Aliasing nubless → light_fury_(character)
Link to alias

Reason:

While "Nubless" is a popular fan-given nickname for the How to Train Your Dragon character, it is not canonical. Not only that, but the production staff deliberately avoided giving her a personal name to emphasize her being a wild dragon.

Related suggestions:

• light_fury_(character) I-> how_to_train_your_dragon – Obviously.
• light_fury I-> dragon – Also obviously. Note that the related night_fury tag is also implicated to dragon.
• light_fury I-> how_to_train_your_dragon – Might as well make sure that the species is also implicated to the copyright it's part of.

On a side note: I am really fucking salty that wikipedia has the full plot summary of a movie that doesn't come out in the US for another week. If you go to look up anything about HTTYD3, please be aware that wikipedia can and will spoil the movie for you. :c

Okay, so.

We probably don't know if "nubless" is a mutated (leucistic) night fury or a subspecies, or even, for example, an example of sexual diamorphism.

That said, it is likely that someone will draw a white night fury character who is not the one in the movie. (proof: there are 1316 night_fury posts, but only 1067 toothless posts. light_fury has 109 posts and nubless has 100.)

So.. there are a few ways to do this. For the following examples, let's pretend I have a light fury character named Mistfang. Why? I dunno, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

1) light_fury_(character) is a night_fury, toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a night_fury
2) light_fury_(character) is a white_night_fury, toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a white_night_fury
3) light_fury_(character) is a light_fury, toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a light_fury
4) light_fury is a white_night_fury, toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a white_night_fury
5) light_fury is a night_fury, toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a night_fury
6) light_fury is a white_fury, toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a white_fury

Other potential alternatives might be..

the_light_fury, or or light_fury_(httyd) for the character...

Option 3 is a very bad idea because you'll end up with people who tag just the species and not the character on accident.

Personally, I prefer char:light_fury and either species:white_night_fury or species:white_fury. white_night_fury is probably the best, as white_fury seems to only be used on wikipedia and isn't official.

Oh, I've already got spoiled on TV Tropes a while ago. :P And personally, I don't really care to go see the film, with or without spoilers.

It's established that the unnamed Light Fury is... a Light Fury, as the species is named by Astrid and Hiccup. There is no "White Night Fury" or "White Fury", as Wikipedia only used "white Fury" (as written in the plot summary) to describe the dragon by its color, and director Dean DeBlois stated that the Light Fury is not a Night Fury.

The article on Fandom/Wikia's HTTYD Wiki uses the term Unnamed Light Fury for the Light Fury of focus in the film, so that doesn't help matters regarding the Light Fury character.

If the issue of the term "Light Fury" being shared between a species name and an unnamed character is that much of a problem, then I suppose the species tag will have to be moved to light_fury_(species) and light_fury would have to be aliased to light_fury_(disambiguation).

BooruHitomi said:
Oh, I've already got spoiled on TV Tropes a while ago. :P And personally, I don't really care to go see the film, with or without spoilers.

....I was mostly warning for other people who, like me, might be caught off guard by this and find themselves spoiled. Like me. :P

It's established that the unnamed Light Fury is... a Light Fury, as the species is named by Astrid and Hiccup. There is no "White Night Fury" or "White Fury", as Wikipedia only used "white Fury" (as written in the plot summary) to describe the dragon by its color,

Yes, I did look this up. That is how the wikipedia article spoiled me, thank you.

and director Dean DeBlois stated that the Light Fury is not a Night Fury]

We generally go off of tag what you see. That gets fuzzy when a franchise is involved. However, I'm pretty sure that "The director said it on reddit once" is stretching "tag what you see" beyond reason. Most people will not have that information.

The article on Fandom/Wikia's HTTYD Wiki uses the term Unnamed Light Fury for the Light Fury of focus in the film, so that doesn't help matters regarding the Light Fury character.

Yes, I know. I, also, used the HTTYD wikia as a reference while doing said research.

If the issue of the term "Light Fury" being shared between a species name and an unnamed character is that much of a problem, then I suppose the species tag will have to be moved to light_fury_(species) and light_fury would have to be aliased to light_fury_(disambiguation).

So, here is the situation. I am not a huge HTTYD fan. I think the movies are cute, but it is not My Special Fandom. I upload art of "nubless" because white dragon pretty. From watching the movie, I know they call her light fury. So I tag light_fury. light_fury_(character) is never tagged.

This is not a good situation. this is the sort of situation we prefer to avoid. The best tags are clear and obvious.

light_fury_(species) is a fair idea. The disambiguous is not particularly needed however, in my opinion.

but that's just my opinion.

so:

7) light_fury is a light_fury_(species), toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a light_fury_(species)

SnowWolf said:
This is not a good situation. this is the sort of situation we prefer to avoid. The best tags are clear and obvious.

I know, but we just can't simply go by fan-given nicknames for everything that isn't given a personal name, especially for recent stuff like this. I feel like it's sort of disrespectful to the character's creators to use an unofficial term or identity to refer to what they've made, since they have their reasons as to why they didn't want to go with making a personal name for her. Still, their decisions on how to refer to the character has indeed not made things easy... :/

light_fury_(species) is a fair idea. The disambiguous is not particularly needed however, in my opinion.

but that's just my opinion.

I also don't necessarily want to go with a disambiguation either, to be honest, but it would let people know to how to properly tag the character and the species should such disambiguations be used throughout.

so:

7) light_fury is a light_fury_(species), toothless is a night_fury and mistfang_(snowwolf) is a light_fury_(species)

That would be correct. The question is that should we:

• move everything that's tagged light_fury to light_fury_(species),
• change the tag type for light_fury from species to character,
• move the wiki page content of light_fury to light_fury_(species), with some necessary small changes,
• change the text of the light_fury page to something like this:

The Light Fury is a female, white scaled, unnamed dragon character of the dragon species of the same name introduced in the DreamWorks Animation film How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. According to film trilogy director Dean DeBlois, she was deliberately not given a personal name so as to keep an emphasis on her being a wild dragon. Nevertheless, she is often called "Nubless" (among other nicknames) by HtTYD fans due to her similarities to the Night Fury Toothless, who becomes her mate in the film.

This tag refers to the unnamed Light Fury character. For the Light Fury species, use light_fury_(species).

• do all the following...

• then finally change the text of nubless wiki page to something like:

"Nubless" is a fan-given nickname used to refer to the unnamed Light Fury character from How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. For posts that feature this character, see light_fury.

I certainly don't want to do all that without some consensus from other users here; this character is going to be pretty popular if she hasn't already, so we can't rush things with this one.

BooruHitomi said:
I know, but we just can't simply go by fan-given nicknames for everything that isn't given a personal name, especially for recent stuff like this. I feel like it's sort of disrespectful to the character's creators to use an unofficial term or identity to refer to what they've made, since they have their reasons as to why they didn't want to go with making a personal name for her. Still, their decisions on how to refer to the character has indeed not made things easy... :/

It's not an intent to be disrespectful, (though I can definetly understand why it would feel that way!) it's that we have a system that works in a certain way. the nubless -> newtag alias will help *today* but from here forward, there will be plenty of people who will have never heard of 'nubless'. SO whatever we pick has to be intuitive for when Bob Foxerson is staring at his upload going "huh. she doesn't HAVE a name...." y'know?

I'd consider something like unnamed_light_fury or nameless_light_fury for her, but I would worry that someone might put it on a nameless-but-not-that-particular-light-fury instead.... and it's not intuitive for bob Foxerson either.

It's definitely a mess! I wonder if we have any other characters like this?

Thinking about it, there are a lot of ponies that have fan-given names, so perhaps we SHOULD stick with Nubless. :| I don't like that though.

I also don't necessarily want to go with a disambiguation either, to be honest, but it would let people know to how to properly tag the character and the species should such disambiguations be used throughout.

This is one of those cases where I wish we could bend our rule about implying species.

That would be correct. The question is that should we:

• move everything that's tagged light_fury to light_fury_(species),
• change the tag type for light_fury from species to character,
• move the wiki page content of light_fury to light_fury_(species), with some necessary small changes,
• change the text of the light_fury page to something like this:

I can't do the aliasing and implimenting myself..... and, personally, I usually liek to get more than 2 voices on a subject, so .... if you're reading this an have an opinion, speak up, eh? :)

I like your wiki text! :)

I'd switch it around like this, though, changes in bold/strikeout

I certainly don't want to do all that without some consensus from other users here; this character is going to be pretty popular if she hasn't already, so we can't rush things with this one.

I agree! I"m sure someone is reading this.... ah! I see you there! come on!