post #1546674
The original that sparked controversy, tags locked by Ratte

post #1639855
Recent post, tags locked by NotMeNotYou

Both posts have the same character, with the same information for tags. Feminine character, their genitals are hidden, and they have no breasts. The only difference is that in one, anal penetration is clear, which should have no bearing on gender tagging.

So why is this character tagged so differently, when they are presented nearly identical in both posts? My problem with the Reggie controversy was less so the female tag-lock in the former, and more so how inconsistent tagging can be, even when tags are done by admins. This is a prime example of that.

Can we please have some consistency with the tags?

> consistency
> cites two different admins, human in every way
> further cites two different images, only relevant features are a character and the fact that sex is happening.

I'm sorry, but if you want "consistency", maybe you should make an argument that is consistent itself. Two different images means two different sets of tags, and admins can't telepathically communicate with each other, nor are they available 24/7 to agree or disagree. Expecting the same results "consistently" is literally impossible, and you say otherwise.

Siral_Exan said:
> consistency
> cites two different admins, human in every way
> further cites two different images, only relevant features are a character and the fact that sex is happening.

I'm sorry, but if you want "consistency", maybe you should make an argument that is consistent itself. Two different images means two different sets of tags, and admins can't telepathically communicate with each other, nor are they available 24/7 to agree or disagree. Expecting the same results "consistently" is literally impossible, and you say otherwise.

NMNY backed Ratte's tag lock on post #1546674, so why tag lock a similar post differently?

Omnicidal said:
NMNY backed Ratte's tag lock on post #1546674, so why tag lock a similar post differently?

They are not similar, you are only saying they are. As I said, two different posts means two different set of tags. That's how TWYS works, each image is irrelevant to the prior or latter.

Siral_Exan said:
They are not similar, you are only saying they are. As I said, two different posts means two different set of tags. That's how TWYS works, each image is irrelevant to the prior or latter.

When the content is similar, you expect similar tags. If there is a post of a nude, anthro wolf with breasts and a vagina, you expect it to be tagged female. When you see a completely separate post that has, yet again, a nude, anthro wolf with breasts and a vagina, you expect that to be tagged female as well.

The content is similar in both posts. As I explained, both have a feminine character, whose genitals are hidden, and they have no breasts.

A whole lot more of Reggie's figure is visible in the former example tbh. I think it's justifiable enough.

At this point all I really want with gender tagging is for cuntboy to not be a default tag for flat-chested female-figured characters without a visible penis.

Omnicidal said:
When the content is similar, you expect similar tags. If there is a post of a nude, anthro wolf with breasts and a vagina, you expect it to be tagged female. When you see a completely separate post that has, yet again, a nude, anthro wolf with breasts and a vagina, you expect that to be tagged female as well.

The content is similar in both posts. As I explained, both have a feminine character, whose genitals are hidden, and they have no breasts.

You are disagreeing with how the site tags images on a page to page level. On this site, two separate images with contents different are considered not the same. This is how the site handles the posts, as otherwise certain tags becomes false positives or false negatives because the sequence of a set of images as a total would be considered. Such as Vore tagged when no Vore is present; each image has to be considered separately for TWYS to work.

I reiterate once more, this is TWYS. You can disagree with it, but that is how those images are being ruled. This site is an art archival site, and the tag system is uniform to other archives. This does not exempt any character or any post, and it is encouraged to use the description field for any tags that "misrepresent" a character. Because we have to use the regular tags accurately for all users, despite a group of people disagreeing with them.

The whole artstyle in post #1639855 is way different, it barely even looks like the same artist.

Siral_Exan said:
You are disagreeing with how the site tags images on a page to page level. On this site, two separate images with contents different are considered not the same. This is how the site handles the posts, as otherwise certain tags becomes false positives or false negatives because the sequence of a set of images as a total would be considered. Such as Vore tagged when no Vore is present; each image has to be considered separately for TWYS to work.

I reiterate once more, this is TWYS. You can disagree with it, but that is how those images are being ruled. This site is an art archival site, and the tag system is uniform to other archives. This does not exempt any character or any post, and it is encouraged to use the description field for any tags that "misrepresent" a character. Because we have to use the regular tags accurately for all users, despite a group of people disagreeing with them.

You're ignoring my words. I'm not disagreeing with TWYS. I see a lamp in one post, lamp tag added; I see another lamp in another post, lamp tag added.

The system seems simple, but it clearly isn't given how we can't agree on tags.

This is a case of 2 posts with similar content, getting very different treatment. Getting tagged by a user is one thing, but being tag locked by an Admin is another.

My point with this isn't what should be tagged with what. My point is 'why the difference?'.

I would like both Ratte and NMNY to state their reasonings for what the difference is. I don't care what the posts are tagged with in the end, honestly.

Since the whole picture is being shown, I'm going to summarize:

The posts are not the same. You can say they are similar, but similarities are ignored on a post-to-post basis.

The admins are humans. They have even disagreed at times, but since no decision they make is flawless, they try to collaborate instead. Hence your observation.

I will not speak on their behest since they were the ones who made the decision, but they locked the tags because people were arguing and made a "tag war", that forced them to intervene.