Topic: Tag Alias: experiment_626 -> stitch

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Aliasing experiment_626 → stitch
Link to alias

Reason:

Character's well-known "birth" name (he was legally adopted in his canon). Aliasing will prevent double tagging for the same character.

Related alias suggestions:

626 -> stitch – Chances of a furry work from the year 626 AD/CE being posted here are extremely slim.

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What would be the point of this? Have people really ever added these tags to stuff?
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Looks like both have been added a handful of times but they were always accompanied by the stitch tag anyway, so this alias dosn't seem like it'd have any impact other than users no longer having to remove the experiment_626 and 626 tags from posts occasionally.

+1, I guess

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Furrin_Gok said:
I could see someone naming a frankenstein creation "Stitch," or some variation of it. Should we make it more obvious what this is, such as stitch_(lilo_&_stitch)?

No, because Disney's Stitch is pretty much the first character named "Stitch" anyone's going to think of. He basically owns that name in the public mindset.

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BooruHitomi said:
No, because Disney's Stitch is pretty much the first character named "Stitch" anyone's going to think of. He basically owns that name in the public mindset.

And risk mistagging it as soon as somebody throws in the tag "Stitch" for their non-Disney character, only for it to be left mistagged by that person because all they cared about was seeing that the tag stitch was present?

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Furrin_Gok said:
And risk mistagging it as soon as somebody throws in the tag "Stitch" for their non-Disney character, only for it to be left mistagged by that person because all they cared about was seeing that the tag stitch was present?

I don't believe that risk is as high as you're making it out to be; he's tagged on over 1800 posts now. Even if someone posts another character whose named "stitch" without any surname or additional non-space characters, they would probably know better than to go with just straight up "stitch" as the tag, and even if they do so anyway without realizing about the tag implications that happen, I believe that they would not be adamantly trying to claim the tag as their own and acknowledge their mistake if someone told them after making the necessary corrections. You can't just assume the worst right from the get-go. Besides that, right now the only other characters with active posts on e6 whose names start with stitch all have non-space characters after the word.

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BooruHitomi said:
You can't just assume the worst right from the get-go.

I think the opposite, you can't assume the best from the get-go. You think that nobody can possibly not know about Lilo & Stitch, but there are plenty of people who don't know about it.
Me? I see the word "Stitch" and think "oh, somebody forgot to make it plural, it's stitches." And hey, waddaya know, nearly eight hundred images, it's definitely a popular one itself.

Ignoring potential mistags, naming trends should stick together. All of the other experiments get the suffix, so Stitch should too, just so that it fits with the family Ohana. The existing Stitch alias occured without any forum thread, though that one was suffixed _(disney), not _(lilo_and_stitch).

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Furrin_Gok said:
I think the opposite, you can't assume the best from the get-go. You think that nobody can possibly not know about Lilo & Stitch, but there are plenty of people who don't know about it.
Me? I see the word "Stitch" and think "oh, somebody forgot to make it plural, it's stitches." And hey, waddaya know, nearly eight hundred images, it's definitely a popular one itself.

Ignoring potential mistags, naming trends should stick together. All of the other experiments get the suffix, so Stitch should too, just so that it fits with the family Ohana. The existing Stitch alias occured without any forum thread, though that one was suffixed _(disney), not _(lilo_and_stitch).

I'm trying to be idealistic, not assuming that everything is going to go swimmingly.

The other experiments who have the suffix are definitely not anywhere nearly as iconic or have common character names. (The popular Angel being a notable case considering all the other "Angel" characters out there including a different Disney character with the same name. And the biblical figures, of course.) But there are also a number of experiments with completely unique names that are very unlikely to be copied by anyone else, like Splodyhead, Morpholomew, Hunkahunka, and Mr. Stenchy, which are all tagged here without suffixes. To give those characters a disambig suffix would be overkill; just because the My Little Pony characters all have _(mlp) suffixes, doesn't mean that all other copyrights' characters have to follow suit. It would be worse if it's done for the major non-experiment characters such as Lilo Pelekai, Nani Pelekai, Jumba Jookiba, and even Pleakley who has a given name (Wendy) but is still has a unique enough name anyway that there's no real need to add either his first name or a disambig suffix.

But, if we were to stick to naming trends for all characters, then Krystal should have been krystal_(star_fox) ages ago. There are currently eleven other characters whose names start with krystal, including four other characters mononymously named as such, but the Star Fox character is that iconic enough that she "owns" the singular tag here.

And you see "Stitch" differently. OK, so you think of surgical sutures first. It's still not that bad, the tags can still be corrected anyway, even if a couple more tags have to be removed in the process.

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BooruHitomi said:
To give those characters a disambig suffix would be overkill; just because the My Little Pony characters all have _(mlp) suffixes, doesn't mean that all other copyrights' characters have to follow suit
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But, if we were to stick to naming trends for all characters, then Krystal should have been krystal_(star_fox) ages ago.

I mean...

If it were up to me and me alone, I'd add franchise suffixes to just about every franchise character out there. You have no idea how often I say "oh, what was that character's name? they were from franchiseX..." and end up searching for *_(fran* or c*_(fran* or even just *_(franchise) to try and get the right name. ... and of course, I don't FIND anything, so I end up trying to search for something like blue_hair Mario or aquatic zootopia or whatever.

Plus, it helps future proof things. (sure, you might be the only Victoria today, but what if the new hot furry show has a victoria?

it drives me nuts when I find a take like, say, Krystal, where there's a mess of characters all using the same tag. Name tags are intended to be used to find art of the same character, not art of characters with the same name.

MLP just made it easier to franchise-tag everything due to characters with names like Rarity, Spike, Angel...

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Genjar

Former Staff

If it were up to me, we'd only disambiguate characters when absolutely necessary.

Because it tends to make them difficult to find, and I hate having to check the master tag list for disambiguations. Simply searching for something like stitch is much easier than having to look up what disambiguation we're using.

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Genjar said:
If it were up to me, we'd only disambiguate characters when absolutely necessary.

Because it tends to make them difficult to find, and I hate having to check the master tag list for disambiguations. Simply searching for something like stitch is much easier than having to look up what disambiguation we're using.

Yeah, I've been running into issues with tags like flower_(bambi), flower_(character), and meeko_(disney). Two of those should be aliased, but the point is that three different conventions are being used and you never know which one it's going to be.

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TonyLemur said:
Yeah, I've been running into issues with tags like flower_(bambi), flower_(character), and meeko_(disney). Two of those should be aliased, but the point is that three different conventions are being used and you never know which one it's going to be.

Then clearly, the convention should be standardized ;)

*_(character) should basically, in my opinion, be eliminated. It's uninformative and unhelpful.

It should be (in my opinion)

  • character_(franchise) -- flower_(bambi)
  • character_(owner) -- wolfy_(wolferton)

and character_(company) (meeko_(disney)) should be extremely limited.. Like mickey_mouse_(disney) or hello_kitty_(sanrio)

It's not perfect, but it'd be a lot closer to perfect if everyone followed a single standard :3 and clearly, my opinion is the best and everyone should listen to me.

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All right, I'm getting this out of the way for the sake of reporting these things.

As some of you may have noticed by now (if you've seen the wiki), there have been a few changes made instead:

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