Who else has been warned for a "creepy comment" that was vastly upvoted/agreed with? This is becoming a problem. Everybody else likes it, but staff calls you creepy? Obviously, a very subjective and rude thing to do, that is only possible because of the staff's position of power and ego.

I don't comment much so I don't have this problem but I agree. Isn't that why @tiamat5 got banned? All of his comments were upvoted but he still got banned for being "creepy."

Fluffy_Tail said:
Who else has been warned for a "creepy comment" that was vastly upvoted/agreed with? This is becoming a problem. Everybody else likes it, but staff calls you creepy? Obviously, a very subjective and rude thing to do.

Just because other people approve or disapprove of what you said doesn't change the fact that it was an inappropriate comment. Saying you want to do something to a character in a picture absolutely constitutes as creepy commentary.

MissChu said:
Just because other people approve or disapprove of what you said doesn't change the fact that it was an inappropriate comment. Saying you want to do something to a character in a picture absolutely constitutes as creepy commentary.

Wow, that's weird, cause I see it almost every day and it doesn't bother me, or anyone else in the comments at all. Seems like a very small minority is being catered to here.

wanker said:
I don't comment much so I don't have this problem but I agree. Isn't that why @tiamat5 got banned? All of his comments were upvoted but he still got banned for being "creepy."

Probably. I remember tiamat, and I usually upvoted his posts. he was a perfectly fine user.

Fun Fact: Your comments can be popular and still creepy. Creepy isn't about how many upvotes you get. It's about whether the average person would read your comment and think, "Wow, I really wish you'd kept that to yourself."

Another Fun Fact: it can still be creepy even if doesn't creep you out. Who knows? Maybe you didn't notice because you just haven't grown up enough to develop a filter for these things. Or maybe you're all grown up, but you're just a creepy person. :)

CCoyote said:
Fun fact: You can be popular and still creepy. Creepy isn't about how many upvotes you get. It's about whether the average person would read your comment and think, "Wow, I really wish you'd kept that to your self." And this is even cooler: it can still be creepy even if doesn't creep you out. Who knows? Maybe you're just a creepy person.

But it's not the average person that thinks that. It's the minority. The average user agrees with the "creepy" comment.

Fluffy_Tail said:
But it's not the average person that thinks that. It's the minority. The average user agrees with the "creepy" comment.

Mmm, no, that's not how statistics work. Sorry!

CCoyote said:
Mmm, no, that's not how statistics work. Sorry!

Oh I didn't know we have statistics! I was just looking at the painfully obvious unanimous agreement that "creepy" comments aren't creepy, and a very small minority being upset.

Fluffy_Tail said:
Wow, that's weird, cause I see it almost every day and it doesn't bother me, or anyone else in the comments at all. Seems like a very small minority is being catered to here.

People can and do report things anonymously, without you knowing. If an admin rules that your comment was unacceptable, you get the grey mark. If it's that bad enough, it gets a red mark.

Also, 'I would do X to that character' comments have ALWAYS been ruled as creepy.

Fluffy_Tail said:
painfully obvious unanimous agreement

Citation needed.

Dude, we do not need to know that you want to put your tongue on the sexual anatomy of some random artist's creation. That's what makes it creepy. Keep that stuff to yourself.

Second time I've asked this today: Why in the hell do we even have to say things like this?

Alright, so clearly we're gonna defend the staff, and say they can do no wrong here. Guess we're not ready to actually discuss this. I'm not gonna argue with a brick wall.

Fluffy_Tail said:
Alright, so clearly we're gonna defend the staff, and say they can do no wrong here. Guess we're not ready to actually discuss this. I'm not gonna argue with a brick wall.

That's a red herring. This isn't about the staff's behavior; it's about your behavior. You're the one who thought you needed to tell everyone about your personal sex fantasies.

I have same problem.
If you comment about a fetish that is on a picture, it is "intopic" and related to the pictures.
The range of "Creepy comments" is too large.
Talking about a thing related to the pic and
his contenent must be allowed when is in the
rating of the picture.

CCoyote said:
That's a red herring. This isn't about the staff's behavior; it's about your behavior. You're the one who thought you needed to tell everyone about your personal sex fantasies.

You refuse to acknowledge the part where a staff member calling you creepy, when everyone else that you can see liked it, feels really bad. Sorry that you think I'm "creepy". Clearly, everyone else didn't.

Fluffy_Tail said:
But it's not the average person that thinks that. It's the minority. The average user agrees with the "creepy" comment.

The average "person", taken from an average western society, would absolutely agree with our assessment that this is entire unacceptable behavior. The average "user" of our page may or may not agree with that.

The "minority" we cater to with this rule are just the socially well adjusted individuals.

Fluffy_Tail said:
You refuse to acknowledge the part where a staff member calling you creepy, when everyone else that you can see liked it, feels really bad. Sorry that you think I'm "creepy". Clearly, everyone else didn't.

Then don't break the rules, and you won't have to worry about it. Honestly, nobody would have even noticed your neutral mark if you hadn't created an entire forum to advertise it.

NotMeNotYou said:
The average "person", taken from an average western society, would absolutely agree with our assessment that this is entire unacceptable behavior. The average "user" of our page may or may not agree with that.

The "minority" we cater to with this rule are just the socially well adjusted individuals.

Alright, so we're basically setting our rules for normies, I gotcha.

CCoyote said:
Then don't break the rules, and you won't have to worry about it. Honestly, nobody would have even noticed your neutral mark if you hadn't created an entire forum to advertise it.

I wanted to bring light to a problem that needs addressed, and hurt my feelings.

I can see you guys have gone to my profile and added 3 downvotes to the comment tho

Fluffy_Tail said:
I wanted to bring light to a problem that needs addressed, and hurt my feelings.

What I'm hearing you say is that they embarrassed you by telling you that you broke on of the site's clearly stated rules. But you had the opportunity to read those rules ahead of time and abide by them as part of your agreement to use this site under their conditions. You chose to either not read, ignore, or break those rules, so how is it their fault if you got your feelings hurt for something you did wrong?

Also, could you help me understand how that neutral mark is embarrassing, but telling hundreds of present and future strangers that you want to lick a cartoon cat's underwear isn't?

Fluffy_Tail said:
Alright, so we're basically setting our rules for normies, I gotcha.

Considering a some of the artists who's works get posted here are said "Normies," yes. We aim to support as many people as we can, and nobody's being hurt by being asked "Hey, please don't say how much you want to do certain things to this character." If the artist allows it, go say so on their pages, not here.

If you go on a picture where someone is eating a taco,
and you comment:"That taco looks very jummy, is full of sauce".
Someone like a vegan can find your comment creepy,
and you get a warning.
This is exessive for me.
The comment was't more offensive than the picture, and if you find it offensive just use the tags to avoid it.
Otherwiswe just delete the comment if "offensive" like
they removes pictures not allowed.

I'm here from the 2015, i comment a lot from looong time, but only recently i receive a lot of warnings for "creepy comments". Now i'm scared to comment for being blocked or worse.

I personally found most of tiamat's comments fine, but frankly, this isn't my site, and if the admins think this is best for the majority of the users, then I'm not gonna mess with that.

CCoyote said:
What I'm hearing you say is that they embarrassed you by telling you that you broke on of the site's clearly stated rules. But you had the opportunity to read those rules ahead of time and abide by them as part of your agreement to use this site under their conditions. You chose to either not read, ignore, or break those rules, so how is it their fault if you got your feelings hurt for something you did wrong?

Also, could you help me understand how that neutral mark is embarrassing, but telling hundreds of present and future strangers that you want to lick a cartoon cat's underwear isn't?

How is saying what you want to do any different from making a comment like "Oh wow her ass is amazing"? The implication is the same. The latter just doesn't explicitly say it. You're being really condescending for something that's a really grey area.

Fluffy_Tail said:
How is saying what you want to do any different from making a comment like "Oh wow her ass is amazing"? The implication is the same. The latter just doesn't explicitly say it. You're being really condescending for something that's a really grey area.

It's not the same.

I'm not being condescending.

It's not a gray area.

You seem to want to critique everyone's behavior except your own.

Lerrmot said:
If you go on a picture where someone is eating a taco,
and you comment:"That taco looks very jummy, is full of sauce".
Someone like a vegan can find your comment creepy,
and you get a warning.

What? Saying the artist drew a delicious looking taco, that you'd want a taco like that, isn't creepy. Saying that about a pussy is. People talk about food fantasies all the time, but you'd get in trouble for talking about sexual fantasies out like in a public setting.

I'm here from the 2015, i comment a lot from looong time, but only recently i receive a lot of warnings for "creepy comments". Now i'm scared to comment for being blocked or worse.

Just don't talk about your sexual or romantic fantasies.

Whatever. Guess I just won't be talking about myself in a comment ever again. To be safe. Feels really weird on a furry porn website, but I guess that's that.

Litmus test: if you were not (a) on a furry site (b) commenting on titillating art, would a given comment be considered acceptable? That closely approximates e621's creepiness tolerance.

Also, the comment you've been reprimanded for currently has net +2 score, yet the post has net +69 score. Let's assume that at least 500 e621 users have seen that post so far. How the fuck is 0.4% approval an endorsement from "the average user"?

NotMeNotYou said:
The average "person", taken from an average western society, would absolutely agree with our assessment that this is entire unacceptable behavior. The average "user" of our page may or may not agree with that.

The "minority" we cater to with this rule are just the socially well adjusted individuals.

Why on Earth would you cater to people who never even heard of this site instead of everyone else who does? And, well...one can dislike "creepy" comments and still not be 'socially well adjusted" just FYI

As for the comment, I haven't seen it, I can't say whether I think it's creepy or not. But let's not cater to a minority of users, that makes little sense in all forms of leadership.

abadbird said:
Litmus test: if you were not (a) on a furry site (b) commenting on titillating art, would a given comment be considered acceptable? That closely approximates e621's creepiness tolerance.

Also, the comment you've been reprimanded for currently has net +2 score, yet the post has net +69 score. Let's assume that at least 500 e621 users have seen that post so far. How the fuck is 0.4% approval an endorsement from "the average user"?

I had 5 upvotes before making this forum post. Calm down.

Fluffy_Tail said:
Guess I just won't be talking about myself in a comment ever again.

That's actually a pretty good rule of thumb.

abadbird said:
Litmus test: if you were not (a) on a furry site (b) commenting on titillating art, would a given comment be considered acceptable? That closely approximates e621's creepiness tolerance.

Also, the comment you've been reprimanded for currently has net +2 score, yet the post has net +69 score. Let's assume that at least 500 e621 users have seen that post so far. How the fuck is 0.4% approval an endorsement from "the average user"?

How many users typically engage with voting in the comments compared to voting for the post itself? The only thing I see with your stats is that more users voted up the comment than voted down.

PheagleAdler said:
How many users typically engage with voting in the comments compared to voting for the post itself? The only thing I see with your stats is that more users voted up the comment than voted down.

Same, I agree. I think he was intentionally ignoring things like downvotes and average comment interaction to help his point.

If a creepy comment is getting alot of upvotes I think the staff should be more inclined to send warnings and temporary bans. I mean this is a porn site where almost everything is allowed as long as it's furry and fictional. If the majority don't like them they really should use their voting power so the rest don't have to see it when it gets enough negatives.

I get why mods are reducing creepy comments here but when a comment get lots of upvotes I think it raise questions on how the deal with it as comments are a popular part of this site.

Sorrowless said:
If a creepy comment is getting alot of upvotes I think the staff should be more inclined to send warnings and temporary bans. I mean this is a porn site where almost everything is allowed as long as it's furry and fictional. If the majority don't like them they really should use their voting power so the rest don't have to see it when it gets enough negatives.

I get why mods are reducing creepy comments here but when a comment get lots of upvotes I think it raise questions on how the deal with it as comments are a popular part of this site.

I think we should let people comment whatever they want (minus racial/sexist/pedo/spam stuff) and let the votes do the talking. This isn't a safe space, it's a porn community. Rule34xxx has the system I just mentioned. They get along just fine.

Fluffy_Tail said:
I think we should let people comment whatever they want (minus racial/sexist/pedo/spam stuff) and let the votes do the talking. This isn't a safe space, it's a porn community. Rule34xxx has the system I just mentioned. They get along just fine.

I'd rather have a well moderated site than one that simply lets fuck all happen. Such as furaffinity, deviantart, so on.

MissChu said:
I'd rather have a well moderated site than one that simply lets fuck all happen. Such as furaffinity, deviantart, so on.

Pros and cons, I suppose.

PheagleAdler said:
Why on Earth would you cater to people who never even heard of this site instead of everyone else who does? And, well...one can dislike "creepy" comments and still not be 'socially well adjusted" just FYI

Because that's what the e6 community wanted back in 2013 when we rewrote our rules.

PheagleAdler said:
As for the comment, I haven't seen it, I can't say whether I think it's creepy or not. But let's not cater to a minority of users, that makes little sense in all forms of leadership.

You'll have to excuse us that we won't be taking advice from you on how to run our page.

Fluffy_Tail said:
I think we should let people comment whatever they want (minus racial/sexist/pedo/spam stuff) and let the votes do the talking. This isn't a safe space, it's a porn community. Rule34xxx has the system I just mentioned. They get along just fine.

So basically people should say what ever they want, unless it bothers you than it's not aloud? That's a double standard if ever there was. Simply put, a majority of people don't actually comment on images, a majority of people don't comment on forums, and a majority of people don't want to know about how about what others have done, what others want to do, or how others fantasize about artwork. There is other stuff people can say which doesn't constitute creepy comments yet still go against site rules. I've had a previous records for creepy comments but I don't blame staff for my own actions.

Neutral records aren't negatives, they're informatives on what you did wrong and to change it. They expire after 6 months if you don't do the same thing twice and you can ask them to be removed. The rules in place keep the site from being a grease pit of nasty comments, and I for one am all for them.

Also, the staff doesn't go looking for people to give records for creepy comments, if you get a record it's 95% of the time because another user reported you.
https://e621.net/wiki/show/e621:rules#creepy

NotMeNotYou said:
Because that's what the e6 community wanted back in 2013 when we rewrote our rules.

You'll have to excuse us that we won't be taking advice from you on how to run our page.

Times are changing. And we're still the community too.

Versperus said:
So basically people should say what ever they want, unless it bothers you than it's not aloud? That's a double standard if ever there was. Simply put, a majority of people don't actually comment on images, a majority of people don't comment on forums, and a majority of people don't want to know about how about what others have done, what others want to do, or how others fantasize about artwork. There is other stuff people can say which doesn't constitute creepy comments yet still go against site rules. I've had a previous records for creepy comments but I don't blame staff for my own actions.

Neutral records aren't negatives, they're informatives on what you did wrong and to change it. They expire after 6 months if you don't do the same thing twice and you can ask them to be removed. The rules in place keep the site from being a grease pit of nasty comments, and I for one am all for them.

Also, the staff doesn't go looking for people to give records for creepy comments, if you get a record it's 95% of the time because another user reported you.
https://e621.net/wiki/show/e621:rules#creepy

Yes, I've read the rules. Thank you for the link. And no, you're putting words in my mouth. I said let votes do the talking. If people like it, they'll upvote. If people don't, they'll downvote. Maybe there could be a deletion threshhold for like 10 downvotes. Also, where are you getting the idea that it's not allowed if I don't like it? Lol, that's what this thread is about. Happening to me.

Fluffy_Tail said:
Yes, I've read the rules. Thank you for the link. And no, you're putting words in my mouth. I said let votes do the talking. If people like it, they'll upvote. If people don't, they'll downvote. Maybe there could be a deletion threshhold for like 10 downvotes.

-1

Versperus said:
-1

-2 for the strawman

Fluffy_Tail said:
Maybe there could be a deletion threshhold for like 10 downvotes.

Each user can manually set their comment threshhold. Comments with a lower score is then hidden to them.

MyNameIsOver20charac said:
Each user can manually set their comment threshhold. Comments with a lower score is then hidden to them.

Yeah I know, I have my threshold off since I usually just open hidden comments anyways.

Fluffy_Tail said:
Times are changing. And we're still the community too.

As long as creepy comments can't be blacklisted you'll have to live with the fact that that rule will not be going away, no matter how popular you think being a creep is.

This is one of those situations where being excellent to each other inculdes keeping the details about your sexual fantasies to yourself.

Yeah no, if you want to see what it looks like when mods don't gig people for making creepy comments, try visiting Literotica. The reviews are filled with disgustingly creepy comments. I don't think I could post my stories there without my skin crawling off my body.

Fluffy_Tail said:
Yes, I've read the rules. Thank you for the link. And no, you're putting words in my mouth. I said let votes do the talking. If people like it, they'll upvote. If people don't, they'll downvote. Maybe there could be a deletion threshhold for like 10 downvotes. Also, where are you getting the idea that it's not allowed if I don't like it? Lol, that's what this thread is about. Happening to me.

No. I don't care to know how people would want to have sex or violate (insert random generic furry character here). If I did I wouldn't be here.

Also, nobody is censoring you or demanding that you shut up. You just don't seem to like that we aren't in agreement with you.

Just don't post your sexual fantasies? It doesn't seem too hard xd.

This whole thread is one guy's temper tantrum over getting a neutral record. It wasn't even a negative.

You really might want to take a step back and inspect your own behavior and attitudes if you really get this riled up over being told to not publicly announce that you want to lick some cartoon animal's dick.

Ok, I'm sorry. Maybe I'm just wrong. I won't do it again.

NotMeNotYou said:
Because that's what the e6 community wanted back in 2013 when we rewrote our rules.

You'll have to excuse us that we won't be taking advice from you on how to run our page.

I would appreciate if you'd take my thoughts and concerns into account. I am a member of this community, after all. I haven't always been the most civil but that doesn't mean my concerns are invalid.

In my mind, I've had the thought "treat this place like you would a public art gallery" (as in one that you visit IRL) ever since (some time after) joining the site. For example, if you were in a public museum and you said something like "Wow, those colours look amazing! I love the way the background looks!" people might do a little nod and "mhm" and agree with you. However, if you were instead to go all "Man, I'd like to plunder her caverns and mine some gold! What I wouldn't give!" then people would probably report you to a security guard if given serious and/or frequent enough offenses, and you'd be thrown out (and possibly barred from re-visiting) on the account that you may be a creep, given enough close contact with another person alone is established, even if it isn't actually true.

I know that e621 isn't a public museum or anything in a real building with framed pictures, but it is a website that's not only accessible by a few people, and there's no way of telling if a person acts similarly in both behind a screen and out in public situations. Better safe than sorry, though. Plus, it's helped limit the type of comments I make (especially after reading through some of my older comments and flinching a little), and I hope it can help other people if I write this out here.

Back to lurking and wiki-paging for me, now.

Fluffy_Tail said:
I think we should let people comment whatever they want (minus racial/sexist/pedo/spam stuff) and let the votes do the talking. This isn't a safe space, it's a porn community. Rule34xxx has the system I just mentioned. They get along just fine.

That site's comment section is utter trash and I'm glad I don't need to see some horny dude in the comments on half the posts here RPing as a girl in the image with the lamest possible porn dialog about how they just LOVE getting stuffed with cocks.

I agree with the rule, except "creepy" is too general or subjective for a rulebook,maybe change it to "Inappropriate sexual conduct"?

Tom20 said:
I agree with the rule, except "creepy" is too general or subjective for a rulebook,maybe change it to "Inappropriate sexual conduct"?

The rule is supposed to cover other types of comments than just sexual comments. People can act creepy without actually saying anything sexual.

Tom20 said:
I agree with the rule, except "creepy" is too general or subjective for a rulebook,maybe change it to "Inappropriate sexual conduct"?

basically anyone can report someone that they find creepy, but it is still up to staff to decide if it is, so not everything that is reported has action taken against the reported person.

AgentParadox said:
In my mind, I've had the thought "treat this place like you would a public art gallery" (as in one that you visit IRL) ever since (some time after) joining the site. For example, if you were in a public museum and you said something like "Wow, those colours look amazing! I love the way the background looks!" people might do a little nod and "mhm" and agree with you. However, if you were instead to go all "Man, I'd like to plunder her caverns and mine some gold! What I wouldn't give!" then people would probably report you to a security guard if given serious and/or frequent enough offenses

What about bless this sexually aggressive dragoness, or Aww she's gorgeous uwu, or dragons in lingerie will never not be hot? Not exactly something you'd say publicly IRL at pictures of that sort, but things like it are fairly often said here with little apparent repercussions.

Yes, obviously there's limits to what is acceptable commenting. And maybe the above examples aren't completely acceptable. But as someone else said, "creepy" is rather general and vague. To many people, the kinds of pictures e6 allows is rather creepy to begin with, let alone someone merely mentioning that they like said picture. Aside from obvious examples (e.g. "I want to do X to them", being obviously creepy), how is someone supposed to tell what could potentially constitute "creepy" and break the rule?

It is important to remember we are a art archive, not a porn site. You wouldn't go to a museum and say out-loud "god i wish i could fuck Mona Lisa", or go to a library and announce you are fapping.
Just because you are anonymous on here doesn't make comments any less creepy.
Tiamat5 was banned because he was warned multiple times and yet continued to push his luck with being creepy. Some comments he made may not have counted as creepy but he kept on ignoring our warnings. It is entirely his fault.

Watsit said:
What about bless this sexually aggressive dragoness, or Aww she's gorgeous uwu, or dragons in lingerie will never not be hot? Not exactly something you'd say publicly IRL at pictures of that sort, but things like it are fairly often said here with little apparent repercussions.

Yes, obviously there's limits to what is acceptable commenting. And maybe the above examples aren't completely acceptable. But as someone else said, "creepy" is rather general and vague. To many people, the kinds of pictures e6 allows is rather creepy to begin with, let alone someone merely mentioning that they like said picture. Aside from obvious examples (e.g. "I want to do X to them", being obviously creepy), how is someone supposed to tell what could potentially constitute "creepy" and break the rule?

By reporting questionable comments and leaving the ruling up to admins. If you'd prefer a website with a non-curated commenting system, furaffinity is that way.

MissChu said:
By reporting questionable comments and leaving the ruling up to admins. If you'd prefer a website with a non-curated commenting system, furaffinity is that way.

The issue a couple of us are raising isn't there being rules against "creepy" comments, it's knowing what could potentially violate said rules. Would a comment I make break the rule? I mean, if we go by the rule as written:

"Creating forum posts, threads, or comments that cause an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease, or are sexually inappropriate"

"Unpleasant" and "unease" are highly subjective feelings. "Sexually inappropriate" comments are also kind of hard to avoid on images that are already highly sexual. All 3 examples I gave would fail if taking the rule at face value, as would any post using sexually-charged words like cock or pussy. Heck, words like dickgirl and cuntboy have been long-derided due to making trans and intersex people have "an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease", so are you not allowed to use them in comments even if they're not intended to be negative? If it should be taken as "inappropriate given the type of image" (i.e. sexual comments are okay in response to sexual images as long as it's not over the top or unrelated to the image, and no sexual comments on non-sexual images), then some clarification there would be helpful. But even the laymen explanation:

"This is intended to ensure that users do not express their personal fetishes/desires publicly."

That's basically violated anytime someone says "That's hot" or "Love this" on picture with clear fetish intent. How is it not expressing one's personal fetish to comment in approval of a fetish-based image? I don't imagine this is the kind of thing it's meant to dissuade, or if it is, there's no indication of any action being taken over such comments, leaving us to think they're okay.

I'm perfectly fine with this site having rules against certain kinds of comments, the site owners/admins can put up whatever rules they want and I'll try to follow them for as long as I use the site. But at the same time, if there's going to be a rule like "no creepy comments", it would be beneficial to all involved to not leave it so broad or vague as to make it seem arbitrarily enforced and arbitrarily reported. It would help us keep from accidentally stepping over the line where it's currently up to individual interpretation as to what's enough, and help us know whether someone else's comment is worth reporting as a potential violation (the less sure someone is, the less likely they'll be to report it or the more likely they'll inadvertently report non-violations).

The line we draw for creepy comments is mostly centered around self-insertion. Saying you want to do X to Y, saying you'd like to be in Y's position, etc.

If you like a pair of tits saying they're neat, awesome, bombastic, or similar is not going to count as creepy, saying you want to lick them will be.

MissChu said:
Just because other people approve or disapprove of what you said doesn't change the fact that it was an inappropriate comment. Saying you want to do something to a character in a picture absolutely constitutes as creepy commentary.

So your contention is that, even though nobody on the site has a problem with a comment, the few on top that do should dictate what the users experience of a site is? Sounds like a good way to kill all the fun on a website. Creepy comments are a furry tradition at this point. The admins are on a power trip it's so fucking obvious.

NotMeNotYou said:
The line we draw for creepy comments is mostly centered around self-insertion. Saying you want to do X to Y, saying you'd like to be in Y's position, etc.

If you like a pair of tits saying they're neat, awesome, bombastic, or similar is not going to count as creepy, saying you want to lick them will be.

After reading this thread, I'm personally still on the side of "Ease up a bit, yeah?" but this sounds reasonable and makes sense. Might help to insert this vital information you've just provided into the rule itself, though. So there's some actual clarification for the future, is all.

haxxx said:
So your contention is that, even though nobody on the site has a problem with a comment, the few on top that do should dictate what the users experience of a site is? Sounds like a good way to kill all the fun on a website. Creepy comments are a furry tradition at this point. The admins are on a power trip it's so fucking obvious.

I, for one, don't think it makes for good policy to use a comment's popularity to determine whether it should be an exception to the rule, whether individually, or in the context of a user or a conversation.

While the tagging system is the greatest reason I like this site, the creepy comments policy is a substantial cherry on the icing. The older I get, the more strongly I feel this way.

And as for the popularity of the rule itself goes, we're 3 pages in and I currently count 11 for and 8 against, not counting Privileged and Admin users, or myself (who collectively would make it 15 for and 8 against). The site's not a democracy but it's heartening to observe that there are more participants in favor of the policy than against it.

Also, ask yourself: Do you want brrbrrdrrs? Because uncurated comments are how you get brrbrrdrrs.

haxxx said:
So your contention is that, even though nobody on the site has a problem with a comment, the few on top that do should dictate what the users experience of a site is? Sounds like a good way to kill all the fun on a website. Creepy comments are a furry tradition at this point. The admins are on a power trip it's so fucking obvious.

And this is part of why I don't like the idea of association with this fandom. Also, traditions are potentially bad or good, defending them simply because 'that's how it's always been' is never a solid claim.

haxxx said:
So your contention is that, even though nobody on the site has a problem with a comment, the few on top that do should dictate what the users experience of a site is? Sounds like a good way to kill all the fun on a website. Creepy comments are a furry tradition at this point. The admins are on a power trip it's so fucking obvious.

If "nobody on the site" had a problem with the comments they wouldn't get reported on the regular, which is almost exclusively how this rule gets enforced. You are not by any means entitled to speak for the entirety of this site's userbase.

haxxx said:
So your contention is that, even though nobody on the site has a problem with a comment, the few on top that do should dictate what the users experience of a site is? Sounds like a good way to kill all the fun on a website. Creepy comments are a furry tradition at this point. The admins are on a power trip it's so fucking obvious.

You basically said you know what kind of things people say are creepy, but it should be allowed because furry. It's not a tradition, it's just that most places wont stop the nasty people from being nasty.

NotMeNotYou said:
saying you'd like to be in Y's position

Really? You don't think that's a bit too sensitive? Because when it comes to transformation, I'd gladly switch positions with some so-called victims. You're telling me I can't even wish I was in their shoes?

hanzai said:
If "nobody on the site" had a problem with the comments they wouldn't get reported on the regular, which is almost exclusively how this rule gets enforced. You are not by any means entitled to speak for the entirety of this site's userbase.

Let's be honest, there are people out there that get offended by nearly anything. Granted many reports are valid but I'm sure some are just over-the-top, complaining just to complain.

PheagleAdler said:
Really? You don't think that's a bit too sensitive? Because when it comes to transformation, I'd gladly switch positions with some so-called victims. You're telling me I can't even wish I was in their shoes?

Why is it hard to understand you don't need to voice your fantasies.
Just don't voice them, it's not complicated.

Versperus said:
Why is it hard to understand you don't need to voice your fantasies.
Just don't voice them, it's not complicated.

Just because I have fantasies doesn't make them creepy.

PheagleAdler said:
Just because I have fantasies doesn't make them creepy.

Just don't voice them, it's not complicated.