Despite having genitals that have no sexual acts in them, why are some artistic nudes rated explicit and not questionable/mature?

Derpibooru somewhat rate artistic nudes in the "Questionable" rating for what I know, and some nude artworks on FurAffinity use the "Mature" rating.

Why "Explicit" here?

Any examples?

Because this whole shit is way too subjective to start figuring out what is "just artistic nudity" and what is porn. Seriously literally everyone has different views of what is tasteful artistic nudity and what is not. It's a lot less messy and there will be a lot less arguments based on subjectivity alone if all genitalia and assholes are explicit with no exceptions.

AlexYorim said:
Despite having genitals that have no sexual acts in them, why are some artistic nudes rated explicit and not questionable/mature?

Derpibooru somewhat rate artistic nudes in the "Questionable" rating for what I know, and some nude artworks on FurAffinity use the "Mature" rating.

Why "Explicit" here?

Here, any kind of visible genitalia in the slightest amount is considered "Explicit". That's how the rules go here. And I wouldn't use FurAffinity as an example of a website with good tagging system, since it's almost non-existent. Some posts have good tagging, some posts barely have any tagging, and some posts have no tags at all. And it seems that they don't have strict guidelines on what is considered "Mature" and what's considered "Adult", so it's a subjective rating chosen by the artist.

The reason e621's TWYS system is vastly superior to FurAffinity's pseudo-tagging system is that it's very systematic and very detailed. Thanks to that, it's very easy to find exactly what you're looking for, and blacklist everything that you don't want to see. Yes, this system has flaws, as seen with the recent Whygena fiasco, but honestly, it's the best system compared to other furry sites.

randomguy85 said:
Yes, this system has flaws, as seen with the recent Whygena fiasco, but honestly, it's the best system compared to other furry sites.

That's not a very big achievement tbh.

The "system" also makes it very easy to blacklist stuff you weren't meant to, find stuff you'd rather prefer to have blacklisted, and never find what you're actually looking for. Think of the people who try searching for "female otter" expecting to find that Tsampikos character for instance.

@crusty_fire: forum #255002

Forgot to add an example.

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So it has to do with tags, then?

Despite having this drawn with no sexual activities, this is considered explicit. But if this was drawn oi back view, it's considered questionable, to put it correctly?

Also, if nudes are drawn in the manner of classical paintings a la "The Birth of Venus" or Goya's "La Maja Desnuda", where "female presenting nipples" are revealed, are they considered explicit still?

If there's just nipples or butt it is questionable.

AlexYorim said:

Also, if nudes are drawn in the manner of classical paintings a la "The Birth of Venus" or Goya's "La Maja Desnuda", where "female presenting nipples" are revealed, are they considered explicit still?

What on earth you are going on about? Visible female nipples are rated as questionable, not explicit. Also nipples are not exactly comparable to visible genitalia.

Just go and look up stuff from deviantart.

They do not allow porn, but do allow artistic nudity, but the way they define this is stuff like arousal, penetration and bodily fluids and even there seems to be some level of tolarance. Also because of this distinguishion, female in almost any scenario and licking nipples are pretty much always fine, but if male is having erection or finger going into vagina it's suddenly not allright.

I'm not going to link to this, because majority of these would count as pornography, but you can go to deviantart and then photography -> people -> artistic nudity with logged in account allowing mature content to see what I'm talking about.

I'm not saying that there isn't such thing as artistic nudity, you can have nudity in artwork and it does not have to have any sexual meaning but simply portray body naturally, however the line between artistic and pornographic is vague and always subjective, even line deviantart has drawn is their own interpitation that should keep most pornographic things away, but at the same time it does favor female selfies over anything else.

And now thinking how this would be implemented in e621? There's ~22000 posts under female solo spread_legs -bodily_fluids, ~10000 posts under male solo flaccid -bodily_fluids and I would count majority of these as explicit, pornographic or othervice having sexual acts or connotations (also as you can see, we do have objective tags to search for something specific like this). We have already drawn our own line in that genitals = explicit, bit more mature stuff like ambiguous bulges or bare breasts = questionable and that has worked really well and is easy to objectively enforce and communicate.

AlexYorim said:
Forgot to add an example.

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And this kinda highlights the ambiguity and subjectivity. Because many here have suggested "artistic" or "bearly explicit" tags, but these examples usually are using examples like feral animals sheat showing slightly or cartoony x-anus. Meanwhile here straight up nude character fully exposed in non-cartoony way.

Another thing to note that explicit rating should be taken as is, it's not negative or positive, it's there to help with categorization and our categorization of explicit, questionable and safe are not the same as they are on elsewhere like FA or DA.