Topic: So, what worthwhile changes have been made to CoC?

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I hear that Leon Panetta is no longer the secretary of defense

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Durandal said:
I hear that Leon Panetta is no longer the secretary of defense

I said CoC not USA :/

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Halite said:
In 2 years? A lot.
A lot lot.

Also, TiTS.

Meh, not really interested in TiTS. I'm not really big on Sci-Fi and it looks like there's more corruption there than in CoC.

Here's an except from the link:
"I'm very straightfoward, good-willed and fully heterosexual. I can't bring myself to dedicate myself towards corruption (I've done this and found myself bored and disturbed), I refuse to do anything involving the same sex (and I consider futa's the same sex as I only believe in two genders) and I just want to continue kicking demon ass without it being the same group of demons I've defeated countless times."

"I enjoyed being the only driving force in a corrupted land and upon making my character practically immortal I enjoyed exploring and killing evil things for a short time. After all resources went into Urta I kinda lost interest in slaying creatures that I'd bested countless times already. I also can't even react with Urta because of what he is and I got incredibly bored with Edryn. I'm hoping that the adventure will continue soon so I can feed my need to... adventure!"

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Ko-san said:
Yeah... I'm not clicking that.

That is a wikipedia link to the article for hermaphrodites, homo sapiens sapiens is almost binary in their genders (less than 2% fall outside of the classic male or female type) but we are very much almost alone with that, having 3 or more genders per species is not rare.
That is like saying you only believe in frozen and liquid water, but not in gaseous water.

Back to CoC, if you completely cut of the Corruption part your only safe bet will be the third dungeon and last dungeon, which will hopefully be added before the year is over.
Otherwise you're shit out of luck, corrupting stuff or interactions with the fantastical genders aka horsedicked foxes are the lifeblood of CoC, if you choose to ignore that content you won't have too much left.

Edit: And how do you get "he" for Urta? If you follwed the quest you should knew the penis is there because a god decided to place it there, so for all intents and purposes "she" would be better fitted since that is what the original plan for the body was, until the trickster god decided that a penis would help for whatever reason.

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NotMeNotYou said:
Edit: And how do you get "he" for Urta? If you follwed the quest you should knew the penis is there because a god decided to place it there, so for all intents and purposes "she" would be better fitted since that is what the original plan for the body was, until the trickster god decided that a penis would help for whatever reason.

As far as I can see, they think sex and gender are interchangeable words, and are fumbling pronouns based on that misunderstanding.

Not sure if quote is OP quoting himself posting to the forum thread, or just quoting someone else who happens to have the same opinions.

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savageorange said:
As far as I can see, they think sex and gender are interchangeable words, and are fumbling pronouns based on that misunderstanding.

Not sure if quote is OP quoting himself posting to the forum thread, or just quoting someone else who happens to have the same opinions.

I'm quoting myself. If you want to know my stance on the matter regarding gender (sex, if you must) then visit the link. There is a bit of discussion on the matter.

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Ko-san said:
I'm quoting myself. If you want to know my stance on the matter regarding gender (sex, if you must) then visit the link. There is a bit of discussion on the matter.

That doesn't make sense, you use words in a way that goes completely against established definitions and ignore everything else in the direction of psychology and otherwise.

Gay people aren't "woman trapped in a man's body", they are male people that are sexually attracted to other male people.

The thing where you feel like a different gender is called Gender_identity_disorder and is something completely unrelated.
It can (but not must) lead to people having male parts but be attracted to other males, but it can also just as well have people in a male body being attracted to females.

I would personally recommend you dick around wikipedia a bit, perhaps starting at the link above, the subject of gender, sex, society and stuff if highly interesting, once you cut out that cancer that is tumblr, and definitely worth the read and time invested.

Your current stance on this is just highly uninformed, you'd look better if you hate it while at least having correct knowledge about it. :V

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NotMeNotYou said:
That doesn't make sense, you use words in a way that goes completely against established definitions and ignore everything else in the direction of psychology and otherwise.

Gay people aren't "woman trapped in a man's body", they are male people that are sexually attracted to other male people.

The thing where you feel like a different gender is called Gender_identity_disorder and is something completely unrelated.
It can (but not must) lead to people having male parts but be attracted to other males, but it can also just as well have people in a male body being attracted to females.

I would personally recommend you dick around wikipedia a bit, perhaps starting at the link above, the subject of gender, sex, society and stuff if highly interesting, once you cut out that cancer that is tumblr, and definitely worth the read and time invested.

Your current stance on this is just highly uninformed, you'd look better if you hate it while at least having correct knowledge about it. :V

I have knowledge about it and dredge around wikipedia quite a bit already, just not about these things. Regardless, I only believe in two sexes. That doesn't have anything to do with sexual preference.

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Ko-san said:
I have knowledge about it and dredge around wikipedia quite a bit already, just not about these things. Regardless, I only believe in two sexes. That doesn't have anything to do with sexual preference.

But your current knowledge is incomplete at best and wrong at the worst.
If you're okay with knowing that then that is good for you, but don't be surprised when your "belief" doesn't work, or manages to come back at you and bite you in the ass, so to say.

I mean, this isn't a big enough problem to cause harm to yourself, but you can hurt people quite a lot with that, or seem like a fool, depending on the person.

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NotMeNotYou said:
But your current knowledge is incomplete at best and wrong at the worst.
If you're okay with knowing that then that is good for you, but don't be surprised when your "belief" doesn't work, or manages to come back at you and bite you in the ass, so to say.

I mean, this isn't a big enough problem to cause harm to yourself, but you can hurt people quite a lot with that, or seem like a fool, depending on the person.

I'm not one to insult others. As shown from the link. I'll take that my belief is scientifically wrong, but I stand by it. Breasts don't make a person female, and, for me, anything with a penis is a male. Wildlife is of no concern to me, so whatever miracles exist there don't sway my thoughts as the chances of it happening in people is practically nonexistent.

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Continuing to believe something that you know is scientifically incorrect is basically the definition of delusion.

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Halite said:
Continuing to believe something that you know is scientifically incorrect is basically the definition of delusion.

Halite said:
Continuing to believe something that you know is scientifically incorrect is basically the definition of delusion.

Beliefs, idiosyncrasy, delusion, whatever you feel like calling it. Scientifically, there are male and female sexes, and there are intersex, which generally means in the middle or "too ambiguous", but true hermaphroditism in humans is essentially nonexistent. For me, any intersex leaning toward male is male, especially regarding the actual science behind the subject. I will not call someone with a penis a female. If you do not wish to be called as such I will merely refer to you by name or something ambiguous. Regarding fictional characters... they're fake.

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Ko-san said:
Beliefs, idiosyncrasy, delusion, whatever you feel like calling it. Scientifically, there are male and female sexes, and there are intersex, which generally means in the middle or "too ambiguous", but true hermaphroditism in humans is essentially nonexistent. For me, any intersex leaning toward male is male, especially regarding the actual science behind the subject. I will not call someone with a penis a female. If you do not wish to be called as such I will merely refer to you by name or something ambiguous. Regarding fictional characters... they're fake.

2% in 7 billion is pretty far from nonexistant, but I believe the thing that gay people are woman trapped in a mans body is the bigger can of worms.

Also, it's often just a question of semantics, saying that a penis is a huge turn off for you is much nicer than saying that you don't like males, especially if you make your defintion of male based on an organ that is only 10% of the body (eg. telling a person that looks female that you aren't interested in them because they're male will lead to confusion).

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EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Take it easy, guys.

His "beliefs" are those of bigotry.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how comments like that are welcome here.

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NotMeNotYou said:
2% in 7 billion is pretty far from nonexistant, but I believe the thing that gay people are woman trapped in a mans body is the bigger can of worms.

Also, it's often just a question of semantics, saying that a penis is a huge turn off for you is much nicer than saying that you don't like males, especially if you make your defintion of male based on an organ that is only 10% of the body (eg. telling a person that looks female that you aren't interested in them because they're male will lead to confusion).

By "true hermaphrodite" I mean an individual with both male and female fully developed and working genitalia, in which case, there are no documented cases of this existing and in intersex people over 95% of the time only the penis works with the rest being cases of either only the vagina working or neither working. The 1-2% includes all intersex people who either have ambiguous genitalia, or ambiguous genes and most of the time the "issue", for lack of a better word, is resolved at birth or at most before adolescence.

Also,
these are all guys.

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Halite said:
His "beliefs" are those of bigotry.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how comments like that are welcome here.

Bigotry:
a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group

My statements are not ones of bigotry. I am not slandering any people or attempting to insult others.

Here is an excerpt from one transgender individual regarding my belief

Your attitude is overwhelmingly refreshing and appreciated, which is why I respect your opinion. Not once did you come across to me as being a dick, disrespectful, or other wise an ass. Which is not as common with people that hold similar beliefs as you, and is why I made it a point at the end to say I respect and appreciate your opinion."

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Ko-san said:
Bigotry:
a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group

My statements are not ones of bigotry. I am not slandering any people or attempting to insult others.

Here is an excerpt from one transgender individual regarding my belief

So, it wouldn't be bigoted if I said I don't believe in black people? Or Jews?

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Halite said:
So, it wouldn't be bigoted if I said I don't believe in black people? Or Jews?

That seems more like the "I don't see race, I'm color blind" statements. Like it's trying to not be offensive, but some would be offended. Regardless, it's nothing like what I've said.

An equivalent to what I'm stating would be, "are your parents black? then you're black" with you saying, "that's offensive to black people who don't identify themselves as black".

At any rate, NotMeNotYou answered my question awhile ago, which is basically "No". So the On-Topic portion of this thread is over unless anyone wants to add on the it.

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I'm done.
Your beliefs are wrong.
Continuing to repeat them in any public forum is worse.
I won't have anything more to do with it, even on the dissenting side of things.

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Halite said:
I'm done.
Your beliefs are wrong.
Continuing to repeat them in any public forum is worse.
I won't have anything more to do with it, even on the dissenting side of things.

Good for you.

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ok this is scalating pretty quickly maybe it would be a nice idea to lock this thread

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RioluKid said:
ok this is scalating pretty quickly maybe it would be a nice idea to lock this thread

I'd be fine with that. I got my answer and got my point across off topic as well.

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Durandal said:
That's a pretty fantastically weird image.

Leave it to mother nature herself to create the most bizarre shit imaginable.

No one belived me in this site when I told them about that lol.

Ko-san said:
these are all guys.

Since it's Japan I think that's Crossplay, cosplay and crossdress at same time, won't ask about that lol.

However, I think you kind of over react to things with a penis, but again, that's what I think, but anyway, CoC has more characters, mostly females and herms, 2 gay dudes and a dragon that you can chose if becomes female, herm or male.

CoC bored me because the Bad support it has for people searching for manly males besides the Player. Also the game mechanics are well thought, but the obnoxious amount of grinding required and pseudo scaling make it hard to enjoy after I have become a centaur or a minotuar, heck even after you grind enough to become a dragon, It loses it's point quickly. Fucking orc is dissapointing sort of.

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NoctemWerewolf said:
No one belived me in this site when I told them about that lol.

Since it's Japan I think that's Crossplay, cosplay and crossdress at same time, won't ask about that lol.

However, I think you kind of over react to things with a penis, but again, that's what I think, but anyway, CoC has more characters, mostly females and herms, 2 gay dudes and a dragon that you can chose if becomes female, herm or male.

CoC bored me because the Bad support it has for people searching for manly males besides the Player. Also the game mechanics are well thought, but the obnoxious amount of grinding required and pseudo scaling make it hard to enjoy after I have become a centaur or a minotuar, heck even after you grind enough to become a dragon, It loses it's point quickly. Fucking orc is dissapointing sort of.

Thank you for getting back on topic. And the information you've given me is a bit better, but I'm not really looking for the sex elements, rather how has the adventure progressed? Are there really only two more quests, and are they that focused on corruption to where I would feel left out in them?

When playing, I tend to avoid any kind of body modification to myself and try to avoid getting raped by either side. I've actually completed what was there a couple of times while remaining completely abstinent.

Oh, and is that sword still available?

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Ko-san said:
Thank you for getting back on topic. And the information you've given me is a bit better, but I'm not really looking for the sex elements, rather how has the adventure progressed? Are there really only two more quests, and are they that focused on corruption to where I would feel left out in them?

When playing, I tend to avoid any kind of body modification to myself and try to avoid getting raped by either side. I've actually completed what was there a couple of times while remaining completely abstinent.

Oh, and is that sword still available?

The sword is still available, albeit a bit seldom because the lake got pretty full.
Otherwise must pure quests aren't in because the people never really wrote them, Fen likes his corruption and bodymodifications so naturally that is what he likes to write the most.

You could look around the various coc wikis a bit, generally the first paragraph on the npc pages will tell you if it has a pure route and/or forced transformations in it.

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