imply animal_humanoid AND X-the-animal. Not sure which it's suposed to be.

I personally argue that X_humanoid should imply animal_humanoid, and X-the-animal,

So like:

fox_humanoid implies canine_humanoid
Canine_humanoid implies animal_humanoid
Canine_humanoid implies canine
fox_humanoid implies fox

(and i think that shoudl get all of the mammal etc tags on there.)

(edited because I left some random floating text in there--sorry!)

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Hm I suppose so, just from what I've seen: if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc... a lot of people like to alias very similar tags together, so I thought aliasing canine humanoids to dog humanoids would be best, as most of the canine humanoid tag tends to be wolf/fox humanoids just mistagged, while the rest fit dog humanoid qualities. The ones you shared from canine humanoid for example seem to be mostly mistagged wolf humanoids.

Putting them in species specific implications could work, I was just afraid we might be splitting hairs and getting TOO specific for the site's own good, which some look down upon. For example, some might prefer cat_humanoid white_tiger rather than an additional tag(s) for the same result with, for example: tiger_humanoid feline_humanoid white_tiger, etc etc. This is mainly to follow in the steps they seem to have put in place with raccoon humanoids encompassing tanuki humanoids, but probably was made for convenience AND to lessen unnecessary extra tags.

SnowWolf said:
feline humanoid → cat humanoid
How does one differenciate a calico cat from a tiger then?

cat_humanoid calico and cat_humanoid tiger

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
Hm I suppose so, just from what I've seen: if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc... a lot of people like to alias very similar tags together, so I thought aliasing canine humanoids to dog humanoids would be best, as most of the canine humanoid tag tends to be wolf/fox humanoids just mistagged, while the rest fit dog humanoid qualities. The ones you shared from canine humanoid for example seem to be mostly mistagged wolf humanoids.

yeah, but not all ducks are alike. especially in the dog/wolf area. Some of them are pretty generic "canine" while others are very clearly a fox for example. but that doesn't mean they should all be lumped into one basket. I would rather see the 'generic wolf-like-humanoids' be tagged as canine_humanoid over dog_humanoid... especially since dog_humanoids are either going to be overtly projecting a species (see also: the pommeranian girl pictured above) or are going to have floppy ears to differentiate them from 'generic canines'

(lulz see also: post #1467357)

Of course, being honest, this area is a mess.

This dog humanoid: post #1465045 is clearly a fox (*fixes tag*) ... thus dog_humanoid post #1466592 looks more like a jackal.. there are a lot in ehre that I would tag as 'wolf' or even 'cat' in a few cases.. I mean, tag what I see and all, and post #1342689 looks like a kitty.

there's a lot of mistagging--it's a place where 'tag what you see' can merge with 'tag what you know' and make a mess.

But I'd rather see canine_humanoid be the 'assorted dumping ground' for vaguely canine humanoids. after all, a dog is a very specific species of canine.

Putting them in species specific implications could work, I was just afraid we might be splitting hairs and getting TOO specific for the site's own good, which some look down upon. For example, some might prefer cat_humanoid lynx rather than the additional tag for the same result with feline_humanoid lynx_humanoid lynx, etc etc. This is mainly to follow in the steps they seem to have put in place with raccoon humanoids encompassing tanuki humanoids.

Eh?

Okay, presuming lynx_humanoid has enough of a population to be 'worth' tagging...

Lynx_humanoid should imply feline_humanoid and lynx
Feline humanoid should imply feline.

So, tagging "lynx_humanoid" should result in a post tagged with lynx_humanoid feline_humanoid animal_humanoid lynx feline mammal

Thus, you could search for feline_humanoid lynx or lynx_humanoid or animal_humanoid lynx and all get the same sort of results.

A CAT refers to a domestic cat. felis cattus. Tiny house tigers. See also: cat: The cat is a small, domesticated feline. Often kept as pets as far back 9,500 years, they are now present across the world as the most popular pet in the world. This tag does not include large felines, such as lions or tigers.

So.. tiger_humanoids are NOT cat_humanoids.

cat_humanoid calico and cat_humanoid tiger

So... above statement about how 'cat' is used for domestic cats, not other cats.

but also...

Not every animal_humanoid picture is tagged with the animal species. (or fur color, though calico_cat is a species apparently)

fox_humanoid -fox has more than 300 results.
cat_humanoid -cat has... good lord. ... over 9400... and there are only 11,725 cat_humanoid posts ...

I"m not saying we should have eastern_papauan_new_guinia_fisher_cat_humanoids, but we shouldn't try to lump all members of a species into one species. if I can't tag this canine as a wolf, dog or fox, then it should be a canine_humanoid, not a dog_humanoid. dog is a specific species. Cat is a specific species. canine and feline and bovine etc are generics. All dogs are canines but not all canines are dogs, etc.

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Ah yeah, I suppose. Really the animal humanoid tags are kind of a mess

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SnowWolf said:
cervine range from everything from the 25 lb water deer to a moose.

Actually, cervines have an even wider range than that. Meet the adorable Mouse Deer which may weigh as little as a pound and a half.

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Clawdragons said:
Actually, cervines have an even wider range than that. Meet the adorable Mouse Deer which may weigh as little as a pound and a half.

Oh my god, I think I died. that is adorable.

I have never been so happy to be wrong. Lookit his little chest stripes! and his lil snuffler! and the eensy wee hooves!

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That is a very cute lil deer!

Anyways, regardless, I do agree that I feel we should have some sort of cleanup in regards to humanoids; perhaps, like you said, we should have species tags connecting them like canine humanoids and feline humanoids.

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